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hairveda and afroveda

KinkyKhamiKinkyKhami Posts: 62Registered Users
Afroveda and Hairveda...I heard about these products some years ago when I first went natural. I heard some rumors or scandals about their ingredients and prices. I was wondering if anyone still use these products.

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  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
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  • RizosMioRizosMio Posts: 141Registered Users
    Are these two brands related?

    I use Hairveda Whipped Cream Ends Hydration...I don't have issues with the ingredients, I think they're quite good.

    Edit: Actually...I won't be using the Hairveda Whipped Cream anymore. This question kinda peaked my interest and after some Googling and learning about the bases on that product, I have no interest.
  • AllieCat0817AllieCat0817 Posts: 301Registered Users
    Love Hairveda Cocasta Oil (major staple), and the two daily conditioners (24-7 Moist and the MoistPro). Also Amala Cream Rinse.

    I have some Afroveda Shea Amla and Curl Define that I got last year on a major sale which is the only time Ill buy it.


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  • Chicago KinksChicago Kinks Posts: 2,747Registered Users
    I purchased Afroveda Sweet Roots line last summer and I like it. I have not and probably wont reorder only because im impatient. I gave up on Hairveda...hair just doesn't like the line enough.

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  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
    I use the Afroveda Shea Alma at when I remoisturize my hair nightly. It's very moisturizing and makes my hair soft
  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    i stopped with afroveda after finding out some products had cones. never repurchased anything.
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
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  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
    hippychic wrote: »
    i stopped with afroveda after finding out some products had cones. never repurchased anything.

    I didn't know anything about it. I only use the butters which don't have cones in them
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
    Ok I just read the thread about the "Afroveda" gate thing. That was almost 3yrs ago., I'm not a mixtress so knowing about bases and stuff is foreign to me because Im not good at mixing stufff. As long as it doesn't have drying alcohols, cones, parabens, mineral oil. petrolatum, or any other harmful rogue ingredients, I don't have an issue with it. If it works for my hair then I'm good. It's kinda like naturals who do use those things, to each is their own. I like Afroveda so far. If that changes Ill let you all know.
  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
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  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
    what i think hippy meant is she wasnt disclosing CONES in her products(if she was using the bases listed). If you go by some of the bases that were listed, they looked very familiar to her products only hers didnt list cones.

    I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
  • hippychichippychic Posts: 4,673Registered Users
    what i think hippy meant is she wasnt disclosing CONES in her products(if she was using the bases listed). If you go by some of the bases that were listed, they looked very familiar to her products only hers didnt list cones.

    I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
    cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

    my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...
    LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity:?, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

    faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
    hippychic wrote: »
    what i think hippy meant is she wasnt disclosing CONES in her products(if she was using the bases listed). If you go by some of the bases that were listed, they looked very familiar to her products only hers didnt list cones.

    I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
    cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

    my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...

    That was 3yrs ago. Im sure there are plenty of natural hair consumers who have let that go, because her business is thriving, even in these economic times. In business these days most folks have no integrity but that doesn't stop goods from being sold. Que sera sera...
  • TheCurlyOneTheCurlyOne Posts: 52Registered Users
    hippychic wrote: »

    I saw that. I wasn't using the products that didn't list cones. It was her conditioners not the butters. Like I said that was almost 3yrs ago and ANY of these product makers could be doing it. Unless we are making our own shampoos and conditioners, we truly don't know what we are using.
    cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

    my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...

    That was 3yrs ago. Im sure there are plenty of natural hair consumers who have let that go, because her business is thriving, even in these economic times. In business these days most folks have no integrity but that doesn't stop goods from being sold. Que sera sera...
    I agree with this. Forums, blogs, youtubers etc do not make up even half of the natural hair community. So just because she may have faced a harsh backlash from the online natural hair blogosphere.....it doesn't mean that her other customers (which again are the majority anyway) care about the "issues". For a lot of people...they don't care...and it's not that serious. Even if suchinsuch is using bases....they rather by a finished product (bases or not) that works...rather than purchase a basic product from a wholesaler and add extra ingredients and mix it to work for them. To a non-mixtress the latter alternative may prove to be MORE expensive and time consuming for them than just buying the Afroveda. People will pay for convenience....and a lot of people don't care about that kind of stuff.

    I have not purchased from either product lines and most likely never will btw, so I can see this pretty objectively. :)
  • RizosMioRizosMio Posts: 141Registered Users
    I'm personally extremely miffed by the petrolatum in the Hairveda Whipped Cream Ends Hydration base...nowhere does it appear in Hairveda's actual ingredient list. I cleanse with clay and I don't believe it removes such ingredients, so now I'll have to clarify just to be certain. Geez... :/

    I have a bottle of 95% full Whipped Cream moisturizer if anyone wants...heh.
  • TheCurlyOneTheCurlyOne Posts: 52Registered Users
    RizosMio wrote: »
    I'm personally extremely miffed by the petrolatum in the Hairveda Whipped Cream Ends Hydration base...nowhere does it appear in Hairveda's actual ingredient list. I cleanse with clay and I don't believe it removes such ingredients, so now I'll have to clarify just to be certain. Geez... :/

    I have a bottle of 95% full Whipped Cream moisturizer if anyone wants...heh.

    There is a fine line between libel and opinion, and the poster that claimed Hairveda's Whipped Cream product had petrolatum in it was REALLY walking that fine line. It's dangerous because that's how misinformation, rumours, and problems get started. Later on if you read a little further you will see where several posters, including coilynapp who from what I've seen, is very well educated on ingredients addressed the posts regarding bases. In short, it is a stretch to say definitively that Hairvedas leave in cream has petrolatum in it.....a hard stretch. I'm not saying it doesn't Im just saying there is VERY VERY little evidence that that particular product comes from the base that contains petrolatum. So little in fact that I would go so far as to say that woman was irresponsible for making that comment. Not everything comes from a base...and that particular product could very well NOT come from that base or any base at all for that matter. Basically, she doesn't know whether it has petrolatum in it...that particular poster was claiming a lot of products were "bases". Later on it was revealed that what she was calling "bases" in a few situations were actually raw ingredients that were simply conditioner pellets.

    If you like a product, and it works for you....use it. You will go nuts and spend an ample amount of money following the "hair dos and donts"...and very few of them are factual. Mineral Oil and Petrolatum are removed just fine from the hair by something as simple as conditioner washing.....so yes your clay treatment will suffice. :)
  • RizosMioRizosMio Posts: 141Registered Users
    One possibility could be that these companies are copying the ingredients but mixing themselves, so they can leave things out...I'm just not sure I want to risk it.

    I'm actually not one of those people that runs from cones or mineral oil, I don't think they're bad ingredients at all. But they should be removed properly. The only reason why I'm avoiding them is because I wash/DC with clay.

    Thanks CurlyOne I'll go back and read things a bit more carefully and see from there...my hair has been perfectly fine and without buildup, if that can attest for anything.

    Edit: Heyyy I didn't know mineral oil/petrolatum were easily removed? I'll dig a little to be sure but thanks!
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Posts: 342Registered Users
    hippychic wrote: »
    cerendipity is absolutely right about what i thought.

    my hair hates hates hates silicones. i couldn't figure out why my hair hated her conditioners because they were supposed to be silicone free. i did like her butters but the mold and separation, along with long wait times and poor customer service issues stopped that too. all of afroveda just left a bad taste in my mouth. made me second guess the integrity of her business and products. if it works for you, fine - do you...

    That was 3yrs ago. Im sure there are plenty of natural hair consumers who have let that go, because her business is thriving, even in these economic times. In business these days most folks have no integrity but that doesn't stop goods from being sold. Que sera sera...
    I agree with this. Forums, blogs, youtubers etc do not make up even half of the natural hair community. So just because she may have faced a harsh backlash from the online natural hair blogosphere.....it doesn't mean that her other customers (which again are the majority anyway) care about the "issues". For a lot of people...they don't care...and it's not that serious. Even if suchinsuch is using bases....they rather by a finished product (bases or not) that works...rather than purchase a basic product from a wholesaler and add extra ingredients and mix it to work for them. To a non-mixtress the latter alternative may prove to be MORE expensive and time consuming for them than just buying the Afroveda. People will pay for convenience....and a lot of people don't care about that kind of stuff.

    I have not purchased from either product lines and most likely never will btw, so I can see this pretty objectively. :)

    Very good point and this is exactly how I feel. I buy for convenience because I'm in no way a mixtress. I know how cones and petrolatum feel in my hair and I don't have that feeling when I use Afroveda. It feels like a moisturizing butter that melts in my strands, making them shiny and soft. That's all that matters to me.
  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
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  • redlipstickredlipstick Posts: 213Registered Users
    ^^have I missed something?!? WHERE is the CoCasta oil on the website? I am on my last bottle!
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  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
    dont tellme that!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^
  • redlipstickredlipstick Posts: 213Registered Users
    I don't see it. I am getting nervous. I am going to see if I get a response from Hairveda.
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  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    I purchased the Afroveda Shikakai oil during black friday. I absolutely love it but it's very expensive so I would only purchase during a sale.

    This was my first time buying from this company. I was hesitant because of what happened but took a chance. I won't purchase any other items though because my hair hates silicones and I'm not paying money to perhaps have my hair dried out. I'm not saying I don't wish her well but she charges too much for me not to be completely comfortable with what I'm buying. Also keep in mind some people who have gone natural since three years ago may not have heard about the controversy. Actually, I have an aunt who posted on FB that she just discovered SM last week and look at how long that's been around.
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  • naturalyogininaturalyogini Posts: 430Registered Users
    adthomas wrote: »
    I purchased the Afroveda Shikakai oil during black friday. I absolutely love it but it's very expensive so I would only purchase during a sale.

    This was my first time buying from this company. I was hesitant because of what happened but took a chance. I won't purchase any other items though because my hair hates silicones and I'm not paying money to perhaps have my hair dried out. I'm not saying I don't wish her well but she charges too much for me not to be completely comfortable with what I'm buying. Also keep in mind some people who have gone natural since three years ago may not have heard about the controversy. Actually, I have an aunt who posted on FB that she just discovered SM last week and look at how long that's been around.
    FYI Komaza's hair oil is much better than Afroveda. At least you know that are real herbs in the Komaza oil. The last time I got oil from Afroveda, it looked just like plain jojoba oil. Also njoicreations on etsy has an ayurvedic oil.
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  • redlipstickredlipstick Posts: 213Registered Users
    I don't see it. I am getting nervous. I am going to see if I get a response from Hairveda.

    its ooo., should be back on the site tomorrow.


    my heart almost jumped out my chest for a few lol

    Thanks - I was beside myself.
    FYI Komaza's hair oil is much better than Afroveda. At least you know that are real herbs in the Komaza oil. The last time I got oil from Afroveda, it looked just like plain jojoba oil. Also njoicreations on etsy has an ayurvedic oil.

    Is njoicreations back from vacation? Do you know of any other way to purchase besides etsy? I liked the oil but can't quite figure out how to get it when in stock.
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  • naturalyogininaturalyogini Posts: 430Registered Users
    I don't see it. I am getting nervous. I am going to see if I get a response from Hairveda.

    its ooo., should be back on the site tomorrow.


    my heart almost jumped out my chest for a few lol

    Thanks - I was beside myself.
    FYI Komaza's hair oil is much better than Afroveda. At least you know that are real herbs in the Komaza oil. The last time I got oil from Afroveda, it looked just like plain jojoba oil. Also njoicreations on etsy has an ayurvedic oil.

    Is njoicreations back from vacation? Do you know of any other way to purchase besides etsy? I liked the oil but can't quite figure out how to get it when in stock.
    Not sure what you are asking but here is the Njoi link Specializing In All Natural Hair Care Products by NjoiCreationS
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    adthomas wrote: »
    I purchased the Afroveda Shikakai oil during black friday. I absolutely love it but it's very expensive so I would only purchase during a sale.

    This was my first time buying from this company. I was hesitant because of what happened but took a chance. I won't purchase any other items though because my hair hates silicones and I'm not paying money to perhaps have my hair dried out. I'm not saying I don't wish her well but she charges too much for me not to be completely comfortable with what I'm buying. Also keep in mind some people who have gone natural since three years ago may not have heard about the controversy. Actually, I have an aunt who posted on FB that she just discovered SM last week and look at how long that's been around.
    FYI Komaza's hair oil is much better than Afroveda. At least you know that are real herbs in the Komaza oil. The last time I got oil from Afroveda, it looked just like plain jojoba oil. Also njoicreations on etsy has an ayurvedic oil.

    Thanks for the heads up. I'm almost out although I've been using this very sparingly because of the price. One time my mom came to visit and I could smell it. I look and she had slathered it all over her hair. I had to hold it together. That taught me when company comes I need to hide my good stuff.
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