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Pope Benedict to Resign

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First time in over 600 years.

Pope Benedict to resign - The Globe and Mail
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    It certainly makes more sense than carrying on when feeble.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Whoa dude...

    I wonder if they're looking at nonEuropean candidates to replace him.
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  • curlylauracurlylaura Posts: 8,352Registered Users
    They can resign? I didn't know that.
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  • CurlyCanadianCurlyCanadian Posts: 10,780Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    curlylaura wrote: »
    They can resign? I didn't know that.

    I didn't, either. I thought it was one of those lifer roles.
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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    its more like a supreme court justice role. they cant be fired, but she resign.

    my grandma is going to be happy, she never liked that man.
  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

    Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.
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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    he always said he wouldnt be pope long. i think he knew soem people really disliked him adn didnt think he was a good pick.

    but his excused because he's getting old and health is declining is suspicious. dude before him looked like they had a stick up his back to keep him from falling over. ever see him wave? like a puppet on strings.
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    Considering he was a member of the Hitler youth, he shouldn't have been there to begin with.
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  • yossarianyossarian Posts: 967Registered Users
    legends wrote: »
    Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

    Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.

    I suspect the HBO documentary Mea Maxima Culpa played a role. It really laid bare the institutional corruption that allowed the abuse to continue. Powerful & infuriating.

    Alex Gibney also produced Smartest Guys in the Room (about Enron) and Taxi to the Dark Side (about the use of torture in the so-called "war on terror) which were both excellent.

    thelio, I'm with your grandmother. I was so disappointed with the selection of Ratzinger, especially after John Paul II. I loved that man, and I'm not even Catholic!

    ETA: (also to thelio) yeah, it was painful to see JPII repeatedly trotted out long after his mental and physical condition had deteriorated badly. I really thought he would be relieved of his duties, as an act of mercy.

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  • LadyV69LadyV69 Posts: 3,397Registered Users
    legends wrote: »
    Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

    Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.

    That's exactly what I was thinking. They usually serve until their last breath and leave in a pine box. The resignation can' t bode well at all.


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  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    Considering he was a member of the hitler youth, I can't say I'm sad to see him go. It's about time.

    I didn't know he was part of this, but I don't think that necessarily should be held against him. If that is the case, there are lots of white Americans who went along with segregation and unjust laws because "that is just what people did back then." my point is that some of us have done stupid things or thought them and then grew up and realized how stupid we really were. Obviously I'm not talking about adults who willingly tortured someone else because they thought they were better than that person and not having to do time for the crime.
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  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    I understand that. But for this type of position, there really needs to be a higher standard. This isn't your everyday type of job. He represents an entire religion here.
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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    he was a member of the nazi youth, but in his defense he had to, it was the law. at that time all youths had to join or risk beign labled a traitor and risk death along with his family. He hated it and was not a nazi supporter. he had a relative who was sent to the camps and killed because he was mentally hadicapped or something.
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    He had to. Yes. But he didn't have to be the pope
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  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    All I'm saying is that I don't agree with him becoming the pope. Whether or not other people feel that way too is entirely their choice. I'm not forcing my views on anyone, just stating my opinion
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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    would he had been allowed to reject the position when offered. when he was elected he really didnt seem enthusiastic about the job.
  • CanItBeChristineCanItBeChristine Posts: 6,343Registered Users
    thelio wrote: »
    he was a member of the nazi youth, but in his defense he had to, it was the law. at that time all youths had to join or risk beign labled a traitor and risk death along with his family. He hated it and was not a nazi supporter. he had a relative who was sent to the camps and killed because he was mentally hadicapped or something.

    Yes, his cousin was killed in the euthanasia program to test-out their techniques. He had Down's Syndrome. So sick.

    I remember when he became Pope...he said that he really didn't want to be Pope, and prayed like crazy to not be elected. Honestly, 7 years later, I clearly remember that and remember thinking the church was in trouble if this was the Pope!
  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    thelio wrote: »
    he was a member of the nazi youth, but in his defense he had to, it was the law. at that time all youths had to join or risk beign labled a traitor and risk death along with his family. He hated it and was not a nazi supporter. he had a relative who was sent to the camps and killed because he was mentally hadicapped or something.

    Yes, his cousin was killed in the euthanasia program to test-out their techniques. He had Down's Syndrome. So sick.

    I remember when he became Pope...he said that he really didn't want to be Pope, and prayed like crazy to not be elected. Honestly, 7 years later, I clearly remember that and remember thinking the church was in trouble if this was the Pope!

    I remember he said he would be pope for like five years or something. I actually feel bad for him. He didn't want the job. He probably knew people didn't want him for the job. At least he got a few years left to go do whatever he has planned.
  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    So why did they choose him then...?
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  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    So why did they choose him then...?
    This is my question.
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  • naturaldollnaturaldoll Posts: 567Registered Users
    its the catholic church, they dont give a flying frack what their followers actually want. he wouldnt have been able to stop the election if he had gotten on his knees and cried/begged. the cardinals felt "moved by god" to vote for him.

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  • yossarianyossarian Posts: 967Registered Users
    So why did they choose him then...?

    As I recall, there were several worthy candidates. The three that were considered most likely were from Colombia, Nigeria, and China, respectively. Each was seen as strategically attractive, since they would expand the Catholic Church's appeal to non-European peoples, and were regarded as relatively liberal in the same vein as John Paul II.

    Joseph Ratzinger, OTOH, was regarded as a dark horse, preferred by the traditionalists within the Church that wanted desperately to stem the bleeding (i.e., stop the loss of parishioners) in Western Europe, which was becoming increasingly secular. The reasoning was that people would feel more favorably toward the faith if "one of their own" was the Pope. The same faction also wanted a return to a strict interpretation of Church doctrine, especially on social issues (abortion; homosexuality) and interfaith relations.

    And that's how you get Benedict XVI.
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  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    He was JPII's right hand man (if anyone thought JP was so great before, that should tell you all right there) and him becoming pope after JP's death was pretty much a done deal long before it happened. He didn't want to be pope, my ass.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    legends wrote: »
    Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

    Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.
    The first thing I thought of was scandal. The second was Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia. I'm leaning toward dementia.
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  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    maybe he wanted to shake shh up. Stir the pot, get everyone saying his name, he a rebel, maybe it was a plan to get money so he can die on an island in paradise. Got everyone talking about him, maybe he's waiting on prices for interviews so he can use that money to peace out.


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  • mad scientistmad scientist Posts: 3,530Registered Users
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    legends wrote: »
    Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

    Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.
    The first thing I thought of was scandal. The second was Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia. I'm leaning toward dementia.

    Wasn't JPII quite far gone dementia-wise by the time he passed? That does not appear to be a reason for leaving this job.
  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    legends wrote: »
    Hmmm, I smell a soon-to-break scandal. I can't think of any other reason for this.

    Considering how "so what?" the Vatican has been over the sex abuse scandals, whatever's coming must be HUGE.
    The first thing I thought of was scandal. The second was Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia. I'm leaning toward dementia.

    Wasn't JPII quite far gone dementia-wise by the time he passed? That does not appear to be a reason for leaving this job.
    I'm not sure. I know he had parkinson's.

    They've been saying since I posted earlier that it really might be the HBO documentary that pushed him into retirement. That's just speculation though.
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  • sKorpio1190sKorpio1190 Posts: 1,862Registered Users
    yossarian wrote: »
    So why did they choose him then...?

    As I recall, there were several worthy candidates. The three that were considered most likely were from Colombia, Nigeria, and China, respectively. Each was seen as strategically attractive, since they would expand the Catholic Church's appeal to non-European peoples, and were regarded as relatively liberal in the same vein as John Paul II.

    Joseph Ratzinger, OTOH, was regarded as a dark horse, preferred by the traditionalists within the Church that wanted desperately to stem the bleeding (i.e., stop the loss of parishioners) in Western Europe, which was becoming increasingly secular. The reasoning was that people would feel more favorably toward the faith if "one of their own" was the Pope. The same faction also wanted a return to a strict interpretation of Church doctrine, especially on social issues (abortion; homosexuality) and interfaith relations.

    And that's how you get Benedict XVI.

    Lol well we see how that turned out! Ha!
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Who the heck wants to work when they're 85 yrs old??

  • fraufrau Posts: 6,130Registered Users
    maybe we'll finally get a pope of color.
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