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Back again after 4 plus years of CG.

Hi everyone! I've been away but have kept what I learned here busy. Just updating my progress, was pretty active here in 2008.

Here is how my hair was before CG around 2006.
curlyhair1.jpg

After going CG in 2008:
curlyhair2.jpg

And now after growing it out - 5 years later:
DSCN3447.jpg

Thank YOU Naturally Curly dot com!

I've updated my folki. I live in Italy so don't ask about the North American products I use. They (naturally curly dot com) don't ship to Italy (unfortunately!) so I am not using them. It's all in the routine IMO and products that are similar, no-shampooing and products without silicones - as well as homemade or natural concoctions.The CG method has totally changed my life. I love curls and am so glad I am a CG and don't have to deal with straight hair.

Enjoy!

Zigazaga
-3A?
-Fine, ii (almost iii) thickness
-salon pintura and natural sun-made highlights combo
-CG since October 2007, rare occasional low poo.
-Growing it out
click here for fotki pics
-pw: ziggy

Comments

  • curry curlscurry curls Posts: 964Registered Users Curl Novice
    I remember you. Wow, how beautiful! What are your growing secrets? :)
    Started CG July 8, 2008 :)


    3[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Co-wash: Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle or Trader Joe's Nourish Spa
    Rinse out: Ion Effective Care Treatment
    Leave-in/Styling: Alba Botanica leave in with Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner :love2: on top
  • christina.grchristina.gr Posts: 30Registered Users
    Ditto curry curls!! Dish..what is the routine, what do you looks for in products...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Back on the CG wagon!:toothy2:
    Hair Type: 2c/3a winter, low porosity, protein sensitive
    (Cleanse w/Distilled water only)
    Shampoo: Baking soda & brown sugar
    Condish: Sauve Naturals green apple or aloe waterlily
    Rinse: ACV
    LI: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Styler: homemade flaxseed gel, topped w/KC Spiral Spritz
    DT: veg. glycerin mixed w/conditioner
    "Life's a garden. Dig it." :toothy4:
  • Laura LeeLaura Lee Posts: 1,828Registered Users
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,675Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I remember those curls! Still lovely.
    3b in South Australia.
  • HoneycurlsHoneycurls Posts: 1,889Registered Users
    Starmie wrote: »
    I remember those curls! Still lovely.

    This. Wow. Probably the most beautiful hair on the site, IMO.

    ZZ, I agree that it's mostly in the routine. I avoid oils like the plague and swear by plopping and pixiecurling.

    Care to share your current styling regimen?
    OK, I admit it.....I'm an alias! I wasn't born with the name Honeycurls!
    :lurk: Dood, get over it; there's no time limit on lurking.

    I so busy runnin' allllllll over the place and ain't nobody chasin' me! :confused5::laughing5::jocolor:
  • battahbattah Posts: 271Registered Users
    Gorgeous! I remember your photos from the before & after CG thread, your hair is just beautiful.
    Trying to figure out porosity - medium to low, I think? Medium texture, rapidly greying, and free of dye/relaxers since 2010. Recently chopped from hip length to a jaw-length stacked bob:)

    Claim to fame - Inventor of plopping when it was called "the towel trick"!!

    Cleanser: Deva Low Poo
    Rinse-out/LI: Deva OneC, Curl Keeper
    Styler: Krystal Ecostyler
  • testimony777testimony777 Posts: 237Registered Users
    Welcome back:icon_smile: I remember you; your curls are gorgeous!
    Hair Stats (CG since 3/31/12)
    Type: 3c/b; Density: M; Texture: F-M; Porosity: L-N

    Products
    Cleanser: DevaCurl Decadence No Poo
    Conditioner: DevaCurl Original One Condition
    Leave-in: DevaCurl B'Leave-in
    Stylers: DevaCurl Volumizing Frizz Free Foam, DevaCurl Beautiful Mess, DevaCurl Flexible Hold Hairspray
    Refresher: DevaCurl No Comb Detangling Spray
    Finisher: DevaCurl Shine Spray
  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    Welcome back! Your curls are definitely remembered around here. In the Before/After thread you get a lot of compliments IIRC.

    Great to see you around!

    Gorgeous curls!
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    Mix of 3s, thick, coarse, medium porosity

    Current hair styling technique: rake with a scrunch at the end. (works with my coarse hair)

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlymix%2F" class="Popup
    pw: curls

    Known HGs: KCCC, homemade fsg, honey
  • creativelicensecreativelicense Posts: 422Registered Users
    Ha, looking at the background in the first picture I thought "that looks like Italy." Guess I was right. Great job on the hair, it's beautiful!

    Typing on a giant phone - there will be funky grammar and typos.
    Curl Style: 3b/3c
    Texture: Fine
    Porosity: Normal

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut
    RO: GVP CB
    Styling: As I Am Leave In, Jessicurl Rockin' Ringlets & Confident Coils, DevaCurl Set Me Up, Curl Keeper
    Gel: Ecostyler Olive Oil, BioSilk RHG
  • CurlyJulie81CurlyJulie81 Posts: 110Registered Users
    So, so beautiful. The curls, the color, the scenery... everything. I'm happy for you!
    3a/b fine, high porosity, medium density. Mod- CG

    Sulfate-free Shampoo: SheaMoisture Curl and Shine shampoo with Epsom salts.
    Co-wash: TRESemme Naturals,
    Leave in: TN Radiant volume, KCKT, YTC pampering conditioner
    Summer styler: LA Looks Spiked Gel(summer only)
    Seal: Argan Oil/Macademia Oil
    Winter styler: KCCC, AIF, Beyond the Zone Noodlehead curling creme(not CG)
    DT: GVPCB, coconut oil
    PT: GVP Hair Reconstructor
    osWchwy.jpg?1Embracing my curls.:love7:
  • MaxMax Posts: 125Registered Users
    Beautiful!
  • justdoingmejustdoingme Posts: 136Registered Users
    would you mind briefly writing out what you do to your hair if it doesnt take too long? like your styling routine, overnight, etc (only v. briefly of course) sorry if its too much to ask, its just your hair is beautiful!
    Curl pattern: Loose waved underlayer, a mixture of 2b, 2c, 3a
    Porosity: Low
    Density: Thick
    Length: When stretched approx 5cm above belly button
    Low poo: Tresemme Naturals
    Conditioner: Herbal Essences Hello Hydration
    Styler: Olive Oil Eco Styler
    Deep conditioner: Olive oil

    :snorting:
  • Curly SaraCurly Sara Posts: 183Registered Users
    ZigaZaga wrote: »
    Hi everyone! I've been away but have kept what I learned here busy. Just updating my progress, was pretty active here in 2008.

    Here is how my hair was before CG around 2006.
    curlyhair1.jpg

    After going CG in 2008:
    curlyhair2.jpg

    And now after growing it out - 5 years later:
    DSCN3447.jpg

    Thank YOU Naturally Curly dot com!

    I've updated my folki. I live in Italy so don't ask about the North American products I use. They (naturally curly dot com) don't ship to Italy (unfortunately!) so I am not using them. It's all in the routine IMO and products that are similar, no-shampooing and products without silicones - as well as homemade or natural concoctions.The CG method has totally changed my life. I love curls and am so glad I am a CG and don't have to deal with straight hair.

    Enjoy!

    Zigazaga

    Woow...what a transformation.
    Beautiful naturally curly hair!!! I have the same experience myself. I have 3c hair and have been following the cg-method for a year now with low-poing (sulfat- and silicone free) once or twice a month. I definetly see the results in form of more moisturized and defined clumped curls. My hair is actually pretty and i usually get a lot of hair-compliments all the time :-)
    Hair type/properties:
    3c hair, high porosity, mediumdensity, low elasticity, fine hair.

    Curly hair routine/regime:
    Combine the modified cg-method (low poo) and a modified tightly curly method.
    -Condition and leave in: Aubrey Organics, Giovanni Barzilian keratin and argan oil
    -Sealer: shea butter, Argan, olive and coconutoil
    -Gel: homemade flaxseed gel, Kinky curly custard, Queen Helene Curl royal shaping creme.
  • ZigaZagaZigaZaga Posts: 473Registered Users
    Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

    I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!
    -3A?
    -Fine, ii (almost iii) thickness
    -salon pintura and natural sun-made highlights combo
    -CG since October 2007, rare occasional low poo.
    -Growing it out
    click here for fotki pics
    -pw: ziggy
  • JusduitJusduit Posts: 578Registered Users
    ZigaZaga wrote: »
    Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

    I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!

    WOW, JUST WOW!!! While I think the current length is absolutely gorgeous, I personally prefer the length in the second picture. My reasons are: easier to detangle (less time spent in the shower), requires less product, dries faster and more volume due to less weight.

    Can't wait to hear what your routine is!
    3a (protein sensitive)
    Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity

    Cleansers: Mop-C Hydrating Shampoo, JCGLS
    Conditioners: CJCR, TJTTT
    Leave-in: CJCR, CK Satin Roots
    Stylers: UFDCM, CJPP
    Standby items:GVP K-Pak
  • DsotomayorDsotomayor Posts: 173Registered Users
    Jusduit wrote: »
    ZigaZaga wrote: »
    Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

    I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!

    WOW, JUST WOW!!! While I think the current length is absolutely gorgeous, I personally prefer the length in the second picture. My reasons are: easier to detangle (less time spent in the shower), requires less product, dries faster and more volume due to less weight.

    Can't wait to hear what your routine is!
    Agreed!^^ your hair is gorgeous and I like the length in the second pic the most also for the same reason.
  • JusduitJusduit Posts: 578Registered Users
    Dsotomayor wrote: »
    Jusduit wrote: »
    ZigaZaga wrote: »
    Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

    I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!

    WOW, JUST WOW!!! While I think the current length is absolutely gorgeous, I personally prefer the length in the second picture. My reasons are: easier to detangle (less time spent in the shower), requires less product, dries faster and more volume due to less weight.

    Can't wait to hear what your routine is!
    Agreed!^^ your hair is gorgeous and I like the length in the second pic the most also for the same reason.

    Plus, I meant to also say (as well as the other reasons mentioned), your hair in the second pic is every bit as pretty as your current length. So I'd say go with whichever length you're most comfortable with. :)
    3a (protein sensitive)
    Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity

    Cleansers: Mop-C Hydrating Shampoo, JCGLS
    Conditioners: CJCR, TJTTT
    Leave-in: CJCR, CK Satin Roots
    Stylers: UFDCM, CJPP
    Standby items:GVP K-Pak
  • ZigaZagaZigaZaga Posts: 473Registered Users
    I'm back. Sorry for the wait.

    I get so many people saying to me "Don't you dare ever cut your hair". So I am still up on the chop off idea but it certainly has become a lot of work time-wise. But I do like some of the benefits too. Okay here is some of what I do.

    After all the trial and error in the beginning I seem to have found the right products and technique for my hair. I keep about 8 jars and bottles of various conditioners (plus flax seed oil spray) in my shower. I rotate products all the time never using the same ones for long. I instinctively know when my hair needs protein or not, oil or not, something light or something heavy, just by how it feels when wet.

    My hair had way too much protein in the beginning (very stiff dry hair) so I cut out the protein completely for about 6-8 months or more....until I found out I did need protein (limp hair) but not all the time. My hair loves silk protein, less likes wheat protein, doesn't mind keratin. I also did a lot of home made DT's, way less now.

    Cleansing routine:

    No silicones for me. I used to do my hair twice a week, but now with this length I end up waiting a bit longer, I do get at least three great hair days and a couple of so-so hair days each time. With the length I can easily do various up-dos when it is less than perfect.

    I co-wash mostly with a very basic low-cost conditioner (it has coconut oil in it, kinda like Suave)- takes about a half a bottle but it only costs 1 Euro a bottle, but I have others I use that are a bit more expensive in my rotation and sometimes I combine them. Once in a while, like twice a year I do shampoo my hair with Neutrogina shampoo for mineral build-up since my water is so hard. I ALWAYS mix it in about a cup of water first, this is so it does not touch my hair in an undiluted form, for more even distribution plus I am able to use less and get the same results. I do oil the ends first, but often the reason I use shampoo is because my hair is so oiled and gucked-up in the first place (like at the seaside during the summer). I tried the so called more gentle shampoos containing coco betaine etc, but my hair hated it - it felt like fiber glass! I don't use shampoo bars because of my hard water....unless I want dull hair, which I don't!

    I then wide tooth comb my hair with the co-wash conditioner under running water which helps the hair slide down, sometimes using a goody ouchless brush that does not snag my hair - it slides off the knots if they are big and does not snap hair and sometimes I have to add more conditioner on the way. By the time I am done detangling my hair is thoroughly rinsed out. I then use a more consistent conditioner, sometimes with protein, sometimes an acid balance mask with protein, sometimes something heavier that has oil in it but no protein. I leave that on while I do other things that need doing. :-) Then rinse out well.

    Sometimes I'll add a bit of light conditioner as a leave in on the canopy, sometimes I finish with an AC rinse (haven't done that lately - think I will try it again) and sometimes I put a few drops of flax seed oil (which my hair LOVES) in my palms, and rub the ends with it. One final rinse and I am ready to get out of the shower sopping dripping wet. No towel drying or blotting for me.

    Sleeping and oils:

    I use satin pillow cases and do a loose pineapple on the top of my head, knot the length around in a very loose bun and clip it in place with a claw clip. In the beginning I would often do a big oiling the day before cleansing. I haven't been doing that anymore. My hair likes most oils, but loves shea butter, flax seed oil and when I finally tried olive oil (it's a food for me in my mind ;-)) it love it. Coconut oil is fine, jojoba is totally out and not good. I can tell if my hair likes one oil or the other if it feels softened, if it feels stiff or comes out oily looking then it does not like it IMO. But I rotate oils in any case - once again! And mostly use them in the Summer or seaside vacations.

    Next time I will write about trims, summer and the pool/sea and the styling routine - and whatever else you might inquire about. :-)


    Hope this helps someone. And have a lovely day!
    -3A?
    -Fine, ii (almost iii) thickness
    -salon pintura and natural sun-made highlights combo
    -CG since October 2007, rare occasional low poo.
    -Growing it out
    click here for fotki pics
    -pw: ziggy
  • NvmbrCurlssNvmbrCurlss Posts: 732Registered Users
    I LOVE that you know your hair like an old childhood friend :)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
    LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


    "To much is given, much is expected"
  • ZigaZagaZigaZaga Posts: 473Registered Users
    But I guess true, it's gotten to that. Not at first though!

    I really wanted hair that corkskrewed but alas I have these noodles instead! :mrgreen: No use fighting them at the end of the day. When my hair was shorter I tried the twist skip method that did force them into dreg-like coils, that was kinda nice, but then I find it too much work especially at the length I have now.
    -3A?
    -Fine, ii (almost iii) thickness
    -salon pintura and natural sun-made highlights combo
    -CG since October 2007, rare occasional low poo.
    -Growing it out
    click here for fotki pics
    -pw: ziggy
  • jsuzkelleyjsuzkelley Posts: 610Registered Users
    Lol! Zigazaga - I love you're "noodles" - I think they're gorgeous!
    2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
    fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
    My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    CG since 12/29/2011 :laughing6:
  • BimbijaNeBimbijaNe Posts: 18Registered Users
    I'm so excited to see your thread. I've just moved to Italy from australia and need help with everything hair! I'm medium length 3b. I need advice on which products to use here and where to get a cut!! Do you use a styler? Or just conditioner? I'm still using some products I brought with me and have tried a few here but no really good finds yet. Please help me, I'd be so grateful!
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hi ZZ, just wanted to say welcome back and I remember you. Gorgeous hair!
    2/c Coarse hair med. density.
    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower: