I have scalp psoriasis and curly hair !help!

LizbethannLizbethann Posts: 1Registered Users
Hi! I’m new to the site and because I know some of you are experts, I’m gonna make some questions. I’m a type 2C girl. My problem is that I have scalp psoriasis and usually is on the crown of my head. It is very embarrassing usually because of the itching and the flakes caught up in the curls. I use dandruff shampoo (Neutrogena T, Selsum Blue, Suave). They sometimes kind of work, but they make my hair dull and curls disappear!. I have tried to do the conditioner only routine, but the psoriasis doesn’t go away. I love Devachan products (I went to their NYC hair salon and fell in love with my cut. I live in Puerto Rico), but they then to make my flakes to appear faster. Because of this situation I wash my hair with every other day with L’oreal no sulfur shampoo and conditioner. This helps a little. I also use Ouiad’s gel on the tips of my hair and morrocan oil styling cream at the roots. This also seems to help a little. I ask for your knowledge and recommendations. Thanks! :farao:

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  • Aqua_LilyAqua_Lily Posts: 557Registered Users
    Welcome Lizbethan!

    I have heard more than once that nettle herbal infusion works as a charm against dandruff. It's also conditioning and very healthy and mild to the hair.

    how to: buy some nettle tea bags or dried nettle leafs (or find them in a forest haha), and make tea with the nettle. Let it cool down to nice showering temperature and rinse your hair with it. No need to rinse it out; you can leave it in.

    There's lots of useful information on this website. I'm sure you'll find more advice. Good luck!
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  • ashlenreedyashlenreedy Posts: 3Registered Users
    Lizbethann wrote: »
    Hi! I’m new to the site and because I know some of you are experts, I’m gonna make some questions. I’m a type 2C girl. My problem is that I have scalp psoriasis and usually is on the crown of my head. It is very embarrassing usually because of the itching and the flakes caught up in the curls. I use dandruff shampoo (Neutrogena T, Selsum Blue, Suave). They sometimes kind of work, but they make my hair dull and curls disappear!. I have tried to do the conditioner only routine, but the psoriasis doesn’t go away. I love Devachan products (I went to their NYC hair salon and fell in love with my cut. I live in Puerto Rico), but they then to make my flakes to appear faster. Because of this situation I wash my hair with every other day with L’oreal no sulfur shampoo and conditioner. This helps a little. I also use Ouiad’s gel on the tips of my hair and morrocan oil styling cream at the roots. This also seems to help a little. I ask for your knowledge and recommendations. Thanks! :farao:
    Try Giovanni Tripple tea tree shampoo. It's sulfate free. Tea tree oil helps with scalp problems like yours and mine. It doesn't dry your hair out. Once I started using it, I used it everyday and the dandruff almost went away. It comes back worse if I don't wash it everyday. Since it's sulfate free and the bottle is only 8 oz I believe, it only last a month for me. Try it out and only shampoos that have tea tree oil in it. Also it has peppermint in. It gives you that tingly feeling and I think it helps with hair growth since it stimulates the scalp. Anyways, hopefully this helps, good luck :)
  • hmkennyhmkenny Curl Connoisseur Posts: 1,467Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I have scalp psoriasis too and have been getting some relief using shampoo bars. Right now I am using Chagrin Valley Rosemary Mint. Co-wash used to work well for me, but as you probably know, with psoriasis what works for a long time can suddenly cease working for you. Have you read Dr. Pagano's Healing Psoriasis? It has a whole regimen for healing psoriasis as well as his recommendations for remedies to relieve itching & scaling. You can probably find it at you library. Oh, and Dr. Pagano recommens NO styling products. I fear he is right. A lot of products offend my scalp now, causing flare ups. I do okay with some products as long as I don't let them build up. Nothing too heavy.
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  • CherripowCherripow Posts: 2Registered Users
    Hi there,
    I too have psoriasis on my scalp and can I say it absolutely SUCKS to have both psoriasis and curls.
    When my psoriasis flares up (if I'm stressed, sick or use too many products) I switch my normal shampoo and conditioner to a really gentle fragrance free alternative. I use Al'chemy Unscented Very Gentle Shampoo & Conditioner which I get from a store called Priceline (which is in Australia where I live) however I'm sure you could find a similar alternative closer to home. Make sure you rinse any conditioner you use out of your hair REALLY WELL!! And I know you mentioned using L'Oreal products and Neutrogena T gel but I found they actually made my psoriasis worse. You need a product that leaves no residue in your hair and more importantly on your scalp. Natural alternatives are generally best.
    If you're looking for something more medicated try a coal tar based solution from your pharmacy (this is a better alternative to Neutrogena T). They smell terrible but actually work! These products won't do anything for your hair condition but once you get the psoriasis under control then you can experiment with styling products and have less of a reaction to them!
    I've visited a naturopath that specialises in psoriasis and they put me on a low alkaline diet - high green veggies, low acidic foods (tomato, citrus etc), low white starches (switch potato for kumara and white rice for brown rice) and lots of water (at least 2 litres a day). This made the biggest difference to how I felt. Once I got my psoriasis under control then I started to try a variety of products to see how they affected my scalp. The best ones I've found are the Aveda Be Curly range. I love the be curly curl enhancer and their dry remedy treatment masque is amazing! However, you need to make sure you don't apply any products to your scalp directly!!
    Anyways, I hope this helps a little. Try googling low alkaline diet as I can tell you this really works and it was recommended to me by someone who has psoriasis over their entire body and except for the occasional flare up it's completely controlled. Good luck xx
  • pinkmouse09pinkmouse09 Posts: 107Registered Users
    Shea Moisture African Black Soap line is good for this. I use the Purification Masque and love it
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  • lovebonitalovebonita Posts: 134Registered Users
    Psoriasis and dandruff are two VERY different things unfortunately. I have scalp psoriasis that was not only on my crown, it was over my entire head and was creeping from my hairline to my face! I would use sulfate shampoos to get rid of the extra large flakes BUT it would dry my scalp out and eventually exacerbate the problem!

    Since going CG and using henna, my scalp has gotten 10x better. I also use things that are especially helpful to the scalp (olive, coconut and tea tree oil). Here's my routine:

    I cowash with Tresseme Naturals. It has no silicones and doesn't build up. I use the undiluted conditioner on the length of my hair. In a dye applicator bottle I mixed conditioner, water, and tea tree oil and I apply that directly to my scalp.

    I DT with a combination of Shea Moisture Deep Treatment Masque and coconut oil. Then I moisturize my hair using the LOC method with Kinky Curly Knot Today, EVOO and 100% Pure Unrefined African Shea butter.

    I really hope this helps!
  • Tiera.JohnsoTiera.Johnso Posts: 2Registered Users
    I have suffered from psoriasis for years, and while I tried prescription drugs, and topical ointments, I would still experience flair ups of irritation from time to time. It wasn’t until I started my natural hair journey that I began to see some relief. I just wrote an article on my blog Hapnaturally.com that includes some tips, and natural home remedies, that really helped me when dealing with psoriasis and how switching to a natural hair regimen really helped me relieve the symptoms
  • ReservechicReservechic Posts: 798Registered Users
    Lizbethann wrote: »
    Hi! I’m new to the site and because I know some of you are experts, I’m gonna make some questions. I’m a type 2C girl. My problem is that I have scalp psoriasis and usually is on the crown of my head. It is very embarrassing usually because of the itching and the flakes caught up in the curls. I use dandruff shampoo (Neutrogena T, Selsum Blue, Suave). They sometimes kind of work, but they make my hair dull and curls disappear! I have tried to do the conditioner only routine, but the psoriasis doesn’t go away. I love Devachan products (I went to their NYC hair salon and fell in love with my cut. I live in Puerto Rico), but they then to make my flakes to appear faster. Because of this situation I wash my hair with every other day with L’oreal no sulfur shampoo and conditioner. This helps a little. I also use Ouiad’s gel on the tips of my hair and morrocan oil styling cream at the roots. This also seems to help a little. I ask for your knowledge and recommendations. Thanks! :farao:

    Welcome!

    Are you currently seeing a doctor or dermatologist for your scalp psoriasis? I have never been diagnosed with psoriasis, but i have been diagnosed by a dermatologist as having seborrheic dermatitis many years back, and last month i was disgnosed with having chronic scalp eczema after having suffered with such for years, and trying a whole bunch of stuff, that didn't provide the best solution for me at all. When you have psorasis, you have to be very careful about what products you use that come in contact with the skin on your scalp, as they may contain an ingredient or ingredients that can be an irritant to the skin on your scalp. However, once you start learning what things ingredients wise are aggravators to your scalp, then that will allow for you to better understsnd, what ingredients you should avoiding having come in contact with your scalp.

    If you currently have health insurance, my biggest recommendation, would be to go to see either a General Practitioner, so that he can work with you, in regards to what he or she feels is best for you to use to cleanse your hair with. You can tell the doctor or dermstologist about the shampoos that you have tried that weren't effective for you, and then he should be able to provide you with another cleanser that he think may work much better for you (whether it is something from the drugstores or is a prescription shampoo instead). One of the biggest triggers that i have read about all over the Internet, that can cause alot of irriration to ones scalp are synthetic fragrances. Alot of people will avoid use of products that have parabens (yet there is not 100% definitive proof begind such, and the FDA has continued to rule the usage of parabens safe for use in products, but others will not look at the other ingredients in their products that come come with a long range of side effects associated with the. Within so many sites that i have gone to, chemical fragrance in a product is widely listed as being something that should be avoided, due to the very wide range of health issues to ones body that it has the ability to cause. The FDA of course hasn't banned the usage if chemical fragrances in products, however, that still doesn't mean that it's safe. Which is why, I would highly recommend starting to phase out the usage of hair styling aids that contain synthetic fragrances to them and start incorporating more fragrance free styling aids into your regimen for sure. Also, please know that even though a product may be natural, it doesn't guarantee that no ingredient or ingredients within a natural based product, may not aggravate your scalp. And, please know that there are certain dyes in products, that when they come in contact with your scalp can surely lead to irritation too.

    Proriasis, seborrheic dermatitis, and eczema are chronic conditions that cannot be cured, but that can be properly managed, with the right course of treatment. Your psoriasis is something that needs to be medically monitored. Which is why, i wholeheartedly recommend that you should work with either a General Practitioner of dermatologist, for proper management of such. My father has been suffering with eczema, ever since i have known him, and the eczema is mainly on his legs. My father has been using prescribed creams from General Practitioners to aid with helping to manage his eczema. To wash his body with, he uses Fragrance Free Dove Soap, as he was using very drying, heavily fragranced soaps, but switched over to Fragrance Free Dove Soap instead which is much better for his skin, plus, i happen to use it too, when it comes to washing with, and we both use fragrance free lotions on our bodies only.

    I do not apply any oil or oils or serums directly onto my scalp, or any other products sold specifically, for use on the scalp, that is sold with drugstores, beauty supply stores, online, etc.. As, I have learned that my scalp doesn't need to be overloaded with such stuff. Such just eithef futher aggravates my eczema, or just leaves my scalp very oily and doesn't provide the relief that i truly need. It was after having gone through so many different routes in an effort to cure, my scalp, buying product after product and dealing with none of such giving me the solution that i truly needed, i finally got up the nerve to discuss what had been going on with my scalp with my dermatologist, that i had suffered with for far too long, when i should have sought out medical treatment for such, a very long time ago. Now, i do see the dermatologist on a monthly basis, due to my also suffering with adult acne prone skin, but now my dermatologist is also treating me for my scalp eczema too, and working with me to manage it, and i am finally starting to get a bit of relief, thank God.

    I do use a prescription shampoo along with prescribed topicals to be applied to my scalp, and this is apart of my recommended course of treatment by my doctor. I wash my hair twice a week, using the prescription shampoo, and then i also use a hydrating, sulfate free cleanser (either a sulfate free shampoo or actual cleansing co-wash) too. I do not use a rinse out conditioner to cowash with. With my scalp, that's like adding more fuel to the fire, when it comes to my scalp eczema. I do condition after every wash. When it comes to styling my hair, i use only one styling aid in my hair for such, and that's it. Outside of the products that i use for my scalp eczema that's prescribed to ne, i do mainly stick with natural products, that work for my hair and most especially do not cause major flareups with my scalp. plus when it comes to rinsing out whst i use to cleanse and condition my hair with, i make sure to do such very, very thoroughly to make sure that all tracrs are such are effectively removed from out of my hair and compleyely removed from off my salp. And, if by chance, i do come a aross a product, after buying it and using it that does not agree with my scalp, and i am able to return it, i will surely do so as soon as possible.

    After being diagnosed with scalp eczema, I have learned to educate myself on different scalp conditions, however, you must understand, that there is no one size fits all treatment that applies to curing psoriasis or any other scalp or skin condition. Which is why, i would look towards seeking advice from your medical doctor or dermatologist at this time, who can provide you with the best expert help that your in true need of at this point.

    And, a great website for you to check out is www.psoriasis.com. It offers a wealth of knowdgeable info, that i feel would be of help to you at this time. As, I certainly do hope with all my heart that things will get better for you.
    Diagnosed with Scalp Eczema 6/2015
    (Don't hair type/loose curl pattern/fine texture/low density/high porosity

    Current Regimen (Ayurvedic Based):
    Cleansers- Bobeam Shampoo Bars
    Stylers-Rotate between Camille Rose Naturals Almond Jai Twisting Butter and Camille Rose Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel

    I only wear my hair in wash n gos or buns. Also,
    I do not use conditioner on my hair on a weekly basis. And, my hair is A ok with that!
  • psycho78njpsycho78nj Posts: 1Registered Users
    Oh honey! I know, I have it too & it SUCKS!! I'm a 3B. My dermatologist gave me 2 prescriptions over the course of the past year (Clobetasol, a watery solution & betamethasone, which is a foam. They were prescribed at different times, they're not to be used together). I found they would work for a few weeks & then stop working!!

    The most important thing you need to do is see a dermatologist, and if you are experiencing joint problems along with having psoriasis, see a rheumatologist. Google information on psoriasis. Psoriasis is an autoimmune disorder, meaning that the immune system overproduces skin cells, leading to the buildup of "plaques" (the thick flaky spots you notice on your scalp or even elsewhere on the body). I unfortunately have psoriatic arthritis, meaning I have the associated joint problems along with psoriasis (an estimated 30% of psoriasis sufferers develop PsA). There is a high likelihood that someone in your family also has psoriasis. There are a lot of medications on the market now targeted at psoriasis & PsA: Humira, Enbrel, methotrexate, Plaquenil, etc. I'm still going through the process of finding the right medication. My dermatologist & rheumatologist both told me, once you find the right systemic medication, the psoriasis will hopefully begin to heal & go into remission, meaning you will hopefully not have flare ups as often (and stress is definitely a trigger). I know this is an old post, but this is important info. There are OTC psoriasis shampoos (Dermarest, Neutrogena T-gel shampoos), but they often provide very short-term relief. The immune system issue is what has to be addressed to get it under control. Best of luck to you & message me anytime if you'd like to talk! :)
  • MeiMei Curl Neophyte Posts: 259Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Regenepure DR is the only thing that's helped my seborrhea. According to the website it isn't a CG-friendly shampoo but my bottle has water-soluble dimethicone (PEG), so I've actually emailed them for clarification on what kind of silicone they are using and also recommended they use water-soluble dimethicone or remove it altogether.

    I only have to use it twice a month now and I haven't had flare-ups since. On other wash days, I use Devacurl's Low-Poo for my shampoo, as it doesn't get rid of my hair's natural oils, and it doesn't affect my scalp. The only downside to it is it has glycerin which my hair hates, but because I rinse it out it doesn't affect my hair much. Then I use glycerin-free conditioners, leave-ins, and mousses. Absolutely no gel anymore, my hair hates it, and I end up with itchy scalp even if I try to put the gel on from around my ears down to my ends. When my seborrhea was active it was such a horrible, uncomfortable, painful and itchy feeling, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Unfortunately home remedies didn't work for my seborrhea, neither did elimination diets. But the Regenepure DR worked well for me.

    ETA: I also agree that seeing a physician in regards to additional psoriasis symptoms is a good idea. It can be very debilitating otherwise. As someone with fibro, I know it isn't easy dealing with all the symptoms and discomfort :(

    ETA 2: This is the only one I've found that is fully silicone, sulfate, and paraben-free. No ketoconazole in it but I'm willing to give it a go and see if it helps my seborrhea. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FGDIAS/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000FGDIAS&linkCode=as2&tag=kelefitn-20
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    Holy Grail: Matrix Biolage Cleansing Conditioner for Curly Hair
    I rotate through the rest of my products depending on weather and etc but usually don't need them
    I try not to use products tested on animals if I can help it.
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  • JenniferHJenniferH Posts: 1Registered Users
    I know this is a SUPER OLD post, but I'm having similar issues. I am fairly well under control with my ketoconazole shampoo (prescription), but I want to just co-wash. I feel like I need to continue the shampoo, but I don't think it's CG approved. Ideas? Advice??

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