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what could be the drying factor in these products?

DarbyDarby Posts: 1,025Registered Users
I so wanted to like the deva low poo and condish but after a while, my hair became dryer and dryer and my scalp began to itch!!
This is the low poo:
Water (Aqua,Eau), Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Glycerin, Coco-Betaine, Polyquaternium-7, PEG-75 Lanolin, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Citrus Aurentium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Polyquaternium-10, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Propylene Glycol, Aminomethyl Propanol, Benzophenone-4, Ascorbic Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Fragrance (Parfum), Red 40 (CI 16035), Yellow 5 (CI19140)

And the condsh:
Water (Aqua, Eau), Glycerin, Cetearyl Alcohol, Behentrimonium Chloride, Glycol Distearate, Cetyl Esters, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Wax, Citrus Aurentium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Propylene Glycol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Ascorbic Acid, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Fragrance (Parfum), Red 40 (CI 16035), Yellow 5 (CI 19140)

The only product I like is the gel.
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b

Comments

  • elizardelizard Posts: 284Registered Users
    Glycerin
    2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
    medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
    hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

    low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
    RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
    stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
    DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
  • CurlygrljaxCurlygrljax Posts: 3Registered Users
    Darby I am having the same response to the Devacurl line. New to this site when I decided to try a change. May have to go back to my old products and do some more investigation on this site, ugh!:color:
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    Preservatives those products contain:

    Itchy Scalp Causes: Preservatives in Hair Products

    Also it might be the protein content drying you out (as well as the glycerine) if your hair is protein sensitive. Even people who are not protein sensitive probably don't want to use protein in their penetrating products (such as conditioner) week in and week out. Not unless you're protein craving. . .I would recommend switching out to a more moisturizing conditioner that's protein free such as Tresemme Naturals to see if it makes a difference. (It's CG approved and it's much cheaper than the One Conditioner.) Also the Shea Moisture shampoos are very friendly to the scalp, I've found. They clean without irritating or stripping. If it's not enough you can always get a good clarifying shampoo and use that as needed. Rotate your conditioners if nothing else
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I find hops to be very drying.
    Kiva! Microfinance works.

    Med/Coarse, porous curly.
  • Aqua_LilyAqua_Lily Posts: 557Registered Users
    Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Wax and Citrus Aurentium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract could also be the culprits. Fruits of the citrus family can be very drying. I heard from several people on the internet that they are sensitive to this, and I read on a chemist website about hair product ingredients that citrus stuff can be drying to the hair. Not everyone is sensitive to this but some people are.

    I have the same with peppermint. I CAN'T use peppermint oil nor extract. It dramatically dries my hair out. Worse than sodium laureth sulfate. I don't even want to think back to the time I put it in my hair, it was disastrous. My hair hates it so bad, but for most people this ingredient doesn't give ANY problems.
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    Current length: tailbone
    Goal length: mid-thigh (wet)
    3A/2C M iii med por, high elast

    HGs:
    Clarify: Nivea
    Lo-poo: Nature's Gate
    CW: Elvive Volume Collagen
    RO: EO Keratin, Desert Essence Raspberry

    LI: Elvive volume collagen, KCKT
    Seal: Grapeseed oil
    Gel: Studioline

    PT: EO Keratin co
    DT: RO+oils
    Hairgrowth stim.: JBCO+EVCO


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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'd have trouble with the polyquats in the shampoo. I find that they coat my hair and cause frizz--even when wet. (4, 7 and 10 are really bad for me.) While I'm told that they don't build up, I need to wash with a surfactant that's stronger than coco b to remove them.

    The other problem with Deva is that they've been know to change ingredients and not the labels. There was a thread a few months ago about someone having a new bottle of One C that didn't work the same as her previous bottle. They did, admittedly, do this several years ago. Don't know if you can find the threads about that--pretty contentious.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • rmc2rmc2 Posts: 349Registered Users
    For shampoo, I use 4 tbsp aloe Vera gel mixed with 2 tbsp each of honey and apple cider vinegar. Try it out!
  • HootenannyHootenanny Posts: 300Registered Users
    Totally agree with kathymack about deva changing their ingredients sometimes.

    The aloe, honey, and ACV poo sounds awesome, I'm gonna try it. :)
    :cat: Medium/coarse, low porosity, dense, mix of 3s :cat:
    CG (again) since Nov. 2012

    Cleanse: SM Moisture Retention, Elucence MBC, KC Come Clean
    Condish: Giovanni DL, Cure Care, Ion Treatment, GVP Balm, AOHR
    Protein: AOGPB, CNPF, SSRPT
    Stylers: KCCC, SM Souffle, AOMM, SS CEJ, JCRR, JCCC

    :cat: Trying out steaming! :cat:
  • anonymous_133347anonymous_133347 Posts: 1,426Registered Users
    rmc2 wrote: »
    For shampoo, I use 4 tbsp aloe Vera gel mixed with 2 tbsp each of honey and apple cider vinegar. Try it out!

    Wait how much ACV? 2 tbsp? Just making sure it's 2 tbsp each:

    2 tbsp honey + 2 tbsp ACV
    and not 1 tbsp honey + 1 tbsp ACV.
    3A - C, HP, ME, HD. (Coarse, High Porosity, Medium Elasticity, High Density.)

    CG since Nov. 2012

    Poos: SM Moisture Retention + Yucca Baobab, TJ's Tea Tree Tingle
    Condish: TJ 'sTea Tree Tingle*, SM Moisture Retention* + Curl & Shine + Yucca Baobab, Yes to Blueberries
    Stylers: KCKT*, SM Curl Enhancing Smoothie* + Curl & Style Milk*, KCCC*, FSG*, CJ Pattern Pusha, Curl Keeper
    Sealers: Jojoba* or Grapeseed* oil

    * = HG

  • CauCau Posts: 38Registered Users
    rmc2, you mix aloe vera gel + honey + ACV plus shampoo. Or, you only use this mix to wash?...
    3b/c - fine texture - normal/high porosity (from coloring)

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  • frizzinflafrizzinfla Posts: 190Registered Users
    I agree about polyquats. They build up and dry out my hair terribly.
  • NvmbrCurlssNvmbrCurlss Posts: 732Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Polyquats and hops did me in ...


    3B, Fine, Med D, Norm P&E
    LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Tropical Coconut/VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT/ CJBCLI/HETT/HENOYF (mixed w/ GSO)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
    LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


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