Our hamster died yesterday...

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and my daughter is sooooo sad (my son doesn't care).

My daughter wants another hamster (or guinea pig or rabbit) asap, I guess to ease the pain.

Is it a good idea to buy a replacement pet immediately?

(The hamster was our only pet.)

I don't mind if she gets another hamster but I'm afraid she might be disappointed bc the previous hamster was uncannily friendly and outgoing and faithful.

And ugh, I would feel so bad if this one died prematurely, too.

And just to assuage my own possible feelings of guilt, it's OK to lower the temperature of your house to 63 during the day w/ a hamster, right? The one that just died had bedding and towels and straw enclosures inside the tank.

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  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    was the cage a wire cage or a glass cage? I'd imagine that the hammie should have been ok at 63.

    I'm not sure about when to get a new pet. I'd be disappointed if the new hammie wasn't like the old one especially if it was a good one.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    Curlyminx wrote: »
    was the cage a wire cage or a glass cage? I'd imagine that the hammie should have been ok at 63.

    I'm not sure about when to get a new pet. I'd be disappointed if the new hammie wasn't like the old one especially if it was a good one.

    It was a glass aquarium. We tried and returned three other cages before settling on this aquarium...which I initially didn't like the idea of. But none of the wire or plastic or wire/pastic combo cages came close to the size of the aquarium and/or were too flimsy. And I wanted her to have plenty of room.

    Yeah, I worry she will feel disappointed w/ a less fun hamster. (And the one that just died was like one in a million.)

    And maybe even any hamster...bc now that she is an "experienced" pet owner, she might want something more...you know...larger and more mobile and whatever.

  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    Oh I'm so sorry. Losing a pet is so hard. Even harder on kids.


    I say get her one, but talk to her about how hamsters have different personalities just like people and this new one may not be the same as the old one, s/he will be different, but she will learn to love him/her just the same. Try to make sure she kinda understands this before getting one. It may alleviate any disappointment.

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  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    I'm pretty sure that you are ok to relieve yourself of the worry that you killed it. A glass cage HAS to be warm. It isn't like he would be getting a breeze in there. So he would just need to bundle up and between body heat and warming the bedding, he should have been good.

    And I would worry about the bigger animal too. Guinea pig here you come! :)
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  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Posts: 9,738Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    I googled to find the life span of both hamsters and guinea pigs and I found this.....

    Best pet in general: Hamster, as you can just place them on shelves and let them run around or hold them in the palm of your hand, guinea pigs are too pig but you can hold them in your lap
    More suited to a four year old: Guinea pig, hamsters would be difficult for a four year old to handle and it's likely she would lose it.
    Guinea pigs would be more expensive than are hamster but are still reasonable to keep and they take about the same amount of care and attention as far as I can see. Guinea pigs don't hurt as easily as hamsters, I' not saying that you can be rough withthem, but a 4 year old could very easily harm a hamster accidently when all she wants to do is give it a cuddle, she would be too young to undestand shes hurting him. Plus, hamsters don't really appreciate cuddles they appreciate excersise, a guinea pig would love to becuddled and sit patiently in her arms whilst she strokes and cuddles him.
    For now your daughter should have a guinea pig, plus they live longer, a hamster would most likely die within three years and she would find this hard to accept as she will only be 7! Guinea pigs can live up till 8 years (but more likely 6 or 7) and she will then be old enough to accept the death of her pet as she wll be between 10-13 and this will then be a perfect time to get a hamster!
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  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    Daphne, my guinea pig died after 6 years. I loved her. She was cute. She would "purr" and vibrate at me when I would get home.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    Lotsawaves wrote: »
    I googled to find the life span of both hamsters and guinea pigs and I found this.....

    Best pet in general: Hamster, as you can just place them on shelves and let them run around or hold them in the palm of your hand, guinea pigs are too pig but you can hold them in your lap
    More suited to a four year old: Guinea pig, hamsters would be difficult for a four year old to handle and it's likely she would lose it.
    Guinea pigs would be more expensive than are hamster but are still reasonable to keep and they take about the same amount of care and attention as far as I can see. Guinea pigs don't hurt as easily as hamsters, I' not saying that you can be rough withthem, but a 4 year old could very easily harm a hamster accidently when all she wants to do is give it a cuddle, she would be too young to undestand shes hurting him. Plus, hamsters don't really appreciate cuddles they appreciate excersise, a guinea pig would love to becuddled and sit patiently in her arms whilst she strokes and cuddles him.
    For now your daughter should have a guinea pig, plus they live longer, a hamster would most likely die within three years and she would find this hard to accept as she will only be 7! Guinea pigs can live up till 8 years (but more likely 6 or 7) and she will then be old enough to accept the death of her pet as she wll be between 10-13 and this will then be a perfect time to get a hamster!

    That's great. Thank you!

    GPs are so cute.

    I will look into getting a GP. There's something about rabbits that seems a bit too outdoorsey.

  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    Curlyminx wrote: »
    Daphne, my guinea pig died after 6 years. I loved her. She was cute. She would "purr" and vibrate at me when I would get home.
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  • sarah42sarah42 Posts: 4,034Registered Users
    Would you consider a pet rat? From what I've heard and read, they are good pets for kids--clean, smart, and social with people. The downsides--they are active at night, don't live very long (2-3 years), and people think they're gross.
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  • Jess the MessJess the Mess Posts: 5,844Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I was also going to suggest a pet rat. They are very interactive and loyal, especially if you get one as a baby and handle it often. My daughters rats were great. They would stay on her shoulder or run around on her bed and play. She loved them. The down side is the 2-3 year life span. She was devastated when the last one died a few months ago and is taking a break from rodents. She just gets too attached. I would get her another rat in a heartbeat if she asked.
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  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Posts: 9,738Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    I had a friend who had a rabbit and it really stunk. I was surprised especially since she was very anal about keeping it and the cage so clean.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    My daughter would be happy to have a rat, as she loves playing w/ them at the pet store. But honestly, I just could NOT get on board. I just couldn't. But yes, I have heard good things about rats as pets.

    Maybe if there was a fluffier breed w/o a tail and just not so ratty looking? :puker:

    No, on second thought, I couldn't.

    Ugh, I'm reading you need to keep at least 2 GPigs. That sounds like a lot...says each one eats a cup of lettuce per day in addition to commercial food and needs hours of free range exercise?

  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    Hmm... Poor Daphne was an only pet.

    She seemed just fine being a singular pet.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    Curlyminx wrote: »
    Hmm... Poor Daphne was an only pet.

    She seemed just fine being a singular pet.

    How much time did you and your family spend playing w/ her out of the cage?

  • NetGNetG Posts: 8,116Registered Users
    Ferrets are another option, too. I know friends who have had them found they had a ton of personality, were easy to keep clean, etc. I think we have some ferret owners here who could chime in...


    Guinea pig was my first thought, though, as they seem more friendly than the typical hamster. I've never really appreciated friends' pet rabbits no matter how cute. The ones I've known just were more like wild animals stuck indoors than pets.
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  • CurlyminxCurlyminx Posts: 5,581Registered Users
    It really couldn't have been too long. My dad would play with her in the morning and when I got home I would play with her. Maybe a couple of hours. For a while she had the ball to walk around the house, but she peed in the ball and it got all over the carpet and that was the end of that.

    Now I feel like I should have made her have more fun. :(
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  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    My daughter would be happy to have a rat, as she loves playing w/ them at the pet store. But honestly, I just could NOT get on board. I just couldn't. But yes, I have heard good things about rats as pets.

    Maybe if there was a fluffier breed w/o a tail and just not so ratty looking? :puker:

    No, on second thought, I couldn't.

    Ugh, I'm reading you need to keep at least 2 GPigs. That sounds like a lot...says each one eats a cup of lettuce per day in addition to commercial food and needs hours of free range exercise?

    Yes. GPigs need a companion. My coworker's GPigs were together for 6 yrs. One recently passed. It was so sad since I had met them and fell in love with them. I cried. :(

    To my knowledge he hasn't got another one.


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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    coilynapp wrote: »
    My daughter would be happy to have a rat, as she loves playing w/ them at the pet store. But honestly, I just could NOT get on board. I just couldn't. But yes, I have heard good things about rats as pets.

    Maybe if there was a fluffier breed w/o a tail and just not so ratty looking? :puker:

    No, on second thought, I couldn't.

    Ugh, I'm reading you need to keep at least 2 GPigs. That sounds like a lot...says each one eats a cup of lettuce per day in addition to commercial food and needs hours of free range exercise?

    Yes. GPigs need a companion. My coworker's GPigs were together for 6 yrs. One recently passed. It was so sad since I had met them and fell in love with them. I cried. :(

    To my knowledge he hasn't got another one.


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    There's something about GPs, isn't there, that makes them very easy to fall in love with? They are beyond cute and like living stuffed animals!

    But what happens when one dies? Are you supposed to just suddenly introduce a new one into the house and hope they old one accepts it? Or just leave the remaining one to die quickly after from a broken heart?

  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    coilynapp wrote: »
    My daughter would be happy to have a rat, as she loves playing w/ them at the pet store. But honestly, I just could NOT get on board. I just couldn't. But yes, I have heard good things about rats as pets.

    Maybe if there was a fluffier breed w/o a tail and just not so ratty looking? :puker:

    No, on second thought, I couldn't.

    Ugh, I'm reading you need to keep at least 2 GPigs. That sounds like a lot...says each one eats a cup of lettuce per day in addition to commercial food and needs hours of free range exercise?

    Yes. GPigs need a companion. My coworker's GPigs were together for 6 yrs. One recently passed. It was so sad since I had met them and fell in love with them. I cried. :(

    To my knowledge he hasn't got another one.


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    There's something about GPs, isn't there, that makes them very easy to fall in love with? They are beyond cute and like living stuffed animals!

    But what happens when one dies? Are you supposed to just suddenly introduce a new one into the house and hope they old one accepts it? Or just leave the remaining one to die quickly after from a broken heart?

    The bolded makes me really sad because that's probably what will happen if left alone. But I'm not sure if getting another one is useful or not.
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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    When i got my first hamster i got two. i was devestated when sammy died a slow death. sandy died a year or so later when she got out of her cage when she was outside hanging with me. at least i'm assuming she died, it was no way she could had survived out there.

    i got another hamster years later the three of them had totally different personalities. sadny was independent adn loved freedom. she found a way to break out of her cage and run around and when she was done or i called her to would run up to me for cuddle time. sammy only like being out his cage if i was holding him. if i put him down he would try to climb up my legs. herman prefered to sleep with me, but because of my dog couldnt. he was very clingy and if i left the house to stay over a friends house he do it and wouldnt eat or play just lay in the corner until i came back home. all my hamsters lived a really long time at least 2+ years.

    my sister got a hamster and forgot about him. we are not sure when he died because when i found him, he was already rotting away stinking up the room! WTF!? poor oscar felix.

    i wouldnt get your daughter a new pet right away. she would be really disappointed if this hamster isnt like her last one. it happened to me when my bird died. the very next week i had a new one. i thought it would make me feel better, but it just made me feel worst. my first bird would talk to me and wake me in the morning and we let him have freedom to do his thing. he was a very well behaved bird. the second bird was a demon who never shut up but didnt speak a word and he wouldnt even let us near the cage to clean it. we sent him to live with my aunt's mom who was a crazy bird lady. Give it some time then talk about getting her another pet.

    also i think a really good home for hamsters are the condo's my hamsters always loved thim adn you can build them as big as you want and the temperatures can be different in different parts so they can decide if they want to be coler or hotter.

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    this one is insane!! Now I want a hamster!

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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    That bottom cage is sick!!

    When I got the hamster that just died, there weren't many great cage options at the pet store. I found them to all be too small for my liking. I first bought one of those connectable ones (w/ the intention of possibly adding on) but the two tunnels it had weren't secure and kept opening and separating. And the trap doors kept opening. Once we found the hamster on the floor. about 10 feet away from the cage; she had figured out how to open it one night while we were asleep. So...back that cage went.

    I had gerbils as kid and had (older versions of) those connectable cages and they were a lot more sturdy back then. I wish I could find ones ike that now.

    And now that i am considering guinea pigs, I am even more frustrated over the cage situation. Websites say you need cages almost the size of bathtubs for a pair of GPs if you want them to be happy and healthy.

    And I would buy one like that if I could find one. But what they're caling GP/rabbit cages in petstores are the size of small fish tanks. I even looked at online stores and on Craigslist. Hoping to eben find something handmade.

    I am thinking of buying an outdoor wooden/wire rabbit hutch, if I get GPs, and using it as an indoor cage. But what I don't like about them is that they're mostly wooden and you can't see the animas inside very well.

    And even those are not all that big.

  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    a friend of mine had a cage similar to this for her gp:

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    it had multiple levels so instead of it being long adn taking up room it was high. i had another friend who had one more like this:

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    seems small, but she always let him out and run around so he seemed happy and lived a long time.
  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    thelio wrote: »
    a friend of mine had a cage similar to this for her gp:

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    it had multiple levels so instead of it being long adn taking up room it was high. i had another friend who had one more like this:

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    seems small, but she always let him out and run around so he seemed happy and lived a long time.

    I'm certainly no expert but the one on the bottom seems way too small. Esp for two GPs.

    The top one looks ike fun but are GPs agile like rats and ferrets? Can they be trusted to climb and balance like that?

    What if I wanted to build a big, shallow 1.5 level cage from wire? Is there a way to easily do that? Like from plans or some kind of kit?

  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    oh wait, you thinking about getting two! then no then bottom one wont work unless you get two. instead of being roomies they can be neighbors.

    when we got a ferret, the cages were way too much. so my dad had a friend build one. he was a carpenter so he didnt need any plans or anything. he just got the wire mesh and 2 by 4's and basic build walls and a floor. he kept the wall's high enough so that he would need a top and the ferret couldnt get out. similar to this but the wire had maller holes:

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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,898Registered Users Curl Virtuoso
    That looks great! I know my exhusband could easily build that...but he won't. So maybe that's what I need to do...pay a carpenter.

    I am not tied to two GPs...but it seems most sources strongy advise getting two.

  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    i have only known people who had one. you can always ask questions when you go buy them. and if you chack craigslist you may be able to find a cage for sale like that. i have recently discovered you can find damn near eveything on craigslist!
  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    Thelio, that bottom cage makes me want a hamster just so that I can have that cage in my house! It is incredible!!!!!
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  • NarniaNarnia Posts: 1,770Registered Users
    Thelio seriously two hamsters and they didn't kill each other?! Hamsters are NOT supposed to live together or even be in cages beside each other! They will literally fight to the death after baby-hood. I guess you got lucky ha!

    I think a guinea pig is a great option :-) And if you're willing to have two, even better, but I don't think it's a requirement. They say cats are happier with a companion too, but seriously, a lot of people only have one cat.
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  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    ^^Yes. My Brandi is definitely happier since I got Chui (cats). But yes many people just own singular pets.

    My friend had only one GP, but she had 2 cats and a dog--not that they played with the GP LOL.
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