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Finally going CG!!!

longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
I have been CG modified for a while but noticed that some products still had cones in them. Today I start my first attempt at pure CG no sulfates or cones. I would like to know what products have worked best and which ones really hold curls. I am looking to buy SM organic shea butter curl shampoo...has anyone tried it? Also about hair routines that have worked. Before and after pics would be much appreciated. :thumright: Also if anyone knows of a good salon that knows how to cut curly hair in the miami, fl area. Im in desperate need of a haircut but i always get the pyramid effect. Thanks for the help & sorry for the long post.
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curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
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  • mhen76mhen76 Posts: 813Registered Users
    Hello, longlivecurls! I love the Shea Moisture line. But products work differently on everyone. A good place to start is learning about your hair properties. That will help you narrow down what products will work best for your hair. Here are some links that helped me a great deal in understanding properties:
    Curly Hair Tips, Styles & Products - NaturallyCurly
    Live Curly Live Free - Home
    3B, fine, normal to low porosity
    Modified CG since June 2010
    HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    I have some products from that line and I like them so far just havent tried this specific shampoo. I do like that it has protein even tho my hair is nowhere near fine (ive read protein works well on fine hair) it tends to love protein. Thanks for the links looks like i got some hw to do lol

    oh by the way i love your hair hope my hair can look that nice one day :toothy8:
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



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  • JulesonlineJulesonline Posts: 444Registered Users
    Welcome to the CG journey. I do think it is a journey...finding out how your hair responds and which products to use. I loved the scent of the SM curl shampoo, but alas, my hair did not like it too much. Have fun!
    JulesOnline
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
    Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


    Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
    Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
    Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
    RO/LI:
    YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
    Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Welcome! For some advice that may help you avoid the whole "pyramid" hair cut, check out this link:

    Basically, what's required is strategic layers, at least some of which are cut at a diagonal angle. The top-most layers (in the crown and around the face) should have angles cut short enough to relieve the curls of excess weight that might otherwise give you the "flat top" look, which when paired with the rest of the hair, creates that pyramidic east-west volume.

    It's also a great idea to consider stylists who specialize in curly hair. If you haven't already, you could try having your hair cut dry instead of wet for more predictable results. Some salons offer the "Deva cut", for example.

    Good luck!
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Thanks ladies for the advice. Today is the first day i will use the shampoo so ill update how it goes.

    As for the haircut that's exactly what I always get flat top and poof around the neck area disaster lol even tho I get layers they always cut it like straight hair and wet I'm looking for a good Devacurl cut specialist in Miami. Know of any???

    Any 2nd day tips n tricks? I'm having trouble finding a good method so far I just put it in a bun :\
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    For finding salons in your area, you can try clicking on the "Salons" feature at the top of the page. It helps you to search by region and to check out salon reviews. You can also do a search on Yelp (can search under your area, and use keywords like "curly hair salon").

    For 2nd day hair, purchase a silk pillow case. They help keep your hair from snagging and the curls from getting snarled or pulled out of shape. Alternately, some women use silk hair bonnets. ... One method for keeping curls protected at night as you toss and turn is something called the pineapple method.
  • mhen76mhen76 Posts: 813Registered Users
    I do both the satin pillowcase and the pineapple (hubby calls it my "chicken head"). I know I look like a dork but it really does help. In the morning, I take the pineapple down and spritz with water or a mixture of water and aloe vera gel, scrunch a little and I'm good to go. Sometimes I put a few jaw clips in the top while the spritz dries for a little extra lift on the crown area. It's a pretty simple routine but it's gotten me 3rd and even 4th day hair.
    3B, fine, normal to low porosity
    Modified CG since June 2010
    HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
  • JulesonlineJulesonline Posts: 444Registered Users
    mhen76 wrote: »
    I do both the satin pillowcase and the pineapple (hubby calls it my "chicken head"). I know I look like a dork but it really does help. In the morning, I take the pineapple down and spritz with water or a mixture of water and aloe vera gel, scrunch a little and I'm good to go. Sometimes I put a few jaw clips in the top while the spritz dries for a little extra lift on the crown area. It's a pretty simple routine but it's gotten me 3rd and even 4th day hair.

    I too have been doing both the satin pillow and pineapple and have been getting OK, not great, 2nd day hair. What kind of jaw clips do you use?
    JulesOnline
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    3A/B? A corkicelli mix of ringlets, spirals, helixes & s-shaped curls
    Medium-fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity


    Summer: pink; Winter: Blue; Year Round: green
    Lo-Poo:Giovanni SAS sulfate free poo, L'Oreal Evercream CC
    Co-wash: TNRV, VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TNNM
    RO/LI:
    YTC, Nexxus Hydra-light w/ CNPF GVPCB, Biolage CB, TNNM, Giovanni SAS
    Styler: KCCC FSG, BRHG, LALSG



  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Last night I tried the pineapple method with just a cloth scrunchie. It was ok but I ended up putting it in a high ponytail before lunch lol the bottom curls were nice but my hair is too long for the pineapple method to work effectively. I don't have a satin pillowcase so during lunch I hit Walmart and bought a satin cap. Can't wait to try it out and see if it helps.

    ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1358206410.574369.jpg
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    As far as pineappling long hair, you can simply place a second (or even third) scrunchie further down the length of your "pineapple". But whether or not you feel like trying that, hopefully you'll be happy with your new satin cap :)
  • mhen76mhen76 Posts: 813Registered Users
    I use the simple, clips that can be purchased in any drug store. Sometimes called claw clips or butterfly clips. Like these only a little bigger:

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    I lift a little hair and randomly place them around the top of my head. Gives me nice volume.
    3B, fine, normal to low porosity
    Modified CG since June 2010
    HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
  • Aqua_LilyAqua_Lily Posts: 557Registered Users
    welcome! ^^
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    Current length: tailbone
    Goal length: mid-thigh (wet)
    3A/2C M iii med por, high elast

    HGs:
    Clarify: Nivea
    Lo-poo: Nature's Gate
    CW: Elvive Volume Collagen
    RO: EO Keratin, Desert Essence Raspberry

    LI: Elvive volume collagen, KCKT
    Seal: Grapeseed oil
    Gel: Studioline

    PT: EO Keratin co
    DT: RO+oils
    Hairgrowth stim.: JBCO+EVCO


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  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Korkscrew wrote: »
    As far as pineappling long hair, you can simply place a second (or even third) scrunchie further down the length of your "pineapple". But whether or not you feel like trying that, hopefully you'll be happy with your new satin cap :)

    I will give that a try and see how it goes :) ...any tips on how I can help my curls clump? I'm getting stringy hair and it's everywhere lol
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    mhen76 wrote: »
    I use the simple, clips that can be purchased in any drug store. Sometimes called claw clips or butterfly clips. Like these only a little bigger:

    AAAAC66UVFcAAAAAAAg_dQ.jpg?v=1226989139000

    I lift a little hair and randomly place them around the top of my head. Gives me nice volume.

    Definitely need to buy some and give it a try I need volume at my roots :D
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Thank aqua_lily :D
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    I will give that a try and see how it goes :) ...any tips on how I can help my curls clump? I'm getting stringy hair and it's everywhere lol

    My hair naturally clumps like crazy and I can tell you there is one thing that will push it to clump even more:

    Raking excess conditioner through my dripping wet hair (finger combing it through). It creates cyclonical clumps of slimy goodness, whether or not I rinse most or all of that conditioner out (I always leave some in).

    And then I've heard some people say just the act of scrunching conditioner and gel into their wet hair works ... But then again, some say that actually breaks up their curls (?). I don't bother scrunching because I'm too lazy too, plus nothing but an act of God (or a bad chemical process) will keep my hair from curling up.

    Some people use the Super Soaker method.
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    yea I've had that problem too some days it helps and others gel makes my hair stringy which even tho it does curl its not the look I'm going for. I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that i squeeze the water out and then apply a cream and gel...I wonder if i should try applying the products while still in the shower??? i love your curls wish my hair looked like that :toothy8:

    aqua_lily I didn't see the your pictures till now (for some reason they didn't show on my phone before) your curls are amazing and soft looking...whats your styling method?
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Curly hair is such an unpredictable animal LOL ... I completely think you're right, that squeezing the water out of hair can reduce it's clumping action! Yeah, you may find it easier to just do your hair while in the shower - at least I have because you don't have to worry so much about all that water getting everywhere :blob4: But it sounds like right now you're in experimentation mode and are learning exactly the sort of routine that's going to work best for you ;) ... Thanks so much for the hair compliment! I'm sure your hair is lovely :thumbleft:
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Yea definitely experimental mode it's a bit frustrating cause you gotta try so many things but I'm hoping that once I get it right my hair will look awesome and it'll all be worth it...still on the search for a stylist I think that will improve a lot of my issues especially since my ends are dry...can't wait to try out the new routine and see how it goes
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    I'm sure you'll figure out how to make the most of your hair and get an excellent cut w/some research and a little and error :toothy4:
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Tnx :D
    I'm trying plopping but I'm getting weird curls on top...have u tried this method or had the same issues?

    I tried super soaking method n big plus for re-clumping n creating curls I just gotta buy a microfiber towel to hold all that water LOL
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • christina.grchristina.gr Posts: 30Registered Users
    The key to great clumps is to apply LI to soaking wet hair, scrunch a bit of water out, then apply FSD gel (lots of it) hair is almost soaking again, and then scrunch rest of excess water out. I stopped using a towel on hair, it takes out too much product, breaks clumps, frizz etc.
    Hair will still continue to be drippy, just scrunch the extra out gently. Diffuse dry. BTW-plopping didn't work for me either.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Back on the CG wagon!:toothy2:
    Hair Type: 2c/3a winter, low porosity, protein sensitive
    (Cleanse w/Distilled water only)
    Shampoo: Baking soda & brown sugar
    Condish: Sauve Naturals green apple or aloe waterlily
    Rinse: ACV
    LI: Kinky Curly Knot Today
    Styler: homemade flaxseed gel, topped w/KC Spiral Spritz
    DT: veg. glycerin mixed w/conditioner
    "Life's a garden. Dig it." :toothy4:
  • SandiSandi Posts: 364Registered Users
    Tnx :D
    I'm trying plopping but I'm getting weird curls on top...have u tried this method or had the same issues?

    I tried super soaking method n big plus for re-clumping n creating curls I just gotta buy a microfiber towel to hold all that water LOL

    Tell us if the towel works! I usually squeeze out a little of the extra moisture in the towel and air dry/diffuse.

    For the plopping question, yes, I get weird curls at the top, mostly when my shirt placement is slightly of OR I plop for too long. How long do you plop for?
    If you feel that your hair feels and looks nice with the exception of those curls, just finger curl them with water and conditioner. Otherwise, make sure that your hair is being scrunching like an accordion.
    Hair Type: 3c/4a, Coarse, Med-High Density, Med-Low Porosity
    Curly since '09
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Why not just use the hands to gently squeeze out excess water? When wet, the hands are smoother than any fabric surface, plus you have more control that way since you can feel just how much moisture you're wringing out.

    Why the need for the "middle man"?
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    Tnx for the tips I'll give them all a try and see what works best.

    Christina.gr I am still learning all the abbreviations so sorry for the question what does FSD stand for?

    Sandi I will let you know if the towel works or not as for the plopping I usually do it while I'm getting ready probably about 30 mins. Sometimes more if I'm busy doing something around the house since I don't like my hair wetting my whole back lol

    Korkscrew I wanted to try out the towel since I read that the hands cause frizz which is already a big issue for me and they recommended a cotton T-shirt (my hair drenches the shirt too quickly) or microfiber towel. Have you found this to be true or the opposite?

    Here are some pics of my hair today
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    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Korkscrew I wanted to try out the towel since I read that the hands cause frizz which is already a big issue for me and they recommended a cotton T-shirt (my hair drenches the shirt too quickly) or microfiber towel. Have you found this to be true or the opposite?

    Interesting! For me, nothing works better then hands alone. You may want to separately test all these methods (hands only, t-shirt, microfiber towel). Someone else recently started a thread about wearing dish washing gloves for this purpose.

    PS: Your hair looks nice and healthy! Pretty :)
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    I have a lot of experimenting to do...I used hands n then a T-shirt today but I will definitely be trying them all separately. As for dish washing gloves I've never heard of that I find it hilarious just thinking about it but hey you never know it just might work stranger things have happened LOL thanks for the compliment :D my ends need help tho that's old dyed fried n damaged hair I finally got in contact with a Devacurl specialist that was recommended on another forum hope I can get one next week my hair needs shape.
    CG NEWBIE :afro:
    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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