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Hmm, maybe I'll stop putting products in very wet hair...

See, I'm not a morning person. I can barely hold my coffee mug, let alone operate something complicated like the shower. This is why I usually wash my hair at night. But yesterday, I washed in the morning. And I wasn't awake enough yet, because when I emerged from the shower I kept thinking I'd forgotten something...Deodorant? Check. Face cream? Check. It wasn't until my hair had been up in the microfibre towel for 10 min, that I realized -- I had forgotten to put any gel in?!?! :shock:

That pretty much spells disaster for me. If I don't get products on while my hair is wet, & before my towel-- I usually do it right in the shower -- frizz begins almost instantly. I took off the towel & expected the worst. But nope, I had used my beloved GF Leave-in, & my hair actually looked more clumpy and no frizz yet. So I put on lots of B&A gel (which in the past, hasn't done much for me, certainly hasn't held up to humidity well) diffused 70% dry & ran out the door.

An hour later I went into the bathroom at work, &... wow! Very defined, frizz-free, much bigger chunkier curls than in the past. And 2nd day hair almost better than the first, just with my usual 2 quarter-sized dabs of GF Leave-in applied with wet hands.

It must be the GF, right? I'm wondering if it seals my hair enough to allow me to apply products to towel-dried hair, or if it's just that B&A works better this way than on very wet hair. Anyone have any similar experience?
3B, bra-strap length
laidback, very-modified CGer
HG: GF Sleek 'n Shine Leave-in; Alagio

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  • sfisher323sfisher323 Posts: 537Registered Users
    Hm. Not yet, but sounds like something worth experimenting with. Think I'll try 'forgetting' to put my gel in this weekend before plopping. :wink:
    embracing my inner curl since late Nov 2006
    2b/3a (I think?)
    color-treated red/brown, medium-textured hair
    PJ, currently using Suave citrus smoothie, B2B pom cond, GF C&S leave-in, AG re:coil, LOOB, HE SMU, Jessicurl HCC, CC, AIS
  • KristaRoseKristaRose Posts: 546Registered Users
    I can actually use the GF leave-in all by itself with no other products and get very good results. Although I don't do this often often b/c it just doesn't seem right to not put gel in!
    3B
    Growing out from a pixie cut. Long process but I'm getting there.
  • BrioBrio Posts: 1,432Registered Users
    I've never been one to put my products in sopping wet hair.

    I normally scrunch out water with my MF (that looks funny, doesn't it?) towel and then put in my gel.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Frizz Happens!
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  • KaiaKaia Posts: 8,815Registered Users
    See, I'm not a morning person. I can barely hold my coffee mug, let alone operate something complicated like the shower.

    Heehee, you sound like me. It's a small miracle I manage to get washed and dressed every morning.
    *Poster formerly known as Bailey422*

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  • medusahairmedusahair Posts: 3,515Registered Users
    I don't think frizz is possible with GF
    I bet your hair was glad for less water weight when the gel was applied
    2c/3a?
    Low porosity, medium texture.
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  • linda_mlinda_m Posts: 211Registered Users
    quoting LavendarCurls - "sounds like an experiment waiting to happen for me"! :)

    I think this shall be my month for trying non-standard approaches. So far it's been generating good results! Thanks for posting. I learn so much from the curlies on this board.
    Couple of inches past shoulder length 3A. Shampoo every 3rd or 4th day w/ baby shampoo; Tigi Fashionista conditioner; back to Condition 3-in-1 mousse . Alternate days water rinse, conditioner and mousse.
  • esmeraldaesmeralda Posts: 187Registered Users
    I tried to put styling in wet hair, but it didnt work for me.
    Now, I scruch with a MF towel & wait until half dry-then I put in product.
    I get away with using less styling too!!
    2C/3A,jetblack indian curls:)
  • LavenderCurlsLavenderCurls Posts: 1,477Registered Users
    linda_m wrote:
    quoting LavendarCurls - "sounds like an experiment waiting to happen for me"! :)

    :lol: ... I use Saturdays for experiments. Although, working with only 3 men, I could probably get away with experimenting everyday since they rarely notice when/if I'm having a good hair day or not :lol: .

    Oh, btw .. I started to try your leave-in after gel this morning, but my hair had gotten too dry by the time I remembered it. Maybe tomorrow :wink: ..

    I usually put gel in soaking wet hair, so this sounds like another experiment to try.
    CG-modified since 4/05
    2b/3a and 3b on occasion!
    Products: The hair aisle in my own cabinets. :roll:
    Best definition winner: KCCC
    Best volume winner: LOOB
  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,679Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Well I'm going to try this this morning. I've been straightening lately as I'm so frustrated with my hair - even my staples aren't working. Fingers crossed.

    Side note to medusahair - unfortunately frizz is possible with GF!
    3b in South Australia.
  • CurlyGina2CurlyGina2 Posts: 1,048Registered Users
    I don't style soaking wet hair either. My products seem much less potent when I do it.
  • KurleeKurlee Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    See, I'm not a morning person. I can barely hold my coffee mug, let alone operate something complicated like the shower.

    :lol: Man, you are like me. I start functioning properly in the afternoon usually. ;o)

    Glad the "new routine" worked. I kinda do it that way too.

    How long is your hair now? About the same?

  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,679Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Well, it actually worked quite well. Put in some GF leave in while still in the shower, blotted by wrapping my hair in an mf towel for about 15 mins (as I usually do) then raked thrugh some gel and left it to dry. Scrunched it completely dry with the diffuser (again, usual routine) and it actually looked ok, a bit stringy but I can cope with that. The best thing was I had much less frizz than usual - minor miracle - and it just kind of "sat" right. Even stood up to a pretty windy day. Think I need a stronger gel, but I'm sure I can force myself to go shopping again!
    Now if only this horrid cut would grow itself out.
    3b in South Australia.
  • CelticCurlsCelticCurls Posts: 558Registered Users
    Yes, I am glad to know there are other curlies who cannot function in the morning It takes me 2 mugs of coffee before I can safely drive.

    Krista, that's amazing that you can use nothing but GF Leave-in as a styler -- esp as you're a 3B. Do you live a really dry climate?

    I started putting stylers into very wet hair -- after squeezing water out with my hands, but b4 the towel -- b'coz frizz starts so fast for me, & b'coz I was getting tired of how long it took my hair to dry. If I don't seal it down immed after rinsing my condnr, frizz literally starts right then. That's the theory behind CK, which didn't work for me. I'm pretty certain putting gel into towel-dried hair would still be disastrous without the amazing GF leave-in. I'm going to try it today & use a different gel to see how that goes.

    I've never had an HG before, and now I find myself getting the urge to hoard (which is something I don't do bcz I'm PJ) and scanning other products to see which is closest to GF's ingred's, so I have a back-up in case it's D/C'd. :lol:
    3B, bra-strap length
    laidback, very-modified CGer
    HG: GF Sleek 'n Shine Leave-in; Alagio
  • CelticCurlsCelticCurls Posts: 558Registered Users
    OK, I ruined my own experiment. I tried the same technique: GF leave-in, towel, then this time the Got2B gel. But I decided to put SIF in b4 the gel, b'coz...OK, for no reason. It was just there, &...well, it was looking at me, like: "Why don't you ever use me? Other curlies use their SIF." So I did. And remembered why I don't: it leaves a gummy producty residue, much like One C if I leave it in. So my hair dried, & curls were defined & looked good -- except the top, which was weirdly straight -- but it felt yucky. So now, I don't know if it's b'coz I used the gel on toweled hair, or the SIF -- which I don't remember being that bad before.

    Why oh why can I not have the discipline of laurabeth, to test only one product at a time....She is my scientific method hero. I don't have the patience to control variables like that. :)
    3B, bra-strap length
    laidback, very-modified CGer
    HG: GF Sleek 'n Shine Leave-in; Alagio
  • linda_mlinda_m Posts: 211Registered Users
    I use Saturdays for experiments. ...
    Oh, btw .. I started to try your leave-in after gel this morning, but my hair had gotten too dry by the time I remembered it. Maybe tomorrow :wink: ..

    My experiment day is Sunday, because I work out on Saturdays and don't worry too much about styling my hair before I go. I'd love to hear how you do with the leave-in after gel experiment. I'll be sure to check back next Saturday for the results!:)
    Couple of inches past shoulder length 3A. Shampoo every 3rd or 4th day w/ baby shampoo; Tigi Fashionista conditioner; back to Condition 3-in-1 mousse . Alternate days water rinse, conditioner and mousse.
  • curlyfrancurlyfran Posts: 25Registered Users
    Is there only one GF leave-in?
  • LavenderCurlsLavenderCurls Posts: 1,477Registered Users
    linda_m wrote:
    My experiment day is Sunday, because I work out on Saturdays and don't worry too much about styling my hair before I go. I'd love to hear how you do with the leave-in after gel experiment. I'll be sure to check back next Saturday for the results!:)

    I tried putting my Making Waves gel in after just putting my leave-in in and wrapping my hair in a Turbie Twist for about 10 minutes. Worked pretty darn good! I need to try that with some other gels now. Haven't done the leave-in after gel experiment yet. When I do, I'll put in your thread that you had started :wink:.

    curlyfran - GF has the Sleek and Shine leave-in and the Curl and Shine Leave-in. I think those are the only ones - they're the only ones I've tried anyway.

    CelticCurls - I'm like KristaRose in that I've been able to just use GF condish with the matching leave-in as my only products. I'm also having alot of luck just using the conditioner as my leave-in.
    CG-modified since 4/05
    2b/3a and 3b on occasion!
    Products: The hair aisle in my own cabinets. :roll:
    Best definition winner: KCCC
    Best volume winner: LOOB
  • linda_mlinda_m Posts: 211Registered Users
    curlyfran wrote:
    Is there only one GF leave-in?
    I know of two - sleek 'n shine and curl 'n shine. I use and like the curl 'n shine. I've never used sleek 'n shine, but many here prefer it. I believe it's the more moisturizing of the two. I tend to overcondition, so it's probably best that I use the other one:-)
    Couple of inches past shoulder length 3A. Shampoo every 3rd or 4th day w/ baby shampoo; Tigi Fashionista conditioner; back to Condition 3-in-1 mousse . Alternate days water rinse, conditioner and mousse.
  • jada1111jada1111 Posts: 829Registered Users
    That pretty much spells disaster for me. If I don't get products on while my hair is wet, & before my towel-- I usually do it right in the shower -- frizz begins almost instantly. I took off the towel & expected the worst. But nope, I had used my beloved GF Leave-in, & my hair actually looked more clumpy and no frizz yet. So I put on lots of B&A gel (which in the past, hasn't done much for me, certainly hasn't held up to humidity well) diffused 70% dry & ran out the door.

    An hour later I went into the bathroom at work, &... wow! Very defined, frizz-free, much bigger chunkier curls than in the past. And 2nd day hair almost better than the first, just with my usual 2 quarter-sized dabs of GF Leave-in applied with wet hands.

    It must be the GF, right? I'm wondering if it seals my hair enough to allow me to apply products to towel-dried hair, or if it's just that B&A works better this way than on very wet hair. Anyone have any similar experience?

    What is GF? :? Garnier Fructise?
    Jada1111

    HAIR TYPE: 4a all over/3c around nape/edges; Last relaxer -4/4/02; Big chop - 4/16/03

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  • CelticCurlsCelticCurls Posts: 558Registered Users
    Jada - yep, that's it. I can only get the Sleek & Shine up here, and since I'm 3B, that works for me.

    Wow. That is great some of you can use the GF alone. I think that's more a 2A-3A thing though. I am able to use GF as my single 2nd & 3rd day product though. It is just amazing in that respect.
    3B, bra-strap length
    laidback, very-modified CGer
    HG: GF Sleek 'n Shine Leave-in; Alagio
  • KristaRoseKristaRose Posts: 546Registered Users
    Krista, that's amazing that you can use nothing but GF Leave-in as a styler -- esp as you're a 3B. Do you live a really dry climate?
    Yes....lately very dry. I live in western PA and we have been experiencing zero to sub-zero weather, depending on windchill, and the heat where I work is a very dry heat. And speaking of wind....don't get me started! My hair is weirder than anyone else I know. When the wind blows, my hair blows straight up in the air. Funniest thing. I never notice this happening to people with STRAIGHT hair.
    3B
    Growing out from a pixie cut. Long process but I'm getting there.
  • LavenderCurlsLavenderCurls Posts: 1,477Registered Users
    jada1111 wrote:
    What is GF? :? Garnier Fructise?

    Yep .. but without the last "e" :lol: .
    CG-modified since 4/05
    2b/3a and 3b on occasion!
    Products: The hair aisle in my own cabinets. :roll:
    Best definition winner: KCCC
    Best volume winner: LOOB
  • HalfWavyHalfCurlyHalfWavyHalfCurly Posts: 907Registered Users

    curlyfran - GF has the Sleek and Shine leave-in and the Curl and Shine Leave-in. I think those are the only ones - they're the only ones I've tried anyway.

    There is also one for Color-treated hair, and that's the one I got a couple of weeks ago, but since I hated the smell (reminded me of soursop) I decided to add just a few drops of an essential oil (orange) and I don't know if that ruined it or maybe it was an "overkill" effect form having "washed" with a CO that had several e.o. already, but when my hair barely started to dry it looked like it was turning into a frizz ball. I decided to spray my hair lightly with another (liquid) leave-in and when my hair was fully dry and I "fluffed" it, it wasn't too bad.

    Despite looking pretty creamy I was surprised at how light it was, I actually had to use more than I expected to and it didn't weigh my fine hair down. I'll try again when using a different CO, I also suspect that because the bottle was new most of the orange oil may not have mixed well and most of it stayed at the top. If it still doesn't work I'll try to see if it'll mix directly with one of my gels so I don't have to over-manipulate my hair, having to layer products totally defeats the purpose for me. I've also already had success with another leave-in (and a couple of regular COs used as leave-ins) without need of anything else so I only bought this to see if it would actually be better than them.
    2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

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