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HELP! Over conditioned?

Today my hair feels too soft and greasy and is breaking, but I am also protein sensitive. What should I do?

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  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    Protein sensitive hair still needs some protein. When my hair gets oc'd I use a protein rich RO. I don't leave it on for any longer than it takes to work through my hair. Works great. Do a stretch test each time you wet your hair to monitor your protein/moisture balance.
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • Amethyst_KissesAmethyst_Kisses Posts: 67Registered Users
    Ml001 wrote: »
    Protein sensitive hair still needs some protein. When my hair gets oc'd I use a protein rich RO. I don't leave it on for any longer than it takes to work through my hair. Works great. Do a stretch test each time you wet your hair to monitor your protein/moisture balance.

    Can you elaborate on the stretch test

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  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organiccolorsystems.com%2Fthe-wet-stretch-test%2F" class="Popup

    This site has a pretty good set of instructions and results info - ignore their product suggestions, it's a site for professional colorists and they're pushing their own products. The info is good, though.
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • ssa79ssa79 Posts: 37Registered Users
    edit
    Hairtype: 2C-3A/Highly Porous/High Density
    Co-wash: Devacurl No-Poo
    Daily Conditioner: Devacurl One Condition
    Leave In: KCKT (still experimenting)
    Gel: KCCC (still experimenting)
  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    Not stupid at all, the abbreviations can be confusing at first. RO = rinse out conditioner.
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • ssa79ssa79 Posts: 37Registered Users
    edit
    Hairtype: 2C-3A/Highly Porous/High Density
    Co-wash: Devacurl No-Poo
    Daily Conditioner: Devacurl One Condition
    Leave In: KCKT (still experimenting)
    Gel: KCCC (still experimenting)
  • ErisedMarauderErisedMarauder Posts: 23Registered Users
    My hair feels greasy and over-moisturized, but when I do the stretch test it breaks without stretching. This happened after I stop using silicones. I just washed my hair with a sulphate free shampoo and used a conditioner that contained a little bit of silicone and it feels a bit better but is now dry at the ends.
  • CurlyB_CurlyB_ Posts: 126Registered Users
    ssa79 wrote: »
    Another question... is co-wash the same as no-poo? Is it better to use a conditioner or "co-wash" instead of a specific sulfate free cleanser like devacurl no-poo or is it the same difference?

    I've been asking myself the same! I can't really see a difference between no-pooing and co-washing - it feels kind of the same to me.

    But I hope some experienced CG can help us out and explain the difference :)
  • curlypriyacurlypriya Posts: 223Registered Users
    Co washing means washing with conditioner whereas No- poo ing means cleansing with a sulfate free & lather free cleanser... But it may contain other surfactants such as coco betaine or cocamidopropyl betaine .. Its less harsher than a low poo.. HTH :)
    Hair type-3A/B fine ,dense,normal porosity..
    LOW POO : SM Moisture Retention,TBS Rainforest Moisture shampoo
    NO POO-DevaCurl No poo
    COWASH-Suave coconut,Tressemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture,Vo5 kiwi Lime
    RO -DevaCurl One Condish,Shea moisture condish,Matrix Biolage CB
    LI- AO GVP protein balancing condish,SM thickening Yucca growth milk,SM Shea Butter Leave in
    Stylers - SM smoothie,Aveda Flaxseed Aloe Gel,Eco Styler (Protein and Olive oil),Deva Arc Angel
  • CurlyB_CurlyB_ Posts: 126Registered Users
    But the effect will be the same right? Like, i won't get build-up out of my hair either with no-poo nor with co-washing...?

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  • Jas76Jas76 Posts: 2,283Registered Users
    As long as you aren't using cones, you shouldn't get build-up. Now that being said - some people have build up issues from hard water, or from other ingredients, so you may still need to clarify once in a while. Some people alternate, co-washing sometimes and low-pooing others.

    It just takes a little experimentation!

    If you already have build-up, do a clarifying wash, then a DT, then go back to co-washing.

    I would suggest a PT if your hair is indeed "over-conditioned".
    2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

    Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
    clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
    Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
    RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
    LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
    Seal - MO or Jojoba
    DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
    PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
    Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
    Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing