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Maybe not protein sensitive?

itskyrstenitskyrsten Posts: 43Registered Users
I thought that my hair was protein sensitive because all he products that were drying my hair out was protein based. The curl enhancer and frizz control that I have now I'm almsot positive don't have proteins in it, yet my hair is still dry. I am so confused. My hair is constantly staying dry and frizzy. I have no idea how to fix it. Help.

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  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    Protein sensitive hair is generally described as "straw-like". If your hair is just dry and frizzy it probably needs more moisture. This is a good tut on doing a wet stretch test: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organiccolorsystems.com%2Fammonia-free%2Fsalon-hair-diagnostics%2Fwet-stretch-test%2F" class="Popup. Ignore the product recs they give, it's for a professional colorist and from a company pushing their products, but the how-to part and what it means is good.

    Are you low-porosity by any chance?
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • itskyrstenitskyrsten Posts: 43Registered Users
    I just did the test and it broke, so the description said it was lacking protein and moisture.

    and I just did the porosity test. I had done it before, but got confused by it. It seemed pretty smooth to me, so I guess I am low porosity. but the description of low porosity doesn't describe my hair. high-porosity does. Maybe I'm doing the test wrong. lol.
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Actually, I think texture is a better indicator of protein sensitivity. My fine/low porosity hair LOVES protein.

    You don't mention what products you're using. It would give people a better idea of what the problem is. Do you use shampoo?? DT?? Use products with a lot of chemicals?? It could be anything.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • itskyrstenitskyrsten Posts: 43Registered Users
    Shampoo and Conditioner: L'Oreal Evercreme

    Spray Gel: Suave Curl Enhancer Spray

    And then I had bought the L'Oreal eversleek frizz control and that makes my hair icky. The gel also hardens on my hair.

    I was using EO Products, from the shampoos to the styling products.They were okay for a while and then my hair started drying out more and more, so I stopped those.

    I've also used the Yes to Carrots. That didn't add enough moisture to my hair.

    Added: I try to stay away from the sulfates, cones, parabens, proteins, etc.
  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    I wasn't attempting to connect porosity and protein. I asked only because many people don't know how to help their low-po hair accept moisture.

    OP - to start repairing your hair, you might consider a light PT. This can even be just a protein rich conditioner. Your hair might be protein sensitive but still needs a little. Mine needs a protein-rich RO occasionally - any more than that, though, is way too much. Follow the PT with a good DT.
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • itskyrstenitskyrsten Posts: 43Registered Users
    would adding something like coconut oil and olive oil to a homemade leave in be okay?
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    itskyrsten wrote: »
    would adding something like coconut oil and olive oil to a homemade leave in be okay?

    Oil in and of itself isn't moisturizing. If your hair is fine and/or low porosity, it won't soak in at all--you could end up with greasy hair that you have to shampoo.

    Can't help you with products. I haven't used any you listed. My hair prefers the more natural products from the online, boutique type companies.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • tricellotricello Posts: 95Registered Users
    I have medium with some course texture thrown in and protein works well for me, though it’s not ideal because I also have dense hair. The protein gives me better and more uniform curls- probably because I have color damage. The trade-off is my already thick hair looks a little thicker.


    To the OP, use the search function to check out , sealing the hair, pH and closing the cuticle – it might be that you need to better seal your hair to eliminate frizz. Also, I am not sure what the L’oreal frizz control is – is that a serum? Maybe you need to add a leave-in versus yourcurl spray. For me, I cannot imagine not using a moisture based leave-in of some sort. Even before curly girl, that was a must do for frizz control.
    High Density, High Porosity, Medium Texture, 3B with some kink

    DT: SS DDMT - HG
    Lo-Poo: No Preference
    Co-wash: CJ Smoothing Conditioner
    RO: CJ Strengthening Conditioner - HG
    LI: CK Satin Roots
    Styler: CK Coil Jam
    Other Likes: Castor Oil; CK Twist Whip, MD CSC
    Dislikes: Wheat Protein; Aloe LIs or Stylers

  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    Do your products have glycerin in them?
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • DeshawnDeshawn Posts: 7Registered Users
    It seemed fairly sleek to me, so I think I am low porosity. but the information of low porosity doesn't explain my locks. high-porosity does.
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