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Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend, takes own life

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Reports: Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher kills girlfriend, takes own life | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports
Reports are still coming in regarding a tragedy involving the Kansas City Chiefs, but here's what we know at this time. Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher shot and killed his girlfriend at a house near the team's facility on Saturday morning. Yahoo Sports' Jeff Passan, who is on scene, confirmed the name of the player after speaking with local police.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    terribly sad. what could have been so bad?
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  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Novice
    I wonder whether he had a severe concussion or injury to his head in the past.

    Also, suicide is horrible to think about, but killing his girlfriend ??? That's murder. I can't feel that sorry for him because of what he did to her, but I feel sorry for his family and the girl's family.
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  • naturaldollnaturaldoll Posts: 567Registered Users
    ^^ and their baby :(

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  • sariroosariroo Posts: 1,958Registered Users
    I read that yesterday. It's very sad. I wonder what could have happened that he felt so hopeless that he ended both their lives. And how horrible that he killed himself in front of the KC Chiefs GM and coach (i think that is who it was, correct me if I'm wrong).
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  • WiregirlWiregirl Posts: 1,695Registered Users
    Just another angry man who gets paid millions of dollars to play sports!
  • curlyarcacurlyarca Posts: 8,449Registered Users
    Wiregirl wrote: »
    Just another angry man who gets paid millions of dollars to play sports!


    Um....no.

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  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Posts: 8,002Registered Users
    I just wish these men would have enough sanity left to shoot themselves FIRST.
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  • mcherycemcheryce Posts: 363Registered Users
    He probably didn't plan on the suicide part. Probably killed her then left. Realized what he had done, then decided to kill himself. But, we will never know unless he left a note or said something to his coach about it first.
  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    and i'm hearing their last argument was because she came in at 1 am from a trey songz concert. give me a break!!!! she has a 3 month old, she went to a concert. WHO CARES???? that poor baby girl. when she learns what happened, wow.
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  • fraufrau Posts: 6,130Registered Users
    LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Kasandra Perkins (photos below) and Jovan Belcher battled over their child, not a Trey Songz concert, hours before their murder-suicide, claims news reports. Kasandra Perkins did attend a Trey Songz concert and may have attended an afterparty hours before her murder. News reports tonight indicate that Perkins’ purported actions about the couple’s baby prior to the concert fueled Belcher’s argument.
    Trey Songz had nothing to do with the tragic murder suicide Saturday. And yet, false news reports are drawing Trey Songz into the discussion. He issued a news statement indicating “As sad as it may be, it has nothing to do with me. sending prayers up to the families and friends of the people involved”.

    Multiple reports claim that Perkins may have removed the couple’s child from the home before the concert. That didn’t sit well with Belcher, claims news.

    The Kansas City Star reports the couple did argue regularly. But there was no history of violence. “According to a friend of Kasandra Perkins, the woman killed today by Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher, the couple argued in the early morning hours after the woman was out late attending Friday’s Trey Songz concert at The Midland.”
    The Star added “The friend, who asked not to be identified, said Belcher confronted Perkins when she returned home about 1 a.m. The couple had dated about three years and argued frequently, the friend said, but she wasn’t aware of any prior physical abuse.”
    Deadpsin’s source, in contrast, indicates that Perkins allegedly removed the couple’s child from their home before the concert. The source also claims that the couple were battling in recent weeks about the child. “This was the result of a long term conflict. I’m referring to the rumors that this was solely related to an argument about her attending the Trey Songs concert… It wasn’t. Kasi had left and taken Zoe (their daughter) to a relative’s house without his consent and refused to come home.”
    Deadspin’s source claims that a child custody battle was brewing. “In addition to that she made it clear that she was leaving and wild (would?) contact a lawyer … It had little, if anything to do with one isolated argument.”
    Earlier, LALATE reported that Jamaal Charles’ wife is Perkins’ cousin. Today, Deadspin’s source says the couple had been arguing for weeks. “[On the Thursday night after the Nov. 12 Chiefs-Steelers Monday Night Football game] he came home and Kasi had taken the baby (Zoe) to Jamaal Charles residence because she is cousins with Jamaals wife Whitney. They had been arguing for quite a few weeks prior which was nothing new.”

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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    How awkward for Trey and what a F'd up situation.

  • SpiderSpider Posts: 3,380Registered Users
    Having a baby can throw the best couples into a maelstrom. So sad for the little one.
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    more disturbing details
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  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Posts: 8,660Registered Users
    That is so sad. I had a cousin who shot his wife then himself. They had 4 children who fortunately weren't home at the time.
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    i'm a football fan so i've been following this story closely. some websites were suggesting "roid rage" which for those that don't know comes from when people use steroids and literally go bizonkers.
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  • CurlyCurliesCurlyCurlies Posts: 1,641Registered Users
    I think all of the concussions that he, no doubt, sustained throughout years of playing football may have played a part, too.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Spider wrote: »
    Having a baby can throw the best couples into a maelstrom. So sad for the little one.

    I seriously doubt the baby or the fact they had a baby had anything to do w/ this.

  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    this article really struck a nerve. it really made me think of how some men act when a woman is pregnant and at her most vulnerable state. i'm sickened by this whole story and i think the author of the article says what many won't say. it's terrible. i know from personal experience that some men are downright mean and insensitive during what should be the most special time in a couples lives.
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  • murrrcatmurrrcat Posts: 9,596Registered Users
    luvmylocs wrote: »
    this article really struck a nerve. it really made me think of how some men act when a woman is pregnant and at her most vulnerable state. i'm sickened by this whole story and i think the author of the article says what many won't say. it's terrible. i know from personal experience that some men are downright mean and insensitive during what should be the most special time in a couples lives.

    Because mind you, Mr. Belcher managed to not kill his mother who was in the next room. He managed not to kill the security guard at the Kansas City Chief’s stadium. He managed not to kill his coach and the team manager. So were these some special “concussions” that only affected the part of the brain that deals with girlfriends?


    I was thinking that, if his mom was inthe house, .....and he shot her 9 times???

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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Springcurl wrote: »
    I just wish these men would have enough sanity left to shoot themselves FIRST.
    Murder-suicides like that are all about the murder, not the suicide. For some abusers, nothing is more important than controlling their victims, and the ultimate act of control is deciding whether someone lives or dies. So they commit the murder, and then kill themselves simply to avoid punishment. They're not suicidal, they're just that obsessed with being abusive.
    I seriously doubt the baby or the fact they had a baby had anything to do w/ this.
    In abusive relationships, pregnancy and childbirth tend to trigger even worse abuse. The abuser feels threatened by the fetus/baby, viewing it as a rival for the mother's love and attention.
  • fraufrau Posts: 6,130Registered Users
    if he was having financial issues (yeah, if you're driving a bentley while renting a home) then maybe that had more bearing on his mental state than all the other issues presented.

    not sure why race is being mentioned at all.
    there are many black football players across the nation and you don't see a rash of killing by black football players.

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    When Belcher arrived home at around 7 a.m., he and Perkins began arguing. Perkins was reportedly upset that Belcher had stayed out so late.
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    i'm sure the fact that he spent the night with this woman is what precipitated the argument.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Springcurl wrote: »
    I just wish these men would have enough sanity left to shoot themselves FIRST.
    Murder-suicides like that are all about the murder, not the suicide. For some abusers, nothing is more important than controlling their victims, and the ultimate act of control is deciding whether someone lives or dies. So they commit the murder, and then kill themselves simply to avoid punishment. They're not suicidal, they're just that obsessed with being abusive.
    I seriously doubt the baby or the fact they had a baby had anything to do w/ this.
    In abusive relationships, pregnancy and childbirth tend to trigger even worse abuse. The abuser feels threatened by the fetus/baby, viewing it as a rival for the mother's love and attention.

    I think Springcurl was just venting...
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  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Posts: 8,002Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Springcurl wrote: »
    I just wish these men would have enough sanity left to shoot themselves FIRST.
    Murder-suicides like that are all about the murder, not the suicide. For some abusers, nothing is more important than controlling their victims, and the ultimate act of control is deciding whether someone lives or dies. So they commit the murder, and then kill themselves simply to avoid punishment. They're not suicidal, they're just that obsessed with being abusive.
    I seriously doubt the baby or the fact they had a baby had anything to do w/ this.
    In abusive relationships, pregnancy and childbirth tend to trigger even worse abuse. The abuser feels threatened by the fetus/baby, viewing it as a rival for the mother's love and attention.

    I think Springcurl was just venting...

    Yes, I was.
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  • rileybrileyb Posts: 1,975Registered Users
    What is even more shocking is that ESPN and this guy's teammates/fellow players are paying tribute to him. Airing tweets about what a great guy and player he was, like he died in a car accident or something. People are having toasts to him outside his childhood home and paying tribute and they are airing them on TV. He KILLED HIS GIRLFRIEND, what the f are people celebrating? It's disgusting.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    ^^^Agreed. It reminds me of Penn State's support of Joe Paterno in the Sandusky scandal...Gross.
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  • CurlyCurliesCurlyCurlies Posts: 1,641Registered Users
    rileyb wrote: »
    What is even more shocking is that ESPN and this guy's teammates/fellow players are paying tribute to him. Airing tweets about what a great guy and player he was, like he died in a car accident or something. People are having toasts to him outside his childhood home and paying tribute and they are airing them on TV. He KILLED HIS GIRLFRIEND, what the f are people celebrating? It's disgusting.


    ^^I thought that was strange, too. If he hadn't committed suicide, he would be in jail now or trying to get a bond hearing. Would they be talking about how he was such a good guy then?

    I do kinda of get it, though. His friends and family don't want to believe that he was capable of something so heinous, so they have to try to explain away somehow.

    eta,
    When Belcher arrived home at around 7 a.m., he and Perkins began arguing. Perkins was reportedly upset that Belcher had stayed out so late.
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    i'm sure the fact that he spent the night with this woman is what precipitated the argument.

    It could be. I just read an article that said that, after a night of drinking & partying, he was camped outside of another woman's apartment at 1am, waiting for her to come home. (Someone called the police and the article had a report linked.) Apparently, he left there around 6:30 pm.

    According to the CDC, black women have a maternal homicide risk about seven times that of white women. Black women ages 25-29 are about 11 times more likely as white women in that age group to be murdered while pregnant or in the year after childbirth. /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2F2100-201_162-4009249.html" class="Popup

    Jeez, that's a grisly statistic.
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Springcurl wrote: »
    I think Springcurl was just venting...
    Yes, I was.
    Ah, ok. I just so frequently run into serious misperceptions about abusive relationships...
  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    911 calls released

    so i didn't know there was another woman in the pic. he was cheating? oh jeez!!

    i heard him being upset about her coming in late. i heard he wasn't a big spender and perhaps she wanted to spend more freely but he was driving a bentley (but supposedly their house was only $150K not bigger like some of the other players) and i heard that sense they were so on again off again she threated to take their daughter and leave, hire an attorney and all that.

    one article, maybe one i posted here said right before the shooting he said "you can't talk to me like that"....

    i heard that his mother loved her like a daughter and actually referred to her as such when she called 911. i think it's mind boggling that it was released that HIS mother would raise their daughter in long island where he grew up. i can't imagine her parents not wanting their slain daughter baby to raise. she was 22 so her parents could easily be in their 40's, still young enough to raise a child. they said she moved there like 2 years ago to be with him. maybe there was tension with her family since she was living in another state with a guy unmarried. even her close in age cousin that is married to belcher's teammate could make the case for taking the little girl to raise. it's just weird that the paternal grandmother, whose son murdered the mom is taking the baby.

    he definitely took the cowards way out. couldn't face going to jail and losing his daughter so he killed himself. i don't think for one second he woke up that day thinking he'd commit suicide. to shoot a person 9 times is pure rage. i mean honestly, push, shove, hit but to go to that extreme in an argument is pure evil. i wonder if there had been previous violence. nobody has said there was, maybe they're too ashamed they knew their was violence and didn't help her get out. i know her cousin who introduced her to belcher is probably reeling from this.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Springcurl wrote: »
    I just wish these men would have enough sanity left to shoot themselves FIRST.
    Murder-suicides like that are all about the murder, not the suicide. For some abusers, nothing is more important than controlling their victims, and the ultimate act of control is deciding whether someone lives or dies. So they commit the murder, and then kill themselves simply to avoid punishment. They're not suicidal, they're just that obsessed with being abusive.
    I seriously doubt the baby or the fact they had a baby had anything to do w/ this.
    In abusive relationships, pregnancy and childbirth tend to trigger even worse abuse. The abuser feels threatened by the fetus/baby, viewing it as a rival for the mother's love and attention.

    But so does stress at the job, so does the loss of a job, so do the holidays, so does frivolous shopping, so do random emails from exboyfriends, so does trying to end the relationship, so does a burnt meal...

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