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2a peeps . . . 3 Months In - There is HOPE! (pics)

tambalinatambalina Posts: 64Registered Users
11/21/12 marked my 3 month anniversary of my first CG experience. I'd thought I'd document my journey so that other "barely wavy" people can see what learning about your hair's properties can do.

Background:
I am half-Asian and half-Caucasian which means I have fine, medium and course hairs all over my head. There is no rhyme or rhythm to where they are or how they behave. My BSL+ hair was virgin until I dyed it with 2 boxes of Feria in June. Big mistake. So now I use henna and indigo to cover my grays.

This was my hair on August 13, 2012:

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And this was my first CG wash on August 21, 2012:

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This was when I diffused my hair successfully for the first time on September 11, 2012:

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By this time, I've been hitting my hair hard with moisture and occasional protein treatments that weren't as successful. Here is a pic from October 25, 2012 when I finally achieved some root curl:

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It finally dawned on me that I was getting over-conditioned, so I tried a few protein treatments. This was after IAGirl's gelatin treatment on November 6, 2012:

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And here is my (belated) 3-month anniversary pic on November 26, 2012 when I used Neutral Protein Filler:

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The point of all of this is to show you that learning about what your hair needs and using different techniques can do. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought I could go from this to this in a matter of 3 months:

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There *IS* hope out there, 2a wavies!!
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CG Journey Start Date: 08.21.12 Now modified CG
F/M texture, Med Density, Low/Normal Porosity, Hennindigo
Current Routine (Still working out the kinks):
Sulfate wash: CHSTS
Low-Poo: OMAO
CO-Wash: IEC, VO5VMT, TNRV
Rinse Out: YTCarrots, DLOO, Renpure Red, GVPCB
LI: YTCarrots, CCC
PT: NPF
Styler: AG:RC, KCCC, LALNC, FSG
Gel: BRHG+Biotera

Comments

  • dresdendolldresdendoll Posts: 435Registered Users
    What an amazing transformation! Your hair looks so healthy, and so much curlier. Definitely 2b and maybe even 2c or 3a. Looks lovely :)
    2c/2b with some 2a, coarse, dense, thick, low porosity
    Growing out a CL bob. Currently at APL.
    CG again as of 7/20/12 :laughing5:


    Cleanser: BRÖÖ Smoothing I.P.A. Shampoo
    RO: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Beautiful Curls Gel for Wavy to Curly Hair

    :love4: all-natural products, light moisture, humectants, argan oil
    :pukeright:silk protein, synthetic ingredients, heavy oils/products, cowashing
  • jsuzkelleyjsuzkelley Posts: 610Registered Users
    Wowza! That's incredible :)
    2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
    fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
    My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    CG since 12/29/2011 :laughing6:
  • ladymisswavyladymisswavy Posts: 24Registered Users
    Thanks for this post!! I am frankly losing hope for my hair. Nothing seems to work for very long :( What techniques are you using??
    2a canopy, 1c underneath, Medium Thick
    Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity
    Low Poo: MOP C-System Hydrating Shampoo, Alba Clarifying
    RO/LI: Deva One C/Renpure Argan
    Winter Stylers: Organix Curl Defining Cream, KMS Curl Up Control Creme, AIF, Pantene Curly Hair Mousse, Biolage Gelee, Deva Mirror Curls
    Summer: Switch from creams to jellies, KCCC, CIAB.
    CG since July 2011
  • tambalinatambalina Posts: 64Registered Users
    ::snip:: What techniques are you using??

    It varies, but this is my "tried and true" technique:

    Low-poo: Organix Moroccan Argan Oil shampoo
    Rinse Out: Biolage Conditioning Balm for at least 3 minutes, longer if I can (This is also the only time I will comb my hair!)
    Rinse w/ 1/2 gallon distilled water mixed with 1/4 cup Apple Cider Vinegar

    After I get out of the shower, I flip my head upside down and scrunch with a Aquis microfiber towel. (I can't use products w/ soaking wet hair. It weighs it down.)

    Leave-In: Kinky Curly Knot Today (nickle-sized blob) scrunched in upside down. I try to keep the conditioner away from my roots.

    Still upside down, I apply either Flax Seed Gel or Kinky Curly Curling Custard using pump and scrunch method. Don't forget to put *some* gel in the roots of the hair to add structure. And then I plop for 10 - 15 minutes with a flour-sack towel.

    After the first plop, I apply a strong hold gel. Lately, I've really like combining BioSilk Rock Hard Gelee with Biotera gel. I use about 3 pea-sized drops of BHRG with about a half dollar-sized pool of Biotera. And also scrunch and pump. Plop again for 20 minutes with a NEW (dry) flour-sack towel.

    After 20 minutes, I diffuse upside down (pixiecurl method) until I think my hair is about 80% dry. Then, I flip up and arrange the waves to create a part line. I clip the roots with little "butterfly" claw clamps and wait for my hair to dry COMPLETELY.

    Just SOTC with an oil (I use Monoi, coconut or sweet almond oils.) My hair will last 2 - 3 days wavy. :) HTH!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    CG Journey Start Date: 08.21.12 Now modified CG
    F/M texture, Med Density, Low/Normal Porosity, Hennindigo
    Current Routine (Still working out the kinks):
    Sulfate wash: CHSTS
    Low-Poo: OMAO
    CO-Wash: IEC, VO5VMT, TNRV
    Rinse Out: YTCarrots, DLOO, Renpure Red, GVPCB
    LI: YTCarrots, CCC
    PT: NPF
    Styler: AG:RC, KCCC, LALNC, FSG
    Gel: BRHG+Biotera
  • elizardelizard Posts: 284Registered Users
    i don't think i'd call you 2a anymore!
    2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
    medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
    hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

    low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
    RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
    stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
    DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF
  • CubanwavyCubanwavy Posts: 293Registered Users
    Wow your hair is beautiful.
  • FlipnwavyFlipnwavy Posts: 24Registered Users
    So then at what point do you use the neutral protein filler? I have had times where I think I had over-conditioned. Do you dilute it in a spray bottle? That's how I figured it is used.
    2C, Medium Density, Coarse--so I am assuming I am Low Porosity

    Low-poo: Queen Helene's Mint Julep mixed with Tresemme Naturals NM Condish, Trader Joe's Refresh
    Co-wash: VO5 HE Clarifying Condish Kiwi Lime, Tresemme Naturals NM Condish
    RO/LI: GFTN mixed with GVPCB, Tresemme Naturals NM Condish
    Stylers: Sally's Biotera Firm Hold Styling Gel, LALooks Sport Gel
    DT: Pre-poo with honey and coconut oil, low poo, ACV rinse, Sally's GVPCB mixed with GFTN
  • tambalinatambalina Posts: 64Registered Users
    Flipnwavy wrote: »
    So then at what point do you use the neutral protein filler? I have had times where I think I had over-conditioned. Do you dilute it in a spray bottle? That's how I figured it is used.

    After shampooing w/ SLS and *before* conditioning, I used NPF mixed 2:1 with distilled water in a spray bottle. Leave on for 20 minutes without rinsing and then condition. HTH!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    CG Journey Start Date: 08.21.12 Now modified CG
    F/M texture, Med Density, Low/Normal Porosity, Hennindigo
    Current Routine (Still working out the kinks):
    Sulfate wash: CHSTS
    Low-Poo: OMAO
    CO-Wash: IEC, VO5VMT, TNRV
    Rinse Out: YTCarrots, DLOO, Renpure Red, GVPCB
    LI: YTCarrots, CCC
    PT: NPF
    Styler: AG:RC, KCCC, LALNC, FSG
    Gel: BRHG+Biotera
  • AralAral Posts: 8Registered Users
    This is such an amazing transformation and it gave me hope for my hair too.
    I am trying to figure out CG but no luck so far. My hair is a mess!
    - 2 something, medium/high porosity, high density, medium/coarse
    - seborrheic dermatitis
    - lots of greys
  • WavyShmavyWavyShmavy Posts: 5Registered Users
    I had long lost hope for my 2a, fine, easily weighed down by the tiniest bit of product, hair. I have a very oily scalp and I've always found it to be a nightmare combination. Every now and then I browse the wavy section to see if I could find a miracle to help my hair. I feel like I've tried every mousse, gel, hairspray, diffusing method, to no avail.

    Last night when I read this thread and saw that you had used CNPF I thought...Hey, I've had that stuff laying around for months. Now that I know how to use it, I'll give it a shot. I diluted equal parts CNPF and water in a spray bottle. I washed my hair, towel dried, then sprayed a generous amount all over my head and left it on for 20 mins. I then rinsed out and followed with a light rinse out conditioner.

    Well, I will let the results speak for themselves.

    The photo on the left is how my hair looks most of the time after a bit of LA Looks Sport gel and a few minutes of diffusing just to get most of the moisture out.

    The photo on the right is the morning after the CNPF treatment. Last night I scrunched a quarter sized amount of LA Looks Sport Gel in it as usual and pixie diffused for a few moments so I wouldn't have to go to bed with sopping wet hair. Then...I slept on it...No plop, no pineapple, and this is how I woke up the next morning.

    :blob2::blob2::blob2::blob2::blob2::blob2::blob2:

    I've been CG for at least 2 years and was so disappointed to be only a 2a....and now this! :cheers:

    This is quite literally an overnight transformation!!!

    So, what do you all think? 2b???
  • Mimee03Mimee03 Posts: 190Registered Users
    I've been mod-CG for 11 months. I am totally jealous! :( Your hair looks thick though and mine is very thin. I SO wish my hair would curl up like yours!


    Hair type: 2a/2b. Fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity.
  • HouseofcurlsHouseofcurls Posts: 322Registered Users
    This makes me happy :love5: and SO MAD! You have been doing this as long as I have and have made such HUGE improvements. I acutally think my hair looks WORSE! :sad2::disgust:
    Rae ~ 2c/3a ~
    Wife to a 3c Curly Guy
    Mom to a straight and a curly.


    "The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

    Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
    CoWash: Tressemee naturals
    RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
    LI: Tresemee
    Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
    Always wash upside down.
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    Tambalina, thanks for posting your routine. I like to see how others do thier hair and see if I can use any techniques/order for my own. And im defintiely geeting the NPF this weekend. My hair adores protein, and seems like it could help perk up my hair! YAY to that:laughing8:
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • colleennoellecolleennoelle Posts: 5Registered Users
    That is amazing! You have beautiful hair.
  • tambalinatambalina Posts: 64Registered Users
    WavyShmavy wrote: »
    I've been CG for at least 2 years and was so disappointed to be only a 2a....and now this! :cheers:

    This is quite literally an overnight transformation!!!

    So, what do you all think? 2b???

    Definitely 2B/3A! Glad that NPF worked for you, too!!

    My hair gets weighed down easily, as well. I know it isn't CG, but sometimes a good sulfate wash can reset your hair. Plus, since you are regularly conditioning your hair, it doesn't damage it as much as you would think! Just give it a few drops of oil at the ends for a few nights. I do this every night as I am growing out my hair.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    CG Journey Start Date: 08.21.12 Now modified CG
    F/M texture, Med Density, Low/Normal Porosity, Hennindigo
    Current Routine (Still working out the kinks):
    Sulfate wash: CHSTS
    Low-Poo: OMAO
    CO-Wash: IEC, VO5VMT, TNRV
    Rinse Out: YTCarrots, DLOO, Renpure Red, GVPCB
    LI: YTCarrots, CCC
    PT: NPF
    Styler: AG:RC, KCCC, LALNC, FSG
    Gel: BRHG+Biotera
  • tambalinatambalina Posts: 64Registered Users
    Mimee03 wrote: »
    I've been mod-CG for 11 months. I am totally jealous! :( Your hair looks thick though and mine is very thin. I SO wish my hair would curl up like yours!


    Hair type: 2a/2b. Fine texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity.

    My ponytail is only 2.25 - 2.5" circumference. Protein is required daily.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    CG Journey Start Date: 08.21.12 Now modified CG
    F/M texture, Med Density, Low/Normal Porosity, Hennindigo
    Current Routine (Still working out the kinks):
    Sulfate wash: CHSTS
    Low-Poo: OMAO
    CO-Wash: IEC, VO5VMT, TNRV
    Rinse Out: YTCarrots, DLOO, Renpure Red, GVPCB
    LI: YTCarrots, CCC
    PT: NPF
    Styler: AG:RC, KCCC, LALNC, FSG
    Gel: BRHG+Biotera
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    I have been using the NPF mixed with my conditioners. ..but thinking I should use it by applying it straight to my hair...did you rinse out the mixture of NPF and water after the 20mins or just rewet your hair and sytle it as usually??? Ive read posts about both ways..but our hair seems similar. .

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using CurlTalk App
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • sroggesrogge Posts: 16Registered Users
    tambalina wrote: »
    ::snip:: What techniques are you using??

    It varies, but this is my "tried and true" technique:

    Low-poo: Organix Moroccan Argan Oil shampoo
    Rinse Out: Biolage Conditioning Balm for at least 3 minutes, longer if I can (This is also the only time I will comb my hair!)
    Rinse w/ 1/2 gallon distilled water mixed with 1/4 cup Apple Cider Vinegar

    After I get out of the shower, I flip my head upside down and scrunch with a Aquis microfiber towel. (I can't use products w/ soaking wet hair. It weighs it down.)

    Leave-In: Kinky Curly Knot Today (nickle-sized blob) scrunched in upside down. I try to keep the conditioner away from my roots.

    Still upside down, I apply either Flax Seed Gel or Kinky Curly Curling Custard using pump and scrunch method. Don't forget to put *some* gel in the roots of the hair to add structure. And then I plop for 10 - 15 minutes with a flour-sack towel.

    After the first plop, I apply a strong hold gel. Lately, I've really like combining BioSilk Rock Hard Gelee with Biotera gel. I use about 3 pea-sized drops of BHRG with about a half dollar-sized pool of Biotera. And also scrunch and pump. Plop again for 20 minutes with a NEW (dry) flour-sack towel.

    After 20 minutes, I diffuse upside down (pixiecurl method) until I think my hair is about 80% dry. Then, I flip up and arrange the waves to create a part line. I clip the roots with little "butterfly" claw clamps and wait for my hair to dry COMPLETELY.

    Just SOTC with an oil (I use Monoi, coconut or sweet almond oils.) My hair will last 2 - 3 days wavy. :) HTH!!

    How much KCCC do you usually use? And where do you all buy those oils for your hair? Thanks!
    2b, Fine, Low-Normal Porosity, Medium Density
  • tambalinatambalina Posts: 64Registered Users
    srogge wrote: »
    How much KCCC do you usually use? And where do you all buy those oils for your hair? Thanks!

    I use about 2-3 teaspoons of KCCC in damp (not wet) hair.

    You can definitely get sweet almond and coconut oils in a grocery or natural foods store. Monoi (fractured coconut oil) I purchase online. It comes in a variety of scents. My favorite is sandalwood. Most popular scents are vanilla and gardenia.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    CG Journey Start Date: 08.21.12 Now modified CG
    F/M texture, Med Density, Low/Normal Porosity, Hennindigo
    Current Routine (Still working out the kinks):
    Sulfate wash: CHSTS
    Low-Poo: OMAO
    CO-Wash: IEC, VO5VMT, TNRV
    Rinse Out: YTCarrots, DLOO, Renpure Red, GVPCB
    LI: YTCarrots, CCC
    PT: NPF
    Styler: AG:RC, KCCC, LALNC, FSG
    Gel: BRHG+Biotera
  • ladymisswavyladymisswavy Posts: 24Registered Users
    What is the Neutral Protein filler business? I have medium textured hair, so I have been avoiding protein, but I really don't know whether my hair likes it or not. But the results of the ladies who used it here are really gorgeous. So maybe it would help me with my weak waves? I do use Kpak once in a while, but it doesn't seem to have much effect, good or bad. I also tried the gelatin protein treatment, but that was really drying. Thanks!
    2a canopy, 1c underneath, Medium Thick
    Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity
    Low Poo: MOP C-System Hydrating Shampoo, Alba Clarifying
    RO/LI: Deva One C/Renpure Argan
    Winter Stylers: Organix Curl Defining Cream, KMS Curl Up Control Creme, AIF, Pantene Curly Hair Mousse, Biolage Gelee, Deva Mirror Curls
    Summer: Switch from creams to jellies, KCCC, CIAB.
    CG since July 2011
  • WeathercurlWeathercurl Posts: 228Registered Users
    I loved the photo "hairstory" (sorry) lesson! I have shorter, finer hair but similar improvement in curl after trying different things for a few months. Plopping really helps the curl in my case, along with lighter products and protein.

    As I am computer inept, posting pics is beyond me at this stage - I can barely figure out how to post a reply. Your hair is beautiful! Thanks for taking time to post pics.
    2b/2c ( weather permitting - 3a), fine texture but lots of it, colored and highlights, BSL.
    Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

    Current rotation:
    cowash= TN
    AG Gel Mousse, LA Gel,
    DT = Coconut oil (love)