Hair breakage in the crown area

GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
I have bad breakage in the crown area of my head. It's a complete handful of hair. I don't use heat at all on my hair and I deep condition my hair every other week. I sleep with a silk bonnet on my head every night. I use products with no mineral oil, parabens, cones or sulfates.

My hair in the crown area is very porous, dry and limp. I have done all types of moisturizing conditioning and protein treatments. It appears that I will have to cut my hair off to a TWA and start over. Has anyone else experienced this?

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  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    Here is a snippet of what it looks like. See the fullness around the thin area? Can't do it...

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  • triple_spiraltriple_spiral Registered Users Posts: 249
    When I've had breakage around the crown, it's usually detangling that is the culprit.....could that be it? How do you style your hair usually?
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  • poemaXXpoemaXX Registered Users Posts: 456 Curl Neophyte
    Here is a snippet of what it looks like. See the fullness around the thin area? Can't do it...

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    Gosh, I wonder if this might be hormonal hair loss? Have you had your thyroid levels checked lately? Abnormal thyroid levels can cause brittle hair.

    I'm sorry you're struggling with your curls. :(
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  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    When I've had breakage around the crown, it's usually detangling that is the culprit.....could that be it? How do you style your hair usually?

    I believe my Denman is part of the issue. He is now in the back of my closet
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    poemaXX wrote: »
    Here is a snippet of what it looks like. See the fullness around the thin area? Can't do it...

    ImageUploadedByCurlTalk1352974887.474674.jpg

    Gosh, I wonder if this might be hormonal hair loss? Have you had your thyroid levels checked lately? Abnormal thyroid levels can cause brittle hair.

    I'm sorry you're struggling with your curls. :(

    I haven't had anything checked lately because Im unemployed with no insurance. I appreciate the concern.
  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Registered Users Posts: 7,578 Curl Neophyte
    hey! i haven't been on the 4a forum in about a year since in have sisterlocks now but i did have a very similar thread with lots of replies. good luck!!
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  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    Thanks! The search feature on mobile sucks. I did a search and I got one thread and very few responses.
  • Tif-fro-neeTif-fro-nee Registered Users Posts: 62
    I'm sorry you are suffering from a thinning crown. From the pic, I would suggest a visit to the dermatologist to rule out alopecia or any other conditions. I have scarring alopecia, diagnosed in Jan. 2011. I actually self-diagnosed from reading a post on a natural hair care blog before I received my actual medical confirmation...lol. Anywhoo, I don't want to scare you, just thought I would put that out there. Whatever you decide to do, keep us posted....
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    I'm sorry you are suffering from a thinning crown. From the pic, I would suggest a visit to the dermatologist to rule out alopecia or any other conditions. I have scarring alopecia, diagnosed in Jan. 2011. I actually self-diagnosed from reading a post on a natural hair care blog before I received my actual medical confirmation...lol. Anywhoo, I don't want to scare you, just thought I would put that out there. Whatever you decide to do, keep us posted....

    I appreciate it. I'm unemployed right now. As soon as I'm able to get insurance I plan to visit the doctor and a dermatologist.
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    luvmylocs wrote: »
    hey! i haven't been on the 4a forum in about a year since in have sisterlocks now but i did have a very similar thread with lots of replies. good luck!!

    I read the thread and it was very helpful. I did purchase some Jamacian Black Castor oil today. Ill nurse it back to health. I believe my breakage is salvageable. I'm just glad I caught it early. My goal is healthy hair whether its short or long.
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    It's a number of variables that causes it that I'm remembering. I got a sew-in weave back in June of this year. It irritated me extra bad in that region and when my sister helped me take it down, she said my scalp was real red. My scalp burned in that area. Next the hair turned hard, so I would nurse it with oils and basically baby the hair in that region but used my Denman. I didn't pay attention to the small shedding. i cut my ends about a month ago. Hair in that region still hard so I continued to cove it up. Two weeks ago, used Carol's daughter products and had an allergic reaction which did include hair coming out. Then yesterday, I did a washngo and I tried to style my hair. The middle section was about half a finger in length and would NOT lay down, not even with Kinky Curly. My hair was limp and wiry looking. I looked like a curly haired Friar Tuck. That's what let me know I has to let that hair go and start over.

    This lets me know also that I cannot use rogue products without paying the price. I looked at the Wild Growth Oil and my gut was leery about it. I felt better with the JBCO so I rolled with it.
  • westndnbeautywestndnbeauty Registered Users Posts: 73
    OP hold off and cutting it and continue to watch it. From the pics, I don't think it is breakage. Looks like the hair is coming from the root (shedding) based on how visible your scalp appears.
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    I've already chopped it off. My hair wouldnt lay down and was HARD. I think it may be from the sew in weave and the allergic reaction I had to Carol's Daughter.
  • YltnelisYltnelis Registered Users Posts: 54
    I've already chopped it off. My hair wouldnt lay down and was HARD. I think it may be from the sew in weave and the allergic reaction I had to Carol's Daughter.

    How often are you using protein treatments (I saw that mentioned in your original post)? My hair cannot tolerate too much protein. My crown area has always been very dry and brittle compared to the rest of my hair, and it is very prone to breakage. Whenever I used a product with protein, that area would get even worse (hard, dry, brittle, etc). I've pretty much eliminated all products with protein at this point. It couldn't hurt to give that a try for a while and see if there's any improvement after removing protein from your regimen.

    My crown area requires a lot more pampering than the rest of my hair. I have to be extra gentle with it and it requires a lot more moisturizing than the rest. Honestly it sometimes feels like I'm working with two completely different heads of hair, that's how different my crown is from the rest. But that's the only way I've been able to get the breakage under control, and it seems to be pretty healthy at this point after much trial and error. Best of luck to you!
  • GoldenBlazeGoldenBlaze Registered Users Posts: 342
    Yltnelis wrote: »
    I've already chopped it off. My hair wouldnt lay down and was HARD. I think it may be from the sew in weave and the allergic reaction I had to Carol's Daughter.

    How often are you using protein treatments (I saw that mentioned in your original post)? My hair cannot tolerate too much protein. My crown area has always been very dry and brittle compared to the rest of my hair, and it is very prone to breakage. Whenever I used a product with protein, that area would get even worse (hard, dry, brittle, etc). I've pretty much eliminated all products with protein at this point. It couldn't hurt to give that a try for a while and see if there's any improvement after removing protein from your regimen.

    My crown area requires a lot more pampering than the rest of my hair. I have to be extra gentle with it and it requires a lot more moisturizing than the rest. Honestly it sometimes feels like I'm working with two completely different heads of hair, that's how different my crown is from the rest. But that's the only way I've been able to get the breakage under control, and it seems to be pretty healthy at this point after much trial and error. Best of luck to you!

    I did the protein treatments twice a month instead of once a month. I worked hard to keep my hair moisturized but that hair had no life and was breaking. I think that allergic reaction sent it on its death bed. My hair loves protein and moisture because I have fine 4a/3c hair.

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