Water-Soluble Silicone

WebDesignWebDesign Posts: 24Registered Users
Could anyone tell me the names of any conditioners containing water-soluble silicone? I've been searching all morning and now I'm overwhelmed with information!:read2:
Typical 3a! ;-)


  • Jpop825Jpop825 Posts: 169Registered Users
    Whoops, misread your post, so never mind
  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Posts: 872Registered Users
    I believe the Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition now has a water soluble cone or "a-cone".

    Also, a lot if conditioners are now using the altered water soluble cones. You will recognize them as either having a PEG next to the -methicone name.

    I'm baffled; however, at the conditioners that have multiple cones including the water soluble one. I can imagine the kind of buildup these conditioners are causing.
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    Water soluble silicones can be identified by a PEG or PPG in the name. There are a few others that don't follow this rule. Curl Chemist has an article with a table.

    In addition to the water soluble stuff, there are a few other non-traditional silicones. Cyclo-cones (begin with "cyclo") do not build up because they are designed to evaporate off of the hair during the drying process. Amodimethicone (a-cone) is not water soluble, but once it dries on your hair it repels further deposits of itself, so there is no buildup associated with regular use.

    As far as actual conditioners, I believe (it's been a while since I checked) that Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition and Sleek and Shine both contain the a-cone, their Color Shield and Length and Strength only use water-soluble cones, and Body Boost and Pure Clean are cone-free.

    I believe Renpure Keratin still only has a water soluble cone, but I would check the ingredients because I know they recently added a-cone to the Argan Oil formula.

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  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Posts: 872Registered Users
    I Found this article by Kenya Holmes:

    Different Kinds of Silicones

    Note: Not all silicones are created equal. Some are more water-soluble than others. They will be listed by NOT water-soluble, slightly soluble, and water-soluble.

    Not water-soluble: Cetearyl methicone, Cetyl Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Dimethiconol, Stearyl Dimethicone, Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride, and Trimethylsilylamodimethicone. Note: Trideceth-12 and Cetrimonium Chloride are only considered a silcone when both are combined with Amodimethicone.

    Slightly water-soluble: Amodimethicone, Behenoxy Dimethicone, and Stearoxy Dimethicone.

    Water-soluble: Dimethicone Copolyol, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane, and Lauryl methicone copolyol.

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  • Geek_ChicGeek_Chic Posts: 1,255Registered Users
    From Live Curly Live Free:

    "Silicones that are not soluble in water, but whose chemical properties allow it to repel further deposit, helping to prevent buildup (although they will still lock moisture out of the hair and require a surfactant to remove):

    • Amodimethicone
    • Cyclomethicone/Cyclopentasiloxane
    • Trimethylsilylamodimethicone
    A note about amodimethicone: if you do an Internet search on amodimethicone, you will find quite a few sites that list amodimethicone as a silicone that is "slightly" soluble in water as long as two additional ingredients are included in the formulation:
    Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride (as a mixture in the bottle)
    The assumption has always been that the inclusion of Trideceth-12 (a nonionic surfactant) and cetrimonium chloride (a cationic surfactant) render the amodimethicone, non-water soluble on its own, slightly soluble in water and it could be considered okay to use. Turns out that has been a completely incorrect assumption. What the Trideceth-12 and cetrimonium chloride do is render the amodimethicone dispersible in water. Once the amodimethicone is deposited onto the hair shaft and dries to a film, however, it is not water-soluble, will prevent moisture from getting into the hair shaft and will require a surfactant to remove.
    Silicones that are slightly soluble in water, but can possibly build up on some types of curly hair over time, include:
    • Behenoxy Dimethicone
    • Stearoxy Dimethicone"
    From the Curl Chemist ( Amodimethicone and other Amine-functionalized Silicones ):

    "The short answer is that these polymers are not water soluble. The silicone is provided to product manufacturers as a mixture of silicone/cationic surfactant/nonionic surfactant, which enables it to be readily dispersed into an aqueous formulation because this mixture is water soluble. However, once the product is used and the amodimethicone is deposited onto the surface of the hair and forms a film, it is not water soluble."
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  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Posts: 872Registered Users
    I don't use cones. At one point I was thinking about going back to using them during the winter. I hate cones and anything else that requires sulfates.

    I think the original poster wanted to know actual product names of water soluble cones. I want to know of some too.