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Baking soda and Apple Cider Vinegar makes it impossible to detangle my hair!

I really want to go no-poo and use the baking soda and apple cider vinegar rinse method. However, my hair is impossible to detangle! It feels almost stiff when I put the vinegar into my hair. I've only been doing this for a few days, but my hair is frizzy and not as curly as usual. Is this normal for the transition period? I use flaxseed gel as a styler.


  • Y3ssi88Y3ssi88 Posts: 132Registered Users
    I personally don't use baking soda for my hair the ph is extremely high and I read its bad for our hair. But I did read somewhere after using baking soda you need to put in a lot of moisture since it dries out the hair a lot. I only do the acv and water rinse.
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I agree. Baking soda is very harsh stuff!
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  • sarah.hawn.9sarah.hawn.9 Posts: 4Registered Users
    Do you find it hard to detangle your hair with ACV? It's my biggest struggle! I want to go completely product free, but I keep having to add conditioner to detangle. Is ACV too harsh to use daily?
  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    Consider using white vinegar or lemon juice as a rinse. What concentrations are you using? It should be about a tbsp of ACV to a cup of water. Same for bs. Bs will dry out your hair with regular daily use. If your hair likes protein, egg can be an effective wash - do some searching though to find recipes and tips (for example, rinse in lukewarm or cool water so as to not cook the egg in your hair...)

    You may need extra conditioning but you can get that from avocado, honey, avg...several different things you can try that your hair might like.

    Good luck!
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • sarah.hawn.9sarah.hawn.9 Posts: 4Registered Users
    Thank you! I have been using 1T of baking soda and 1T of ACV. I will try lemon though. Maybe the ACV is too heavy because it tends to take the curl out. I have curly but not kinky hair. I just want to be able to comb my hair without yanking it out. Conditioner always helped but it had to be a pretty moisturizing conditioner. So I'm definitely going to have to find something that conditions (my hair doesn't like a lot of oil. It's too heavy) since I don't want to use products. My hair feels so much more free and no build up!! So I'm definitely wanting to stay away from the products. Thanks again!
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,658Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Curl Virtuoso
    My hair does not like baking soda but loves vinegar.
    For a major detangling I put conditioner in my hair and finger comb it a little then add a vinegar rinse (a few tbl of cider or white vinegar in a mug of warm water) without rinsing out the conditioner. The 2 things combined seem to really help make my hair slippery and easy to detangle.
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    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, currently at mid back length when dry,  texture-medium/fine, porosity-top is low, middle is medium, ends are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, coconut oil, honey, vinegar.
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  • sarah.hawn.9sarah.hawn.9 Posts: 4Registered Users
    Thanks! Is there anything less harsh I could use as a daily rinse or conditioner? I hate store bought conditioners. I have even used organic... cone free and everything and I still feel like my hair is not "free". It builds up etc
  • jsuzkelleyjsuzkelley Posts: 610Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Have you looked at the "all natural hair care" forum? I bet you could find some good suggestions there.

    ETA: looks like a lot of people who make their own condish like ingredients like aloe vera juice, avocado, coconut milk, banana, honey, EVOO, yogurt, etc. I bet you can find some simple recipes in the "all-natural hair care" forum or the "recipes for hair and body" forum.
    2c/3a, botticelli/wavy/'swavy (huh?)
    fine, dense, normal porosity/elasticity, dry climate
    My favorite brands are Kinky Curly, As I am, Curly Kinks, Curl Junkie, and Darcy's Botanicals. Also love sealing with oils (loving argan oil right now) and styling with jelly products (KCCC is my current favorite). Mostly trying to keep it simple!

    CG since 12/29/2011 :laughing6:
  • KeihsKeihs Posts: 435Registered Users
    Have you tried oil rinsing?
  • Jkale80Jkale80 Posts: 1Registered Users
    I really want to go no-poo and use the baking soda and apple cider vinegar rinse method. However, my hair is impossible to detangle! It feels almost stiff when I put the vinegar into my hair. I've only been doing this for a few days, but my hair is frizzy and not as curly as usual. Is this normal for the transition period? I use flaxseed gel as a styler.

    I have been mostly poo free (shea moisture low poo 2X mo. and BS/ACV 2X mo. My hair is finally happy and the natural oils are under control as well (never oily between washes). After going natural, i found my front curls were a little limp and I have to define them with my fingers and a little FSG and let them dry. My theory is the hair near my face is a little finer and more effected by my hair's natural oils even though they do not look greasy.....

    I recently started doing a pea sized giovanni leave in after BS and ACV simply for better clumping and before my FSG or Aloe Vera Gel....helps for detangling tremendously.

    I have long 2C/3A hair.
  • ShubhoRShubhoR Posts: 107Registered Users
    Vinegar never helped me detangle. I need coconut oil or any conditioner on my ends to detangle. Vinegar helpes in light cleansing when I don't want to shampoo or co wash

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    HAIR TYPE -2a-b, black, mostly medium
    CLARIFY- I use sulphate shampoos silicone free(diluted), vinegar rinses
    DC-pure coconut oil, olive oil, sometimes a SMT
    LI-aloe vera gel + castor oil
    I'm currently at BSL, aiming for waist length.I'm a very impatient person, wish me luck :D
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  • wildharewildhare Posts: 1Registered Users
    hi Sarah! I had the same problem. Thought I wasn't able to do the baking soda and apple cider vinegar.did you use a clarifying shampoo before you started the no poo?very important to make sure your hair is clean to begin with. Makes a huge difference! Good luck!
  • a2jc4lifea2jc4life Posts: 17Registered Users
    I tried the bs/acv for about 2-3 months. It worked okay for the first month or so, but then it got awful. Awful, awful. I'm not even that curly, and I had to get hubby to brush my hair because I couldn't even get anything through it. He said it felt like my hair was greasy and dry all at the same time. :p

    That's not any help, I know - but it's definitely not just you!
  • Curls&AgapeCurls&Agape Posts: 52Registered Users
    ACV made my hair absolutely horrible. Ive never ever had such straw-like, tangled nightmare than when i did an ACV rinse. (and my hair doesnt actually usually tangle much). I honestly thought it was going to dissolve away or just eat my hair off...it was that bad. i frantically rinsed it, shoved every type of conditioner/leave in/oil i had within reach of me in the shower and rinsed and did it again. it was the shower from hell. ughhhhh. my hair just hated it!!

    Bi-carb on the other hand, works brilliantly in my hair strangely enough. ive been using it once a week to once a fortnight to give it a good product rid. my hair feels fuller and clean afterwards. I do one tablespoon of bi-carb to a large cup of very warm water, mix to dissolve and then pour slowly over my head focusing on all the parts of my scalp. it trickles down the rest. i leave it for about a minute or two and rinse. works a treat!

    I think everyones hair is totally different. I know so many ppl who swear by ACV or hate bi-carb... so you figure out what works for you and just run with it :-)

    PS i just de-tangle with a boatload of conditioner in my hair, and my fingers or afro comb whilst soaked.

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