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I don't see very many 2A's on here. Anyone with tips for a newbie?!

colormemichellecolormemichelle Posts: 16Registered Users
I found out all my info!

2A, Low Porosity, Medium Density, Medium Width. My hair is over a foot long.

So, any good products? The profile on my hair type said protein-free and lots of moisture! I would like to add volume to my hair, especially at the roots. Once in a while, it will form ringlets, but normally it's somewhere between a 2A and a 2B when I diffuse it. I will admit, I often go through with a curling iron to "fix" the straighter pieces.
2A-3A, Low Porosity, Protein-Picky

Currently:
Low-Poo: L'Oreal EverCreme Moisturizing Shampoo
CO-Wash: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
RO: L'Oreal EverCreme Intense Moisturizing Conditioner
DT/LI: L`Oreal EverSleek Smoothing Deep Conditioner
PT: Hask Henna 'n Placenta
Styler: L'Oreal Everstyle Curl Activating Mousse, LA Bella Curl Gel, TRESemme Hairspray

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  • colormemichellecolormemichelle Posts: 16Registered Users
    To clarify, I should say that I don't WANT to use the curling iron anymore. I haven't for the past few days because I'm trying to transition my hair to CG!
    2A-3A, Low Porosity, Protein-Picky

    Currently:
    Low-Poo: L'Oreal EverCreme Moisturizing Shampoo
    CO-Wash: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
    RO: L'Oreal EverCreme Intense Moisturizing Conditioner
    DT/LI: L`Oreal EverSleek Smoothing Deep Conditioner
    PT: Hask Henna 'n Placenta
    Styler: L'Oreal Everstyle Curl Activating Mousse, LA Bella Curl Gel, TRESemme Hairspray
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    Welcome! I wish I could offer you some advice- I know that low-porosity hair has its own set of challenges. I've seen a number of lower porosity wavies layer products. And super hard hold gel is a beloved product.

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    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • anonymous_125408anonymous_125408 Posts: 45Registered Users
    I was noticing the same thing, that there aren't too many of us. I'm pretty new to this, I always knew my hair had some bend to it but I usually blow-dried it out pretty easily. But I did notice that the days I let it air dry (twisting into a couple buns to accentuate the wave) or when I was at the beach, it really gets a nice texture! So far all I've done is made my own sea salt spray, but am looking at committing to no sulfates, maybe even co washing. Just haven't done it yet!
    2a/b, high porosity, fine strands, average density, just about shoulder blade length

    My hair loves moisture!

    currently mod-cg , using low-poo and not totally cone-free yet. I'll get there though!
  • WavesnWheelsWavesnWheels Posts: 64Registered Users
    My hair is a combo of 2a/2b/2c with similar attributes as yours. I've found that every time that I do a deep moisturizing treatment, my hair seems to get a little bit curlier.

    If your hair is the type that needs protein however, protein treatments often perk up curls too.
    2B, normal porosity, elasticity, thickness, texture, moisture loving, protein leery...
    Favorites:
    CO: Whole Foods Lavender Conditioner
    LO: Dessert Essence Coconut, Pure and Basic Clarifying Shampoo
    RO: SSDDMT
    DT: JCDCT, SSDDMT
    Style: AOMM, CCCL, KMFUM, KCTT
  • Ml001Ml001 Posts: 354Registered Users
    I am similar. I definitely recommend CG! I have found my greatest success with Curl Junkie smoothing conditioner, kinky curly as a Leave in (sometimes I use the CJ as the leave in as well and it works great), and Kinky Curly Curling Custard. I need occasional light protein and for now I use aloe Vera gel for that boost - it seems to work the best. My best results seem to be when I apply the gel to damp hair. Oh, and I use DevaCurl no poo for cleansing - every 4-5 days.

    Low porosity: Rinse with warm water for several minutes to open cuticle then let conditioner sit on hair for a few minutes. today i applied a shower cap and let the water run over it to help heat things up then left it on for a few minutes before rinsing conditioner out. also apply leave in while still in shower.

    Good luck - that you know your hair properties is a good start. :)
    remember, with all advice or suggestions for your hair, YMMV!! :read2:
    My hair:
    2b wavy, medium texture, low porosity, med-high density. Protein finicky.
    My routine:
    Cleansing: DCNP, every 4-5 days (occasionally use CJ cleansers).
    RO: CJSC, occasionally use JCDC
    LI: KCKT or CJSL
    Gel: KCCC, CJCIAB for 2nd day hair (sometimes third)

    Heat is my friend: warm water rinses, steam caps, and diffuse dry. I love CLU cloths and my Denman.
  • HairObsessedHairObsessed Posts: 138Registered Users
    I'm lead to believe that low porosity hair doesn't like protein too much. Though if your hair is damaged, it can help quite a bit...

    I stick to all drugstore products. I really like Aussie Instant Freeze Gel, but it tends to get crunchy, so SOTC is a must. I like Renpure shampoo (the green and red bottles), I feel like it cleanses my hair without stripping it of moisture. But there are a lot of people that don't like it. I use either VO5 or Suave naturals conditioners for co-washing.

    And as tempting as the curling iron is (I know, I "fix" a few waves with it every once in a while). It's really only damaging your hair and hindering your progress!

    Hope this helps! And have fun trying out new products. :)
    Wave Pattern: 2A
    Hair Properties: Normal/Low Porosity, Medium Density, Medium Texture w/Fine Straight Underlayer
    Co-wash: Suave Naturals, Cure Care
    Low-poo: Renpure Brazilian Keratin
    Rinse Out & Leave In: Tresemme Naturals
    Gel: LA Looks Mega Mega Hold Gel, Garnier Fructis Spray Gel
  • KeihsKeihs Posts: 435Registered Users
    I'm looking for products, too. Right now, I'm just using Suave for CO, but I'm still looking for a rinse-out and other products that will encourage my waves. I have the LALSG, but haven't tried it enough, though I heard it's pretty good.
  • saralacysaralacy Posts: 56Registered Users
    ya 2as UNITE! how do we get a forum set up just for 2as? I notice that the 3s have individual forums. like 3a,3b,3c why cant we have that. Its very difficult to sift through the 2 forum because what works for 2c is probably not going to work for my very weak weak wave. Sorry thats my rant for the day.
  • saralacysaralacy Posts: 56Registered Users
    oops i forgot how do yo 2as have your haircut?
    length
    layers,alot or just a few
    hair texture,fine,coarse,medium
  • HairObsessedHairObsessed Posts: 138Registered Users
    Other hair properties are usually more important for styling purposes rather than wave pattern. I'd rather have all the wavies on one forum than having to look through 3 different ones! :)

    My hair is cut into long layers. My underlayer is stick straight, so it's cut a tiny bit shorter so that it isn't longer than my wavy hair.
    Wave Pattern: 2A
    Hair Properties: Normal/Low Porosity, Medium Density, Medium Texture w/Fine Straight Underlayer
    Co-wash: Suave Naturals, Cure Care
    Low-poo: Renpure Brazilian Keratin
    Rinse Out & Leave In: Tresemme Naturals
    Gel: LA Looks Mega Mega Hold Gel, Garnier Fructis Spray Gel
  • shellyRN07swavyshellyRN07swavy Posts: 309Registered Users
    Hi, I definitely recommend going full CG first off… I am only few months into CG myself. I have my hair listed as 2b/c but I first started out as a 2a!!!.. Going CG has dramatically changed MY hair, before I always thought I had big, frizzy, unruly straight hair. I had no idea my hairs potential, no one in my family has curly hair!!! I have read tons of discussions on products and routines, and have figured out the best one for MY hair. You can see the products I use and from my picture how much they have encouraged my wave/curl (YAY!!!). its a hard road to start, but its worth it in the end. I did get frustrated a few times, and tried to straighten my hair. Well I hated it and actually co-washed it to wear it curly instead!!!!! Never would have thought!!! Best of luck to you!!!
    2b/c CG since 8/12
    I have low porosity and fine/med texture. Easily weighed down and VERY frizzy crown, with straighter under layers

    Low-poo:TJ TTT, CJ GCS
    LI/RO/DC: CK Satin Roots,Sevi Pumpkin, SSI Okra reconstructor, CJ SAC,CJ RM
    Stylers: AG Recoil, JC SS
    Jellies: CK Coil Jam, Okra gel(HG)
    Gel: JC CC, Ouidad H&H gel, Ouidad moisture lock gel

    Hair loves moisture:love3: protein.
    MUST Pixie diffuse.

    My hair dose NOT like oils, butters or polyquats:twisted: Or glycerin in high dews
  • curly1curly1 Posts: 25Registered Users
    Hello fellow 2A'ers! My hair is very fine, fly-away and w/out product, lifeless. I had a hair routine all mapped out til the weather change....now it's gone haywire again. I need more moisture but then get too much so I need protein treatments too. I enjoy being cg and my hair has been the healthiest it's ever been but you most def have to give it time and be patient. I use thickening mousse but also switch it up with biotera gel and curl cream. Seem to rotate them out on a wkly basis lol. I enjoy being a wavy. We have the most versatile hair for sure. We can gel, scrunch and diffuse for more curls/body or straighten at will.
    2b, fine, thin, mod cg
    loves protein!
    Currently using:
    cowash: vo5 tea therapy
    r/o: biotera volumizing condish, gvp cb
    l/i: biotera leave-in
    styling: biotera styling gel, curl cream, btz thick enuff cream/mousse
    winter styling: btz thick enuff mousse, got2b curling mousse, kenra texturizing putty
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm lead to believe that low porosity hair doesn't like protein too much. Though if your hair is damaged, it can help quite a bit...

    I stick to all drugstore products. I really like Aussie Instant Freeze Gel, but it tends to get crunchy, so SOTC is a must. I like Renpure shampoo (the green and red bottles), I feel like it cleanses my hair without stripping it of moisture. But there are a lot of people that don't like it. I use either VO5 or Suave naturals conditioners for co-washing.

    And as tempting as the curling iron is (I know, I "fix" a few waves with it every once in a while). It's really only damaging your hair and hindering your progress!

    Hope this helps! And have fun trying out new products. :)

    As others have said, hair properties are much more important then curl type for choosing ingredients/products. Curl type is transient. Before I came on nc.com and learned how to use product/technique, I was a winter wavy/summer 3a. Now my hair looks like my signature picture every day, all year around.

    The only place that I've read about low porosity not liking protein is on the nc.com hair property page, which is why I don't use that link when suggesting people determine their properties. My fine/low porosity hair never met a protein it didn't like. I do at least one PT a week and use a lot of products with protein. For me, it reduces frizz and tightens curl.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • colormemichellecolormemichelle Posts: 16Registered Users
    My hair is cut long with lots of choppy layers. My hair stylist just kind of went in and chopped at it. It perked it up right away!! I'm aiming for belly-button length, but I have 7 inches of waves/curls left to go!!
    2A-3A, Low Porosity, Protein-Picky

    Currently:
    Low-Poo: L'Oreal EverCreme Moisturizing Shampoo
    CO-Wash: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
    RO: L'Oreal EverCreme Intense Moisturizing Conditioner
    DT/LI: L`Oreal EverSleek Smoothing Deep Conditioner
    PT: Hask Henna 'n Placenta
    Styler: L'Oreal Everstyle Curl Activating Mousse, LA Bella Curl Gel, TRESemme Hairspray
  • colormemichellecolormemichelle Posts: 16Registered Users
    I did a protein treatment this morning (Henna & Placenta) just because I had noticed my waves/curls not perking up as much as they had been. My hair feels fluffier and is holding better today. When I used protein before, my hair did NOT like it. It probably didn't need it. I've also been taking vitamins D, E, B-complex, and Omega-3 Oils for my hair.

    I dyed my hair using semi-permanent (and substituting my own conditioner!) and after a few days my waves were waving. I've been full curly-girl since the end of August now, and modified curly girl for over a year (unknowingly!). My hair is only 2A/B when it air dries. When I use the diffuser (every day...) It ranges from 2A-2C with ONE huge 3A curl in the back (revealing the worst 2A section)! Ha!

    I keep trying to convert all of my co-workers to curly girl. Hopefully I'll get through to them. My hair is basically never frizzy. I have to use the curling iron still, but really just for my bangs. I've been working on growing them out since this summer, but if I do not adjust them with heat, I'd have little waves sticking straight out of my scalp!
    2A-3A, Low Porosity, Protein-Picky

    Currently:
    Low-Poo: L'Oreal EverCreme Moisturizing Shampoo
    CO-Wash: L'Oreal EverCreme Cleansing Conditioner
    RO: L'Oreal EverCreme Intense Moisturizing Conditioner
    DT/LI: L`Oreal EverSleek Smoothing Deep Conditioner
    PT: Hask Henna 'n Placenta
    Styler: L'Oreal Everstyle Curl Activating Mousse, LA Bella Curl Gel, TRESemme Hairspray
  • ladymisswavyladymisswavy Posts: 24Registered Users
    This thread is awesome! HairObsessed - I think you might be my super hair twin. Since you like LAL Spray Gel I want to try - how do you use it, exactly?

    Back to Colormemichelle's request for advice . . . I am still really trying to figure out as nothing seems to work for very long. But I would definitely recommend trying KCCC. I thought it would weigh me down but it gives me a ton of curl enhancement/definition. The only issue I have is that I think I need to rotate it out with other stuff because it can weigh down over time. Give it a try!
    2a canopy, 1c underneath, Medium Thick
    Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity
    Low Poo: MOP C-System Hydrating Shampoo, Alba Clarifying
    RO/LI: Deva One C/Renpure Argan
    Winter Stylers: Organix Curl Defining Cream, KMS Curl Up Control Creme, AIF, Pantene Curly Hair Mousse, Biolage Gelee, Deva Mirror Curls
    Summer: Switch from creams to jellies, KCCC, CIAB.
    CG since July 2011
  • HairObsessedHairObsessed Posts: 138Registered Users
    Ladymisswavy, I love spray gel in general. So much easier to apply evenly than regular gel!

    I scrunch as much water out of my hair as possible, turn my head upside down over the bathtub (this stuff can get the floor sticky) and spray quite a bit of it over the length of my hair. Scrunch and then plop. A lot of days I use the spray gel and a hard hold gel too.

    One warning, it have an ingredient it in it that some people find drying and can leave hair frizzy. I think it's the magnesium sulfate. Though it actually enhances the ways in my hair without any negative side effects. I also really like the Garnier Fructis spray gel, which doesn't have that ingredient in it.

    I'm considered KCCC for a while now. Maybe I'll actually get around to trying it. :)
    Wave Pattern: 2A
    Hair Properties: Normal/Low Porosity, Medium Density, Medium Texture w/Fine Straight Underlayer
    Co-wash: Suave Naturals, Cure Care
    Low-poo: Renpure Brazilian Keratin
    Rinse Out & Leave In: Tresemme Naturals
    Gel: LA Looks Mega Mega Hold Gel, Garnier Fructis Spray Gel
  • claudine19claudine19 Posts: 4,486Registered Users
    I'm a 2a/b (mostly), and the advice I'd give is: Don't fight it! Don't waste time, money and effort trying to get your hair to curl or wave more than it wants to. I did, and I regret it.

    A loose wave is wonderful, although I love curls of every type.
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    Dogs and nature abhor a vacuum.
    http://geaugadoggy.wordpress.com
  • saralacysaralacy Posts: 56Registered Users
    claudine i have 2a fine hair with normal porosity and low elastisity. i am so frustrated and disapointed in all the work ive put into my hair it is very tiresome. now onto my point, i would be totally tickled to just let my hair be and do its own thing but its own thing it does is it wont be straight but yet it wont settle into even the slightest wave its more bendy and looks messy in a not brushed your hair in a week. and yes i follow the curly girl method although i have not had any change since day one. well of course my hair is healthier but i was hoping for more of a change after 2yrs. suggestions for dealing with this type of hair? does anyone else feel this way?
  • ladymisswavyladymisswavy Posts: 24Registered Users
    sarahlacy - I kinda feel like you = 1.5 years since going CG and my hair does not look that much better. But I agree - going "natural" is not really an option either because our hair does not just straighten.

    HairObsessed - thanks for your post! I decided not to try the spray gel because my hair hates mag sulfate. HATES! But I do want to find a good spray gel cause I agree it could be easier to apply. I tried Pantene Curly Hair Spray Gel, but it does not have enough hold at all.
    2a canopy, 1c underneath, Medium Thick
    Medium Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity
    Low Poo: MOP C-System Hydrating Shampoo, Alba Clarifying
    RO/LI: Deva One C/Renpure Argan
    Winter Stylers: Organix Curl Defining Cream, KMS Curl Up Control Creme, AIF, Pantene Curly Hair Mousse, Biolage Gelee, Deva Mirror Curls
    Summer: Switch from creams to jellies, KCCC, CIAB.
    CG since July 2011
  • TaigaTaiga Posts: 14Registered Users
    This thread is awesome! HairObsessed - I think you might be my super hair twin. Since you like LAL Spray Gel I want to try - how do you use it, exactly?

    Back to Colormemichelle's request for advice . . . I am still really trying to figure out as nothing seems to work for very long. But I would definitely recommend trying KCCC. I thought it would weigh me down but it gives me a ton of curl enhancement/definition. The only issue I have is that I think I need to rotate it out with other stuff because it can weigh down over time. Give it a try!


    What do you switch it around with?
  • TaigaTaiga Posts: 14Registered Users
    I think im a 2A wave, with low porosity i think, im not sure because after i shampoo my hair gets really dry and big and f;luffy but after 3-4 days of not washing it gets oily in the roots. And my hair if only wavy in the front and the back side less so. my wave stays only for a while after i wash it and slowly it turns into poofy. Since my hair isn't as curly as everyone else's i was afraid using some of the products would make my hair greasy and weighed down. But i also wanted to start the CG method so i was wondering if anyone of you could suggest a start up product or list of few things i should may be try. I was thinking of the KCKT and KCCC since evryone has been raving about it, but everyone';s is super curly so im a bit reluctant.
    After ive researched the Cg im planning on 1. Clarifying shampoo 2. after that start a Low-poo (maybe Shea Moisture)3. and maybe cycle it with co-wash (sauve natural coconut or as i am co wash) 4. leave in (KCKT or As i am ) and 5. styling (KCCC and the gel)

    These are my tentative plan. Please suggest any product that might help. Tell me if some might be heavy and also when you use gel does it harden the hair?? Thank you
  • TaigaTaiga Posts: 14Registered Users
    I think im a 2A wave, with low porosity i think, im not sure because after i shampoo my hair gets really dry and big and f;luffy but after 3-4 days of not washing it gets oily in the roots. And my hair if only wavy in the front and the back side less so. my wave stays only for a while after i wash it and slowly it turns into poofy. Since my hair isn't as curly as everyone else's i was afraid using some of the products would make my hair greasy and weighed down. But i also wanted to start the CG method so i was wondering if anyone of you could suggest a start up product or list of few things i should may be try. I was thinking of the KCKT and KCCC since evryone has been raving about it, but everyone';s is super curly so im a bit reluctant.
    After ive researched the Cg im planning on 1. Clarifying shampoo 2. after that start a Low-poo (maybe Shea Moisture)3. and maybe cycle it with co-wash (sauve natural coconut or as i am co wash) 4. leave in (KCKT or As i am ) and 5. styling (KCCC and the gel)

    These are my tentative plan. Please suggest any product that might help. Tell me if some might be heavy and also when you use gel does it harden the hair?? Thank you
  • freygalfreygal Posts: 7Registered Users
    I find SM products to be heavy. I think there is a learning curve to KCCC. Have liked As I Am Leave-in condish.

    I posted about this on it's own thread, but in case you didn't go there, I've just tried MopTop products and they have made a huge difference in my frizz level. For the first time I'm not feeling product build up. On their web site you can order a sample bundle of products for $8. I ordered the More is More because you get more product, free shipping on samples. They are having a sale till the end of the Oct. 2016, 20% off with code ANNUAL20.

    2a/2b, fine, porous, colored, dry, frizzy
  • freygalfreygal Posts: 7Registered Users
    I find SM products to be heavy. I think there is a learning curve to KCCC. Have liked As I Am Leave-in condish.

    I posted about this on it's own thread, but in case you didn't go there, I've just tried MopTop products and they have made a huge difference in my frizz level. For the first time I'm not feeling product build up. On their web site you can order a sample bundle of products for $8. I ordered the More is More because you get more product, free shipping on samples. They are having a sale till the end of the Oct. 2016, 20% off with code ANNUAL20.

    2a/2b, fine, porous, colored, dry, frizzy

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