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how are curls unprofessional?

Posting a lot of thread this afternoon....lol....

Just curious, but I have seen a few comments about how curls are not appropriate for work. This confuses me..... what type of jobs have this? Why would it be seen as unprofessional? It is genetics.....isn't it like saying my shortness is not appropriate for my job? Or my freckles are unprofessional?

Someone enlighten me how something you have NO control over would be considered bad for a job..... am I just really naieve or something?
CG since 6/2012

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  • Jpop825Jpop825 Posts: 169Registered Users
    I think a company can be sued for discrimination for that, and should be
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  • MissKrisMissKris Posts: 288Registered Users
    Never seen a company like that b4. Curls are unprofessional?? I've never heard this one...



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  • whisper_hotshotwhisper_hotshot Posts: 52Registered Users
    well maybe for a modling... or to some digree cooking and having to put up your 'frizzy crazy wild hair'.. lol idk this is what ran thro my head reading this thread :p
  • DepressedCurlsDepressedCurls Posts: 836Registered Users
    They sometimes steer from it because it comes off as unkept and ungroomed. And sometimes distracting.
  • greytmommygreytmommy Posts: 125Registered Users
    I SWEAR I have read passing comments on here about not fixing hair curly b/c of work.
    I don't think I am delusional....... but it is possible. :-P
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  • PerriPPerriP Posts: 6,613Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I remember that thread, too. And I think it is seen as "not as professional" as straight hair (for the reasons mentioned above). I, of course, disagree :)



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  • capellifelicicapellifelici Posts: 26Registered Users
    Wow never heard of that one before. Crazy. Disappointing. Sad =\

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  • crazycurlychickcrazycurlychick Posts: 344Registered Users
    In my opinion curls can be seen as very professional because with minimal effort you can create a nice updo or something else because curls just look "dressy"


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  • DepressedCurlsDepressedCurls Posts: 836Registered Users
    I work at walgreens and ruby Tuesday and it's very different. Walgreens embraces my curls. I'm constantly complimented. As for ruby Tuesday, where i have to dress up very modern and dressy, it's sometimes looked at as bringing my look down or not going with the sleek look of outfit ect. The updos are normally okay but if i wear it down, it's 50/50 on if it'll be okay or criticized for seeming unkept. Sigh. Love my curls anyways. :)
  • AngryLobsterAngryLobster Posts: 37Registered Users
    I graduated college this year and had some lady at a coffeeshop tell me I'd better get a more professional look in order to get a job! Needless to say, I sent some serious grumpy vibes in her direction.
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  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    The only time I wear my hair curly at work is on weekends when my boss isn't around and I'm having a low key day where I'm staying in the office. But about a week ago he came in unexpectedly and I had actually forgotten I was wearing curls until he made a comment of about my hair being poofy. There are a few other curlies who as far as I know only do on weekends.
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  • Auntie BubbsAuntie Bubbs Posts: 1,068Registered Users
    Curls can be perceived as unprofessional, however, a company cannot discriminate based on whether someone's hair is curly or straight. That means in hiring, and in making comments on someone's personal appearance after someone has gotten a job.
    Likewise, a woman with curly hair cannot be made to wear her hair straightened just because the look is perceived to be more professional than curly hair, and she cannot be made to wear her hair up, or tied back. A person - male or female - can be asked to maintain a clean, professional, groomed appearance, and that is all. For men that refers to facial hair and the length of their hair (usually if they have long hair, it must be neatly cut, and sometimes tied back), for women that usually refers to tidiness of their hair. Frizz is a natural hair property, however, so a company can't say to a woman: your hair is frizzy, we don't allow that, do something about it. Just like they can't say, dye your grey roots, we don't allow you to have grey roots, it's not professional.
    In general, hair has to be washed, not greasy, and not uncombed. Technically it doesn't even have to be styled; a woman can just tie it back, or she can trim it herself so that it looks neat (easier for a woman with straight hair to do, I think).

    Now, the nicer your hair looks, and the nicer you dress, the better your overall professional image is, and the better kinds of jobs you might be able to get, or the better your chances of promotion, etc. But that relates to overall image, and IMO overall image is just a part of the whole, of which ability is a larger part. I personally don't subscribe to the faction that immediately leaps to the assumption that there's curl discrimination in the workplace, but that's because I've never experienced it. I've never had a boss or a coworker ever make a negative comment on my curls in over 20 years. Not saying it doesn't happen, of course. Just that I haven't had it happen to me. :)
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  • elizardelizard Posts: 284Registered Users
    I don't think it has to do with the curls per se but rather having unkempt hair. A lot of curly girls do not know how to manage their hair. Some straight girls don't either and that's not professional! I know I've gone in with second day hair in the past that looks a mess. As long as your curls are nicely maintained you shouldn't have a problem. My 2 cents.
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  • StellarCurlsStellarCurls Posts: 159Registered Users
    I think part of my personal reasoning behind occasionally straightening for job interviews is that when I straighten (which I do maybe once a month or once every other month), I know exactly what to expect. When my hair is curly, it's a free-for-all whether it will look nice or messy.
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  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 9,001Administrators, Moderators Administrator
    I think part of my personal reasoning behind occasionally straightening for job interviews is that when I straighten (which I do maybe once a month or once every other month), I know exactly what to expect. When my hair is curly, it's a free-for-all whether it will look nice or messy.

    Logical reasoning!

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  • Mom2lyse20Mom2lyse20 Posts: 60Registered Users
    Funny I see this post.....just because I have a meeting tomorrow for my job where we are suppose to go business casual to ( I wear scrubs and curly hair everyday otherwise) and I DO NOT want to straighten my hair! I want to go curly but am afraid of what they might think! we merged with a new company so this is to congratulate everyone on a new beginning! I'm going curly...hopefully its ok! :/ :confused2: :protest:
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  • sdkittysdkitty Posts: 358Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I think it depends on the work environment and your hair style. If it's a very conservative environment and your curls are long and unruly, it may not be a fit. When I was looking for office work, I straightened my hair (to play it safe) and then after I got the job, I wore it curly.
  • earthnutsearthnuts Posts: 39Registered Users
    When I think my hair is being too unruly-looking, I put it up. There are so many awesome updos you can do if your hair is armpit length or longer. A good updo always looks professional, even when you have a bunch of oil in your hair. :glasses8:
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  • Auntie BubbsAuntie Bubbs Posts: 1,068Registered Users
    sdkitty wrote: »
    I think it depends on the work environment and your hair style. If it's a very conservative environment and your curls are long and unruly, it may not be a fit. When I was looking for office work, I straightened my hair (to play it safe) and then after I got the job, I wore it curly.

    I agree with your first statement, but I do take exception to the phrase, "long and unruly" - curls can be long and not unruly, and they can be short and wild. Let's remember that length is not a condition of how kempt, or unkempt, one's hair is, just as curly or straight is not.
    That's me with FSG as my styler!!

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    Currently using:
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    RO: Yes to Cuc; SSC Lavender Condish; Sally GVP LI: Donna Marie Miracle D&C
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  • RingletTeenLoveRingletTeenLove Posts: 116Registered Users
    Curls are very professional!!! What did people do before they had straighteners and relaxers.?? They wore they're hair curly!! And there wasn't any issues!!

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  • Mom2lyse20Mom2lyse20 Posts: 60Registered Users
    well I went with curly today! And I'm having a good hair day! I never really have much if any frizz so it looks very well kept. Could have more volume but as long as its neat it professional to me! I was already told I look nice so I'm assuming it included my hair lol.........! Love the curly look and didn't want to burn my hair today! :)
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  • auntcurlyauntcurly Posts: 234Registered Users
    elizard wrote: »
    I don't think it has to do with the curls per se but rather having unkempt hair. A lot of curly girls do not know how to manage their hair. Some straight girls don't either and that's not professional! I know I've gone in with second day hair in the past that looks a mess. As long as your curls are nicely maintained you shouldn't have a problem. My 2 cents.


    I agree with your comment. A lot of this is generated because of poor grooming. Straight-haired gals get away only because it's considered the 'norm.' But certainly there's a lot of poor grooming among straight hair women.

    But to me, a small company with a liberal dress code should not be a problem. It only becomes a problem with big corporations who have a strict public identity.
  • Mom2lyse20Mom2lyse20 Posts: 60Registered Users
    Crazy thing....went to the job meeting last night with curly hair, wasn't really worried anymore! Well the big boss walks in ofcourse dressed in her business casual as well, and well she had gorgeous curly hair!!! Let out a huge sigh of relief hehe! So if the big boss, the doctor who started the whole company comes in with curly hair for a very important business casual meeting..........curly hair is very much soooooooo "PROFESSIONAL"!!! :geek: :hello1:
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  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    i thought about this post a bit before i commented. i think that when people think of curly hair, that they straight away think of two things:
    1) that curly hair is done with an iron for a wedding or formal etc.
    2) that curly hair is extremly fizzy and goes everywhere, basicaly that its not neat.
    just when one is nice and neat, and well groomed is as much as any one can do or ask for.
    just my 2 cents.

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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,363Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    In my line of work, it doesnt matter how my hair is. However: I dont believe I have EVER seen an anchorwoman with curlie hair; in films, I dont believe I have every seen a woman executive who has curls of any kind. If she is dressed "professionally", she has straight hair, or it is worn pulled back, or up, you never see curls. OP, you are not wrong. There HAVE been several posts about this. A few years ago, a man in a bar referred to my hair as "party hair", which I think was a compliment at the moment, but you can see where he was headed with it.
  • anonymous_114091anonymous_114091 Posts: 126Registered Users
    Obviously they are stuck in a pre-21st century mentality...

    P.s. I went to a job interview with a full head of curls. I mean, curls galore! I thought nothing of it because I knew I looked great. Hopefully I get a call back, lol.
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  • greencup13greencup13 Posts: 596Registered Users
    Wow reading this 20 minutes before a job interview. Yikes.

    As a few other have said..... I think it might be more related to if it's kept or not. I'm sure they dislike straight haired girls going in there looking a mess. Curlies just get a bad wrap because some have unruly hair.

    I personally think its absurd to discriminate against curly hair. On the other hand if your hair is a wild mess regardless of straight or curly I could see where an employer would dislike that. Kind of like coming into work all wrinkled.


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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,363Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Green, let us know if you get the job.
  • greencup13greencup13 Posts: 596Registered Users
    Myrna wrote: »
    Green, let us know if you get the job.

    That's a no. No job. I've been interviewing since January and haven't captured a job yet.


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  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,363Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Sorry to hear this... to Its so hard now for so many people; what kind of job are you looking for?
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