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GVP Conditioning Balm- not impressed

Does anyone else NOT like GVP conditioning balm? It is SO thick and I am finding it does not make for easy detangling. AT ALL. I tried it because so many people rave about it, but it's not doing much for me right now. I have spent so much money on my hair in the last few months and this wasn't exactly cheap. Has anybody else used this and switched to something else they liked better?
Type:3A/3B
Texture:Medium
Porosity:low
Elasticity:Normal
Still on a hunt for good cleanser/conditioner


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  • mcherycemcheryce Posts: 363Registered Users
    I thought the same thing. So i mixed mine with gel and oil and made a curly pudding out of it.
  • lcl0706lcl0706 Posts: 959Registered Users
    I don't love it, and I have the Matrix/Biolage version, not the generic :lol: so it definitely wasn't cheap. Okay, I can't say I don't like it, but I don't think it does what everyone else here raves that it does. It gives me no slip, and it's very very thick. If I ever need a DT, which is rare, I prefer CJCR over GVPCB. I used GVPCB more in the beginning of CG when I needed more moisture than I do now. If I use GVPCB, it's on an exceptionally dry day and I have to rinse it out immediately or it's way too moisturizing for me. But it smells great!
    :wave: fine, thin, normal/(low?) porosity. Mod-CG. Usually I can't co-wash more than 1x a week, & sometimes I have to use T-Gel in rotation due to scalp issues.

    Co-wash: VO5 Volumizing
    Poo: Giovanni 50:50
    RO:TN, Nexxus Youth Renewal, Alba Coconut
    LI: KCKT
    PT: gelatin PT, ION EC
    Stylers: Giovanni mousse, TIGI Curls Rock amplifier (a-cone), Curls Rock Strong Hold Mousse
    Gels: SCC spray gel

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  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    I also find that GVP CB doesn't have enough slip for my liking, but it is definitely moisturizing. I used the Biolage Conditioning Balm way, way pre-CG and loved it as a conditioner (and did find that it had enough slip for detangling). I know it's been reformulated at least twice in the interim, so I don't know how the current formula compares. And I don't know how the current formula compares to the GVP version (I read in another thread that the GVP version does not reflect the most recent Biolage re-formulation).

    I end up combining this with a conditioner that has more slip but not necessarily as much moisture for a nice balance (for my protein-hungry hair, Mill Creek Botanicals Keratin Conditioner fits the bill perfectly).

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    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • crazycurlychickcrazycurlychick Posts: 344Registered Users
    I like it for conditioner only styling but I find Vo5 moisture milks more moisturizing for me and it has good slip my fav for slip is the balsam and protein conditioner from the dollar tree but it does nothing for moisture


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    Routine!
    Shampoo n/a
    Conditioner Vo5 Moisture Milks
    Leave in Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie
    Shower, comb, apply leave in and mousse in wet hair then scrunch out the water and sometimes.
    Second day, Wake up mist with water and smooth Shea Moisture Curl enhancing smoothie over hair :wav:
  • anonymous_22139anonymous_22139 Posts: 659Registered Users
    I use about a teaspoon of the GVP as a LI. I can't detangle with it at ALL, but it does help to keep my hair moisturized if I use if after I've CO washed and detangled.
  • ElizabethFaithElizabethFaith Posts: 429Registered Users
    It's not great for detangling. I detangle with Tresemme Naturals, then use the GVPCB as a RO/LI.
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    My hair has a mix of low/med/high porosity, and it's medium textured (some are still fine, though!)

    CG since Sept. 2011
    Cowash: Vo5/Suave Naturals/Tresemme Naturals*
    RO/LI: GVPCB*, Tresemme Naturals*
    Low-poo: Shea Moisture Moisture Retention
    Stylers: KCKT*, Coconut Oil, Olive Oil, Grapeseed Oil, Honey*

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  • jazzy curlzjazzy curlz Posts: 47Registered Users
    I finds that GVP definitely works well as a LI/DT. I love that its thick so I have occasionally used it as my LI and it defines my curls nicely.

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  • LindseyLoo003LindseyLoo003 Posts: 120Registered Users
    I haven't come across any conditioners that detangle as well as the Cone conditioners that I no longer use. I do t know if anyone else noticing the more organic cg conditioners moisturizing well but not detangling like a cone would. I don't worry about trying to detangle all the way in the shower any more because with cg I need to just detangle from the ends up with conditioner and not let My hair tangle too much to begin with. I've tried renpure and it was buildupy so won't buy, GVP moisturizes well and is on my list still. It also works well as a leave in.Tresseme naturals moisture IMO detangled the best and its good as a leave in or cowash.

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  • CurlyIndianGirlCurlyIndianGirl Posts: 161Registered Users
    GVP is one of LI for me. It has no slip no matter what. I use Tresseme Naturals as Detangler/RO.
    3a with some 2a-2c, Medium/Low Porosity
    Co-wash:deva no-poo/Vo5 kiwi
    Detangle:Suave
    Leave-in:Shea Moisture/GVP conditioning Balm/AOHSR

    Since long hair- I finger twist in big chunks, which helps till 5th day hair:farao:
    Gel:LA sports
    Plop: Old T-shirt for 15 minutes ,diffuse
  • hairhealthhairhealth Posts: 90Registered Users
    what a timely thread. i was just thinking about re-adding gvpcb to my arsenal. i will just stay on my modified cg with the same products. 'looks like my product junkie days are officially over. :blob8:
    growout from baldy since 10/11
    modified cg; cones & mild sulfate 'poo
    -cowash: fave 2: vo5 strawberry
    -rinseout:herbal essencesbodyenvy;color mehappy
    -leave in: infusium 23 repair/renew spray
    -dc: gvp conditioning balm

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  • dftkarindftkarin Posts: 56Registered Users
    I use it as a RO sometimes and as a LI almost every day - and it works very well for me in that role. I like that its not drippy when I use it as a LI - and I guess I need that level of moisture these days.
  • MyrnaMyrna Posts: 2,332Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I have it also and dont love it. I like the smell, but I find it does not work as well as, say, Cure Care, which I do love, or Yes to Tomatoes, which I also love, including the smell. The GVP packaging is an issue for me; I can hardly get it out of the bottle. But regarding its performance, I dont think it is great. I dont.
  • curlangel0690curlangel0690 Posts: 172Registered Users
    I have found that I get more slip from GVP when I dilute it. I make sure my hair is super wet and mix with a little water in my hands.

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    "I'm not high maintenance, my hair is."
    3c mostly fine, high to normal porosity, medium density, normal elasticity

    Co-Wash- VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea, TreSemme Naturals
    LowPoo- GTTT
    RO- GVP Conditioning Balm
    LI- Giovanni Direct Leave In, GVP Conditioning Balm,
    Stylers- KMFUM, Eco Styler Krystal, AOMMM, UFDCM,
    Oils- Jojoba, Sweet Almond, Coconut
    PT- IAGirl's Gelatin PT
    DC- AS I Am Hydrating Mask
  • dindleedindlee Posts: 16Registered Users
    @myrna I'm so glad you mentioned getting it out of the bottle. I hate having to fight with bottles in the shower!
    I thought I was crazy for not liking it because so many people rave about it. It's making for some fabulous shaving cream right now☺
    Type:3A/3B
    Texture:Medium
    Porosity:low
    Elasticity:Normal
    Still on a hunt for good cleanser/conditioner


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  • BrittneyBuddyBrittneyBuddy Posts: 59Registered Users
    I find it to be just an okay conditioner. First of all, I HATE the bottle it comes in. I find it really difficult to squeeze out the product, especially when the bottle is less than half way full (maybe that's the actual thickness of the product itself though). What I REALLY hate is how the letters on the bottle flake off when they get wet, which is hard to avoid since you use conditioner in the shower (duh). They flake off onto my hand and are hard to get off, so they end up getting in my hair. Not attractive.

    The actual product itself is okay. It's a bit too rich for my hair and doesn't detangle my hair at all. It weighs down my hair but moisturizes really well. For me it works better as a DT than a RO or a LI. If you want a bit more weight to your hair this might work though, but I definitely don't recommend it for detangling!
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    3a, fine hair, high density, normal porosity and elasicity
    Low poo: Coloresse Moisture Shampoo
    RO: GVPCB
    LI: KCKT
    Gel: KCCC
    DT: SMT with GVPCB
    PT: Cure Care Conditioner
    Sealant: Grapeseed oil
    Other useful things: Homemade spray gel (diluted LI, gel, and sealant)
    Love plopping and air drying!
    Hate blow drying (cept for my bangs which *gasp* I blow dry straight!)
  • SpiralSpunkSpiralSpunk Posts: 243Registered Users
    Does anyone like the GVP "Conditioner" (the Paul Mitchell knock off) better than this as a leave-in?

    I have a good coupon for Sally's so I'm trying to decide if I want to try that or get another Conditioning Balm (which I've only used once so far so idk how I like it yet).
  • PheebiePheebie Posts: 177Registered Users
    I'm glad I'm not alone - GVP CB is very hit-or-miss for me. One day I'll use it as RO & LI and get amazing results. Then I'll try it again, either the next day or a few days later, and my hair is dull, lifeless & with poor curl formation.
    I get much better results all around (detangling, as a rinse out & leave-in) with Herbal Essences Hello Hydration. (I know it's got a 'cone, but I don't mind - the results are consistent and I love the scent.)
    Hair Type: 3A/3B; natural color; mid-back length.
    Shampoo: Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus (2 - 3 times/week)
    Fave Rinse-Out Conditioners: HE Hello Hydration; Yes to Blueberries; GVP Conditioning Balm;
    Styling Routine: Squish-scrunch product /conditioner into soaking wet, upside down hair; plop for 10 minutes, air dry. (Diffuser dry front section.)
    Fave Styling Products: KCKT; Tigi Curl Amplifier Creme; Batia & Aleeza gel; Giovanni Sunset Styler; LA Looks Sport Gel.
  • Jacksgirl04Jacksgirl04 Posts: 15Registered Users
    I was all excited to try this only to be let down. It smelled pretty decent, had amazing slip in the shower but after styling and air-drying it left my curls limp. My curls are now waves. Don't like this stuff at all, I will be returning the product.
  • WiggilyhairWiggilyhair Posts: 779Registered Users
    The Biolage version now has salicylic acid in it which made me question trying it. I do remember using the GVP a few years ago and not liking it at all compared to Biloage.
  • GermanCurlsGermanCurls Posts: 13Registered Users
    I was not impressed either. And god i hate the bottle. I will definitely not buy it again
  • NvmbrCurlssNvmbrCurlss Posts: 732Registered Users
    The matrix version did not penetrate my hair for some reason...I wanted to retry this winter but if they changed the formula, I'm not so sure anymore.
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    LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


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  • curlypriyacurlypriya Posts: 223Registered Users
    I like it as a DT with some heat


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    Hair type-3A/B fine ,dense,normal porosity..
    LOW POO : SM Moisture Retention,TBS Rainforest Moisture shampoo
    NO POO-DevaCurl No poo
    COWASH-Suave coconut,Tressemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture,Vo5 kiwi Lime
    RO -DevaCurl One Condish,Shea moisture condish,Matrix Biolage CB
    LI- AO GVP protein balancing condish,SM thickening Yucca growth milk,SM Shea Butter Leave in
    Stylers - SM smoothie,Aveda Flaxseed Aloe Gel,Eco Styler (Protein and Olive oil),Deva Arc Angel
  • seamelody14seamelody14 Posts: 282Registered Users
    I like it but not for daily use because like you said it's sooo thick, it's just impractical. That being said it works great if you leave it in for 5+ minutes, the slip doesn't happen right away but if you wait a few minutes it's great. It's good for DTing.
    2a/b
    medium/thick
    high porosity (from coloring)

    Shampoo: Mop Top Gentle Shampoo
    Co-wash: Chistophe Robin Lemon Cleansing Cream
    RO: CJ strengthening, Kenra moisturizing
    LI: Jessicurl Aloeba
    DT: CJ rehab, Christophe Robin Prickly Pear Mask
    PT: SS protein treatment, Ouidad 12 minute
    Stylers: Jessicurl RR, SS Firm Hold Gel
    Oils: caudalie, sweet almond
  • stacyw71stacyw71 Posts: 75Registered Users
    I love it! I use it as both a RO and a LI. I only use GVP and gel, no other stylers, BUT my hair is thick and coarse and sucks up moisture so I can see how it might weigh some people's hair down. My hair doesn't get very tangled so I don't have an issue with that. As far as the bottle...I keep it upside down in the shower so it doesn't have to make its way to the top each time.
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    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut Conditioner
    RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, AOHR
    LI: GVP Conditioning Balm
    DT: Shea Moisture DT Hair Masque, AOHR
    Gel: Dep Endurance Styling Gel, HE Set Me Up Spray Gel

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  • mooglieboomooglieboo Posts: 23Registered Users
    It works for me as a DT and sometimes as a leave-in. I usually use a much lighter conditioner, but when my hair starts getting 'big' near when I need but don't have time for a DT, it's great. I used to use it daily when I first started CG, which helped me get a lot of moisture, but it also weighed down my hair a ton.

    I solved the impossible bottle-wranging problem though! I wanted to save the rest of the bottle I had at home to take with me to college so I washed out the empty tub from some KCCC I had just finished, cut off the top half of the GVPCB bottle, and scooped the conditioner into the tub. It's worked really well so far!
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    Shampoo - Shea Moisture
    Co-wash - Alberto V05
    RO/LI - TNNM, L'Oreal EverSleek
    Styler: Left em all at school :"(
    Gel: GF Pure Clean, LALSG
  • kurlygurlykurlygurly Posts: 644Registered Users
    Yepp, I finally bought some last week as well as that sorry a$$ As I Am Hydration Elation....I was so UNimpressed that I wrote a review in curlmart. Both were mediocre. I use the GVP as a moisturizer for my ends at night but nothing to detangle with.....I'm just trying too use it up.

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    3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
    Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
    Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
    LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
    STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
    hemp oil, jojoba oil
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  • EricachristinaEricachristina Posts: 496Registered Users
    Just bought this because of the good reviews I have been hearing. I used it as a rinse out and detangler and I added a bit to my deep conditioner. The roots of my hair weren't very moisturized, the rest of my hair felt okay but no better than usual when I use my Giovanni deep moisture, Aussie, Tresemme naturals or Suave. It actually feels a tad less moisturized which was surprising because the product is so thick. I think ill have to give it a try for a couple more weeks before I make a final decision on whether I like it or not. I did not like the smell at all, it smells like a salon to me but not in a good way.
  • SpiralSpunkSpiralSpunk Posts: 243Registered Users
    I wasn't impressed when I tried it, AOHSR is thick too, but I like it much better. GVPCB felt weird going on and detangling was not any easier because there was no slip. It did seem to "melt" tangles, but that took a lot of smoothing and my hair didn't feel especially moisturized.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    curlypriya wrote: »
    I like it as a DT with some heat


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    Yeahhhhhh, I like it this way also. My daughter is 4a and it REALLY worked as a DT for her.....the results were even more noticeable on her.

    Lately I've been rinsing, putting on the GVP CB, sealing with oil, then braiding in 4-5 braids and sitting under my bonnet until dry.

    It's been working so awesomely so far, especially with these cold mornings. In the mornings I just unbraid and refresh with my water/oil mix....instead of having to immerse my entire head. Or smooth sections with wet hands and scrunch lightly. I rebraid, or pineapple, at night and sleep in my satin bonnet.
  • longlivecurlslonglivecurls Posts: 271Registered Users
    I was thinking I was the only one. I bought it because of all the good reviews but it didn't work for me. For some reason my hair felt dry after using it and it made my scalp itchy. I only used it twice I couldn't deal with the itch. As soon as I stopped using it my scalp went back to normal. The bottle is frustrating as well. It's hard to get the product out. I am planning on giving it to my sister and see if it works for her since its practically full. Now I am using DermOrganics masque as a RO/LI/DT (depending on the day). So far I love it. It leaves my hair soft and helps with the frizz.
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    curl type: 2c/3a on a good day :love5:
    med/high porosity & high density
    hair strand width: med/coarse
    BSL hair & growing



    GOING STRONG!!! SAY NO TO HEAT!!!
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