Suave Naturals trials

earthnutsearthnuts Registered Users Posts: 41 Curl Neophyte
I've been trying different conditioners and I thought my findings might interest someone. Suave Naturals Coconut and Suave Naturals Strawberry conditioners make my hair significantly straighter. So I tried several other conditioners and narrowed the problem ingredient to Distearyldimonium Chloride. I know now to avoid Distearyldimonium Chloride if I want my hair at its curliest!

FYI, here are the surfactants used in Suave conditioners:

Cetrimonium Chloride & Distearyldimonium Chloride:
Suave Naturals Aloe & Waterlily
Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut
Suave Naturals Pomegranate Splash
Suave Naturals Wild Cherry Blossom
Suave Naturals Fresh Mountain Strawberry

Centrimonium Chloride & Distearyldimonium Chloride:
Suave Naturals Juicy Green Apple

Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine:
Suave Naturals Ocean Breeze
Suave Naturals Refreshing Waterfall Mist
Suave Naturals Mango Mandarin
Suave Naturals Everlasting Sunshine
Suave Naturals Soothing Lavender Lilac
Suave Naturals Sweet Pea & Violet

So if your hair hasn't liked Suave, you may have better luck using a different "flavor". :happy10:
2c wurly silver & dark chocolate hair

Wash routine! 1-2 times a week: CO wash with Suave Coconut, leaving some in, plop, air-dry

Great for me!
 Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, coconut oil, olive oil

Bad for me! Phenoxyethanol irritates scalp, Distearyldimonium Chloride & Quaternium-87 straighten hair

Comments

  • MsbeautyboutinMsbeautyboutin Registered Users Posts: 17
    Wow.
    I was wondering why my curls were looser with the coconut suave than and the sweat pea or the ever lasting shine line.

    Wow thank you for breaking it down.


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  • mycurlytressesmycurlytresses Registered Users Posts: 275
    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. :-)

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  • shortdddorkshortdddork Registered Users Posts: 8
    So you think it's definitely the Distearyldimonium Chloride and not the Cetrimonium/Centrimonium Chloride that makes your hair straighter?
  • mycurlytressesmycurlytresses Registered Users Posts: 275
    I switched conditioners for a week (was using Suave Naturals Coconut) and my curl pattern loosened. I returned to the Suave. :-)

    *Garnier Pure Clean conditioner loosened my curl pattern. Suave tightened my curls back up. :-)

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  • KeihsKeihs Registered Users Posts: 435
    I too, noticed my hair had gotten straighter with Suave Sun-Ripened Strawberry, which has distearyldimonium chloride. So should I use the conditioners on the last list with the diethalamine (sp?)? Would that make my hair curlier or at least how it should be?
  • Goin'GreyGoin'Grey Registered Users Posts: 301 Curl Neophyte
    Earthnuts,
    This is so interesting to me. I always knew the Juicy Green Apple left my hair the best and I knew the Coconut had protein, which I could use every once in a while.

    I've tried to love some of the other flavors and just could not understand WHY I DIDN'T.
    I was unable to breakdown the ingredients the way you did. You are a genius! Thank you so much for this post.
    3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
    Med-Course
    Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
    Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
    Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
    SOTC: JCNS
    Love your hair: Love yourself!
  • greencup13greencup13 Registered Users Posts: 596
    I switched conditioners for a week (was using Suave Naturals Coconut) and my curl pattern loosened. I returned to the Suave. :-)

    *Garnier Pure Clean conditioner loosened my curl pattern. Suave tightened my curls back up. :-)

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    Dang. I didn't realize coconut had protein. I use it as a styler and that's probably why my hair has been dried a s straw like. Dang dang.

    Now for a protein free one. Ugh.
    3A 3B mix
    Colored treated
    Combo Low and High porosity
    Medium coarse texture

    Goosefootprints hair analysis
    Co-wash- As I Am Co-wash
    RO-GVPCB[/COLOR
    LI- As I Am leave in,
    [/COLOR][/COLOR]
    Style- la looks sport gel
  • greencup13greencup13 Registered Users Posts: 596
    Okay Im a little confused now. I searched my tropical coconut for protein based on Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair Care Products and do not see any protein.

    I then searched for the Cetrimonium Chloride & Distearyldimonium Chloride and its not in my ingredient list. Am I missing something?????
    3A 3B mix
    Colored treated
    Combo Low and High porosity
    Medium coarse texture

    Goosefootprints hair analysis
    Co-wash- As I Am Co-wash
    RO-GVPCB[/COLOR
    LI- As I Am leave in,
    [/COLOR][/COLOR]
    Style- la looks sport gel
  • kurlygurlykurlygurly Registered Users Posts: 644
    greencup13 wrote: »
    Okay Im a little confused now. I searched my tropical coconut for protein based on Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair Care Products and do not see any protein.

    I then searched for the Cetrimonium Chloride & Distearyldimonium Chloride and its not in my ingredient list. Am I missing something?????

    Silk amino acids is the protein.

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    3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
    Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
    Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
    LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
    STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
    hemp oil, jojoba oil
    www.naturesnectars.net
  • kurlygurlykurlygurly Registered Users Posts: 644
    Btw, the tropical coconut contains potassium chloride, and none of the others.

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    3b-ish... normal to low porosity....med. texture
    Wash: Desert Essence Coconut shampoo, Acure argon shampoo
    Deep Trestment: Nature's Nectars deep conditioner/styler
    Condition: Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Nature's Gate pomegranate sunflower
    LEAVE-IN:Nature's Nectars luv-n-a-bottle, Natures Gate pomegranate sunflower
    STYLE: Nature's Nectars Sweet Shea butter blend, Ecostyler gel
    hemp oil, jojoba oil
    www.naturesnectars.net
  • earthnutsearthnuts Registered Users Posts: 41 Curl Neophyte
    So you think it's definitely the Distearyldimonium Chloride and not the Cetrimonium/Centrimonium Chloride that makes your hair straighter?
    I tried other conditioners that had Cetrimonium/Centrimonium Chloride without the Distearyldimonium Chloride and they did not make my hair straighter. YMMV certainly, everyone's hair is different. :)
    2c wurly silver & dark chocolate hair

    Wash routine! 1-2 times a week: CO wash with Suave Coconut, leaving some in, plop, air-dry

    Great for me!
     Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, coconut oil, olive oil

    Bad for me! Phenoxyethanol irritates scalp, Distearyldimonium Chloride & Quaternium-87 straighten hair

  • NvmbrCurlssNvmbrCurlss Registered Users Posts: 732 Curl Neophyte
    kurlygurly wrote: »
    Btw, the tropical coconut contains potassium chloride, and none of the others.

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    I noticed this too! Where I live, the newer bottles (formulations) don't have any chlorides but potassium chloride. Only the small (older?) bottles have the chlorides mentioned above....


    3B, Fine, Med D, Norm P&E
    LowP: Kinky Curly CC (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Coconut/VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT/ HETT(mixed w/ GSO or EVOO)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
    LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


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  • earthnutsearthnuts Registered Users Posts: 41 Curl Neophyte
    kurlygurly wrote: »
    Btw, the tropical coconut contains potassium chloride, and none of the others.

    I noticed this too! Where I live, the newer bottles (formulations) don't have any chlorides but potassium chloride. Only the small (older?) bottles have the chlorides mentioned above....
    I looked at online ingredient lists. I didn't include Potassium Chloride because it's not a conditioning agent like the other chlorides and ALL the Suave Naturals have it. But the big bottle formulation must contain some kind of conditioning agent! All the ingredient lists online indicate that Coconut contains all 3 chlorides. Either the online list or the label must be wrong.
    2c wurly silver & dark chocolate hair

    Wash routine! 1-2 times a week: CO wash with Suave Coconut, leaving some in, plop, air-dry

    Great for me!
     Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, coconut oil, olive oil

    Bad for me! Phenoxyethanol irritates scalp, Distearyldimonium Chloride & Quaternium-87 straighten hair

  • NvmbrCurlssNvmbrCurlss Registered Users Posts: 732 Curl Neophyte
    I think the online lost includes a universal ingredients list. The bottles I find must be the variety in my region, that's the only solution I can think of, cuz ur right, the online lists, don't show the current formula I use?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
    LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
    NoP: As I Am CC
    RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
    LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


    "To much is given, much is expected"

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