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  • wild_sasparillawild_sasparilla Posts: 4,306Registered Users
    This makes my blood boil.

    This.

    So. Much. This.
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  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    Ooooh I have an idea! Let's make things harder for pregnant teens who already have the odds against them by kicking them out of school! Brilliant!

    ...WAIT.


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  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    It's unbelievable that a public school is so confident they can get away with something like this.

    I went to an all-girls Catholic high school, and I know at least one student who stayed and eventually graduated after having a baby (she had to repeat a year for time missed). If a Catholic school is more progressive than you, then you know your policies are f'ed up.

    Isn't Louisiana also the state with the school teaching that the Loch Ness monster is real?
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  • PoodleheadPoodlehead Posts: 6,959Registered Users
    It's a charter school, so they probably CAN get away with it. The girls will just go to public school.

    It's horrifying how little we progress the more we progress.
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  • cyndicyndi Posts: 3,341Registered Users
    legends wrote: »
    It's unbelievable that a public school is so confident they can get away with something like this.

    I went to an all-girls Catholic high school, and I know at least one student who stayed and eventually graduated after having a baby (she had to repeat a year for time missed). If a Catholic school is more progressive than you, then you know your policies are f'ed up.

    Isn't Louisiana also the state with the school teaching that the Loch Ness monster is real?

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Women's (and girls') rights are REgressing in America, not PROgressing. Want more regression? Then vote in some more Republican Christian politicians, because one of their main agenda items is to destroy women's progress.
  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    Poodlehead wrote: »
    It's a charter school, so they probably CAN get away with it. The girls will just go to public school.

    It's horrifying how little we progress the more we progress.

    No but the article says they're public. That means the government pays for them (via taxpayers money) and its free right?

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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    When are they going to start booting out the boys that are knocking these girls up?
    When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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  • PoodleheadPoodlehead Posts: 6,959Registered Users
    Poodlehead wrote: »
    It's a charter school, so they probably CAN get away with it. The girls will just go to public school.

    It's horrifying how little we progress the more we progress.

    No but the article says they're public. That means the government pays for them (via taxpayers money) and its free right?

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    It's a public charter. I think the charter schools get to play by different rules. While still accepting public funds. Neat way to get around silly things like laws.
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  • Myradella3Myradella3 Posts: 2,481Registered Users
    When I was in high school in the 70s, pregnant girls weren't allowed to come to school. They had to go to the pregnant girl high school. I forget the name but they offered support like child development, birth control, financial managment, and career planning.
  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Posts: 8,002Registered Users
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    When are they going to start booting out the boys that are knocking these girls up?

    Took the words right outta my mouth.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    Myradella3 wrote: »
    When I was in high school in the 70s, pregnant girls weren't allowed to come to school. They had to go to the pregnant girl high school. I forget the name but they offered support like child development, birth control, financial managment, and career planning.
    Yeah, would be illegal. Even back then it was illegal.
    When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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  • LadyV69LadyV69 Posts: 3,397Registered Users
    My sister had her first child at 17. This was back in the 80's, but there were no pregnancy tests nor did they force her to leave the school. Due to the time missed, she had to repeat a year and graduated a year later than she should have, but that was it. This was at a public school.

    Is it legal for this charter school to do this? It shouldn't be if they are taking public funds, but who knows anymore. Since this is happening in the same state that wants to teach its kids that the Loch Ness monster is real, I'm really not too surprised.
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  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    Springcurl wrote: »
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    When are they going to start booting out the boys that are knocking these girls up?

    Took the words right outta my mouth.
    Right? It takes two to tango. Why do those boys deserve an education more than the pregnant girls. [sarcasm]Oh, because they're BOYS! Silly me! [/sarcasm]

    This makes me see red. How are they getting away with something so clearly illegal?
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  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    Poodlehead wrote: »
    Poodlehead wrote: »
    It's a charter school, so they probably CAN get away with it. The girls will just go to public school.

    It's horrifying how little we progress the more we progress.

    No but the article says they're public. That means the government pays for them (via taxpayers money) and its free right?

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    It's a public charter. I think the charter schools get to play by different rules. While still accepting public funds. Neat way to get around silly things like laws.

    Oh gross. Lol. I didn't know charter schools existed until I visited relatives "up north" one day and they were discussing them. They sound like...something.

    That is ridiculous.


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  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users
    La. school stops kicking out pregnant students

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  • cailincailin Posts: 897Registered Users
    Women's (and girls') rights are REgressing in America, not PROgressing. Want more regression? Then vote in some more Republican Christian politicians, because one of their main agenda items is to destroy women's progress.


    This. When I was in public HS over 15 years ago, girls who got pregnant stayed in school until they delivered and when they came back could put their children in the Early Childhood Development daycare/preschool. It's a sad day when girls have less opportunities all these years later.
  • kat180kat180 Posts: 6,280Registered Users
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.
  • SaraNoHSaraNoH Posts: 827Registered Users
    kat180 wrote: »
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.

    At the HS I graduated from if you were found out to be pregnant, BOTH were asked to leave, not just the girl. Granted, this is only 1 school, but I think that if you are going to kick them out, it had better be both of them.
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  • Fifi.GFifi.G Posts: 15,490Registered Users
    That infuriates me!!

    If I am not mistaken the public high school in my town "urges" girls to a charter/public school if they get pregnant. It's basically the school for juvenile delinquents.

    Some schools might want to consider more education for students. I know one high school in TN (and many others in the south) hardly has a female student who is not pregnant. Many girls there make pregnancy pacts. It might be wise to have past graduates/current parents speak to the student body, in those situations, but no one should be tossed. That is intolerable.


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  • BlackAngelPlayahBlackAngelPlayah Posts: 1,419Registered Users
    kat180 wrote: »
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.

    This. Why the hell do we let men keep ruining- er.. Running the world again?


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  • kat180kat180 Posts: 6,280Registered Users
    Isn't education meant to be for all? I cannot think of any reason why pregnant girls cannot get an education too. None whatsoever.

    It strikes me as ironic, that the kind of people who would most likely be ok with kicking young pregnant girls out of schools, would later be the same people that moan about their taxes going towards the benefits said mother and child would get to help with housing and food - because its going to be damn hard for any young single mother to find work, let alone find a good paying job without having finished school.

    I also don't know how old these girls are - but in the UK the age of consent is 16. I don't think any girl should be singled out and looked down on for her sexual choices (I may personally feel they are too young to be having sex, they may even be legally too young to be having sex, but throwing them out of school is hardly the answer is it). But if they are 16 - regardless of how you (gy) feel, there's really not much you can do about it, except help, support and guide them and making damn sure that young people get an education not only after pregnancy, but before hand as well. Too many young women and men don't receive a good sex education to begin with.
  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    kat180 wrote: »
    Isn't education meant to be for all? I cannot think of any reason why pregnant girls cannot get an education too. None whatsoever.

    It strikes me as ironic, that the kind of people who would most likely be ok with kicking young pregnant girls out of schools, would later be the same people that moan about their taxes going towards the benefits said mother and child would get to help with housing and food - because its going to be damn hard for any young single mother to find work, let alone find a good paying job without having finished school.

    I also don't know how old these girls are - but in the UK the age of consent is 16. I don't think any girl should be singled out and looked down on for her sexual choices (I may personally feel they are too young to be having sex, they may even be legally too young to be having sex, but throwing them out of school is hardly the bloody answer is it). But if they are 16 - regardless of how you (gy) feel, there's really not much you can do about it, except help, support and guide them and making damn sure that young people get an education not only after pregnancy, but before hand as well. Too many young women and men don't receive a good sex education to begin with.

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  • CurlyHairedFarmerCurlyHairedFarmer Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    That is ridiculous!

    A girl in my high school got pregnant TWICE during her 51/2 years and the school never asked her to leave. She had to repeat what she missed. If a school in rural Maine can be progressive, I see no reason why others cannot.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    SaraNoH wrote: »
    kat180 wrote: »
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.

    At the HS I graduated from if you were found out to be pregnant, BOTH were asked to leave, not just the girl. Granted, this is only 1 school, but I think that if you are going to kick them out, it had better be both of them.
    Again, illegal.
    When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    SaraNoH wrote: »
    kat180 wrote: »
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.

    At the HS I graduated from if you were found out to be pregnant, BOTH were asked to leave, not just the girl. Granted, this is only 1 school, but I think that if you are going to kick them out, it had better be both of them.

    How did they prove the fathers were the fathers?
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  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    mrspoppers wrote: »
    SaraNoH wrote: »
    kat180 wrote: »
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.

    At the HS I graduated from if you were found out to be pregnant, BOTH were asked to leave, not just the girl. Granted, this is only 1 school, but I think that if you are going to kick them out, it had better be both of them.
    Again, illegal.
    Not at a private school, which is where I think SaraNoH went. But at a public or charter school, absolutely.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Amneris wrote: »
    SaraNoH wrote: »
    kat180 wrote: »
    I notice the boys who are getting these girls pregnant aren't being kicked out.

    What a ****ing surprise.

    I'm too tired. I cannot think about stuff like this without getting too angry to type.

    At the HS I graduated from if you were found out to be pregnant, BOTH were asked to leave, not just the girl. Granted, this is only 1 school, but I think that if you are going to kick them out, it had better be both of them.

    How did they prove the fathers were the fathers?


    Really. Some of these girls might not even know who impregnated them. And some might not want to tell. Or might want to implicate someone else.

    And besides, since when is two high school drop outs better than one?

  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    Amneris wrote: »
    SaraNoH wrote: »

    At the HS I graduated from if you were found out to be pregnant, BOTH were asked to leave, not just the girl. Granted, this is only 1 school, but I think that if you are going to kick them out, it had better be both of them.

    How did they prove the fathers were the fathers?


    Really. Some of these girls might not even know who impregnated them. And some might not want to tell. Or might want to implicate someone else.

    And besides, since when is two high school drop outs better than one?


    I absolutely don't think the girls should be asked to leave, but I don't see how it is at all logical to ask the boys to do so. At least with the girls, it is obvious that they are pregnant (I am not saying they should be kicked out though!) but short of an expensive DNA test, you'd be kicking the boys out on someone else's word, who can be mistaken, or act vindictively against someone else or whatever. And people aren't necessarily getting pregnant with people at the same school, either. I would also think that a policy like that would make it even less likely that a teen father would take responsibility for his child so I can't see how it is a good idea.

    At my private religious school, pregnant girls were never asked to leave, but I think generally they did leave on their own. I can't say whether that was subtle pressure from the school, their parents' disappointment in them so that they no longer wanted to pay fees, their parents' anger at the school for allowing it to happen, that they felt they would fit in better elsewhere as a teen parent, that they themselves were dealing with a lot and couldn't focus on school, or that they needed a less demanding academic program. Probably a combination of these factors. There was one girl who stuck it out and did quite well academically, and while there was some gossip, my recollection is that most people admired her. She got some kind of award at graduation.

    There was another school in my area that had an excellent program for teen mothers. They continued in school as normal until they gave birth, allowing for medical needs if required, and took off some time after the birth, and then when the child was a few months old, or whenever they were ready, they returned. There was an infant lab which served as a day care. The babies went there while the mothers had class and staff members who were qualified child care providers watched them. The mothers could come in at their breaks to nurse the babies and this was encouraged.

    A class in infant care and development was offered which was mandatory for the mothers and the fathers, if known and students at that school, and was optional for other students. They all learned about healthy coping strategies for parents and so on, and those children were real life examples that the students could "use" to do diaper changes and the like.

    If anything, the point at which she becomes a mother is a pivotal moment in a young girl's life because, depending upon the support she receives, it can be the time she really steps it up and gets it together for her child, or it can be the time she is doomed to a life of struggle. I think most new mothers are very motivated to do well for their children and schools should be trying to take advantage of this impulse. I also completely agree with kat that on top of all the other struggles they will have, the last thing that teen moms need is to be denied an education and shamed. And likely the people doing this are the same ones against social assistance, etc. - so what exactly do they expect these girls to do?
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