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Kinky Curly Custard questions

caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
I had a chance to sample some of this at Whole Foods, and went ahead and did so as my hair was still damp(and had some LALSG in it(my current gel). Wow - what curl enhancement! Now, the questions are, since this stuff is more expensive than what I usually buy:

- Is this a replacement for gel?
- Is it strictly a curl enhancer, not a styler, like a gel?
- Does one use it UNDER gel, or all by itself(my hair is thick and needs a lot of hold)?
- Finally, is it the same sort of product as the much-cheaper EcoStyler at Sally Beauty Supply that a number of people rave about here?

I do have mixed texture, 2c-3a that is fine-ish to medium in texture and a lot of it, so I need really good hold. Fancy curl creams don't do it for me, like at the salon. They'll look nice for exactly an hour(or less)and then the hold disappears altogether. Currently, and for years, I've been using LA Looks gels, first starting with the old light green Mega gel, then the Curl Look one(I'm still bemoaning the discontinuing of this)and currently the Sports version. Hold is excellent, curl good, but I was truly amazed at the increase in CURL formation from even putting a little bit of the KCC in informally at the store.
I did a YouTube search for KCC, and most of what I came up with were African American women using it - is it still OK for Caucasian curly hair? I would think so.
I'd love to know a little more before popping for even the small jar of the KCC, which costs $18 at Whole Foods. But I do like the fact that it's more natural too.
Thanks anyone for any thoughts!:)

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  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I call KCCC a jelly product--gelatinous consistency without the chemicals of gels. My hair doesn't like the chemicals, so I use jelly products and no gel. I use a li and/or curl enhancer depending on the dew point. Others need strong hold gel with it. As with everything else--it all depends on what your hair likes.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • RustinaRustina Posts: 894Registered Users
    When I use KCCC, I use it as I would use a gel - over a leave-in, often with another curl enhancer mixed in. I find that the hold is not great, though, so I almost always top off with a teeny bit of BRHG. Hope that helps.


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    Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
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  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thanks kathymack! Just a FEW more questions:

    - How do you determine dew points, and do I really have to do this since I live in San Francisco? I've seen stuff on the boards about dew points and I'm totally confused. Is it the same as humidity? Not sure!
    - Isn't it just enough to know that one either lives in a more humid climate or not? I've lived in very humid, somewhat moist like here in SF, and the arid southwest. It took a long time for my hair to adjust to arid climate, but the minute I moved away, it just loved returning to more moisture in the air here in SF and is a good bit curlier here than it ever was in New Mexico, esp. with the hard water there. My hair LOVES humidity and curls up the more humid it is. I don't try to stop it either - been there done that many years ago before finding good cutters for curly hair.
    - Do you use a SEPARATE curl-enhancer, or do you consider the KCC to be your curl enhancer - your answer was not quite clear here. So you use jellies as your stylers, or curl enhancers? Still not sure here.

    I tend not to layer products, for two reasons, expense, and laziness. I prefer to just scrunch in just one into wet hair, scrunching in further with a microfiber towel, and then let it air dry. I never heat treat, as I do color my hair.
    Last but not least, the KCC would be a BIG splurge for me, as I'm either drugstore, or Sally's level for prices. I'm sure the products you use are lovely, but I have a feeling they are out of my price range. With a little more clarity, and hopefully some other people will chime in here, it will help me decide if it's really worth it for me. However, I do tend to spend far more for my hair cuts than products LOL!

    @Rustina - Thanks for your input too! I never use leave-ins - they make my hair limp, and I'm kind of leery of layering products. I've tried a couple of times and my hair usually ended up gunky and dull - ugh! Then I had to wash the stuff out right away.

    One other note, since my hair is very thick, even though it's only in an inverted bob, I have to apply lots of product to get it through my hair. A nickel-sized blob of anything basically takes care of one little section of my hair. For instance, I use TABLESPOONS full of conditioner, and my gel, hence the having to go on the cheap side with products. I'd go through a $20-tube of something in short order LOL!
  • SaraNoHSaraNoH Posts: 827Registered Users
    Heeeeey hair twin :)
    I've used KCCC in the past, and while I like it, you're right. It's so friggin expensive. I used it as my primary styler gel over a leave in, since I felt it had a decent hold (I always had crunchies to scrunch out). However, it's been a few months since I've used it and my definition of "hard-hold" continues to change as I try new products.

    I think most people who use it use it for a curl enhancement. You really only need a tiny amount so it's a product that stretches out...
    CG Birthday: 7/25/11
    Type 3a/2c
    Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity
    Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo
    Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave In: ^^^^
    Stylers: AIF, Natural Silks Curly Gel
    *Desert Curly*
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    I am not white, which I think is what you meant by Caucasian, but I do have curly hair that is thick and loves humidity. I love KKC. I use it as a gel over leave-in conditioner. I live in the desert so I don't use a lot. However I use a lot more when I visit my family who lives in a very humid climate.

    I find that the $18 jar lasts me at least 6 months. I also like that I get adequate hold without buildup or crunchiness. My hair has been between chin length and shoulder length since I've used KKC. Obviously I'm a fan. ;-)
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    There's a lot of information on dew points both on nc.com and the internet. It's a more reliable indicator of the moisture in the air than relative humidity. In my area (Phila), the news stations have switched to using dew point when reporting the weather. Yesterday morning, the dew point was 75--which is considered tropical. In the winter, we can have dew points in the negative numbers. So, it's not enough to know "where you live." It all depends. San Francisco may be more consistent in it's dew points, but I'm sure there are fluctuations.

    Since coming on nc.com and learning how to take care of my hair (using products and good technique), my curl pattern has become tighter and strengthened. Luckily, I don't need the hard hold that the chemicals in gels provide. Jelly products are really moisturizing, so are curl enhancing for most people. When the dew points are low, I use a leave in AND curl enhancer with a jelly product. When the dew points are high, I use a leave in OR curl enhancer with a jelly product.

    With many of the more expensive products a little goes a long way, so they end up being at least as cost effective as the less expensive products. In the long run, you need to do what works for both your hair and your pocket.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • ldmessingldmessing Posts: 5Registered Users
    I use the kccc strictly as a curl enhancer, under my hard hold gels. I have 3a/b hair, fine but lots of it, to the middle of my back. I use about a quarter sized amount on my hair of the kccc, and about 3 tablespoons of gel
    3a/b fine low porosity
    co wash V05 moisture milks strawberry
    RO tresseme naturals, suave coconut
    leave in kckt
    seal with ky
    kccc as an activator
    lalsg & bhrg
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thanks everybody for the input! I'll have to think this over. But it DOES sound reassuring that one only needs a LITTLE bit of the KCC, and with that, it would be OK under a gel. Maybe I'll pop for the small jar - again, this would be a huge treat hairwise!
    Unlike many people with curly hair, I'm trying to INCREASE curl, not stretch it out.
    One more question:

    Is the EcoStyler at Sally Beauty Supply the same type of product as the KCC, as in it being a jelly-type of curl enhancer?
  • multicultcurlymulticultcurly Posts: 5,132Registered Users
    I've never used ecostyler as I like more natural products. I also have hair that tends to not like drugstore products. The 4a and possibly the 3c boards would be able to give you input, as ecostyler is well-liked by many posters. From what I have read, ecostyler is a cheaper, less natural version of KKC so it would be worth a try. It's only about $4.
    3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
    HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thanks multicultcurly for the heads-up about the EcoStyler. Actually, I'm 2c-3a, hence the wanting to increase curl formation. I'd love to use good all-natural products, but many, save for a few raw ingredients like coconut oil, etc., are out of my budget.:( Baking soda and ACV were disasters for my color-treated hair:(
  • RustinaRustina Posts: 894Registered Users
    I've tried a couple of Ecostyler varieties, and they are definitely NOT like KCCC. Both Ecostylers that I've tried (clear and pink) were very thick and very sticky and gummy in consistency. I found them hard to distribute and had trouble with individual hairs sticking to my hands (and thus being pulled out of their clumps), so I stopped using them. YMMV.


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    Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
    Northern VA
    Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
    Dye-free since 11/2010

  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    Rustina wrote: »
    I've tried a couple of Ecostyler varieties, and they are definitely NOT like KCCC. Both Ecostylers that I've tried (clear and pink) were very thick and very sticky and gummy in consistency. I found them hard to distribute and had trouble with individual hairs sticking to my hands (and thus being pulled out of their clumps), so I stopped using them. YMMV.


    I'm a good speller! My iPhone keyboard? Not so much.

    +1. Only good thing I can say about Ecostyler is that it was so cheap that I didn't mind throwing it away after one use.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • ItsRainingCurlzItsRainingCurlz Posts: 114Registered Users
    OMG Ecostyler is SO NOT like KKC. Doesn't come close to the hold. I liked KKC enough, but never got the hang of it to make it my HG. I like gels with strong hold like Biosilk Hard Rock Gelee and Albas strong hold gel (which is all natural and only about $6 a pop :) )
    3A Med texture, normal porosity and elasticity
    CG since August 2010 and loving it :wink:
    Currently loving: Giovanni's tea tree low 'poo(once a week), GVP Conditioning Balm or Nubian Heritage Coconut and Papaya Conditioner, Honey DT's, Honey in my gel:P
    Style: Gel Biosilk's Hardrock Gelee(my HG) OR Beyond The Zone Noodle Head Curl Mousse or Alba Botanical Strong Hold Gel


    Loves me some VOLUME So no clumps here, Thanks!
  • springlilyspringlily Posts: 59Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    Rustina wrote: »
    I've tried a couple of Ecostyler varieties, and they are definitely NOT like KCCC. Both Ecostylers that I've tried (clear and pink) were very thick and very sticky and gummy in consistency. I found them hard to distribute and had trouble with individual hairs sticking to my hands (and thus being pulled out of their clumps), so I stopped using them. YMMV.


    I'm a good speller! My iPhone keyboard? Not so much.

    +1. Only good thing I can say about Ecostyler is that it was so cheap that I didn't mind throwing it away after one use.


    I agree with both Rustina and KathyMack regarding Ecostyler. I have used both Ecosytler and KCCC, and I definitely prefer KCCC. I have tried a lot of different types of "curl enhancer" products, and I think KCCC beats them all by a LOOOOONG shot. KCCC is very unique, its a one of a kind product, IMHO. Worth the price.
    Wave, fine, medium texture, color-treated, porous
    Lo Poo: DevaCurl Lo Poo
    CO Wash: VO5 Kiwi Lime
    Condish: Tressemme Naturals Moist and GCP CB
    Leave in: (experimenting but like KCKT)
    PT: (experimenting)
    DT: (experimenting)
    Styling Combos: SS CEJ add SS FHG, KCKT and KCCC
    Experimenting with: Suave Captivating Curls Mouse
    Techniques: Icequeen, Smasters
    Hair Dislikes: glycerin!!
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Thanks for the heads-up about the Eco-Styler - I WILL be staying away from that for sure after hearing this. KCC it will be for my treat!:)
  • bravebrave Posts: 24Registered Users
    Late to the party but agree about the difference between ecostyler and KCCC. KCCC encourages curl whereas eco seemed to encourage more clump. Eco also has a heavy dose of protein. Both had their upsides and if you get it at Sally's, eco is cheap enough to be well worth a shot, but KCCC is more awesome (and smells better).
    Medium porosity, medium texture, iii/2c
    Ingredient buff and believer in the cones.
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    EcoStyler is a gel. They're not at all the same, IMO. When I first started out, I used KCCC as a curl enhancer with a bit of BRHG for additional hold. Never used up the large 16 oz jar before I switched over to other products.

    Now I'm using it again, but differently. I usually use CJCCC lite first, top with a little HESMU, LALSG, or rarely BRHG, diffuse a little then lightly dip my 3 middle fingers in KCCC and scrunch it in for curl enhancement a la the Smasters method. I've been using the same 8 oz. (? - smaller, anyway) jar from Target for at least 6 months that way and have only used maybe a third of the jar.

    However I use it, if I don't let my hair get absolutely dry first, it's very difficult to scrunch it out.

    Love the scent, and it keeps my hair smelling nice for days and days.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I promise - just ONE more question LOL!

    - does one apply the KCC before gel, or after?

    It seems like it would make more sense before, but the person who posted above me says she does it after, as far as I could understand.
    Thanks!:)
  • RingletGirlRingletGirl Posts: 11Registered Users
    I use the KCCC under a hard holding gel - BRHG. It only takes a little bit so it will last you a long time. I use to not like the layering of products like you but mine was out of laziness. Now I layer and I have never had better results. Li with KCCC or another jelly with BRHG on top. It's truly amazing how the layering works and I don't have products like if I would of used a lot of one product. My stylist always tries to put a ton of devacurl angel in and it always feels gross
    3b very fine & very thin, normal porosity
    Modified CG, since September 2006
    Shampoos: Devacurl No Poo or Low Poo, TJ Tea Tree Tingle
    Conditioner: Deva One, GVP Conditioning Balm, TJ Nourish, Kenra & TJ Tea Tree Tingle
    LIs: Curl Friends Replenish, KCKT, Satin Roots
    Stylers: AG:Recoil, Angell, Devacurl Set It Free, KCCC, JC CIAB, JC Pattern Pusha, BRHG
    New HG: Coily Kinks Line - Clean Creme, Satin Roots & Coil Jam
    DT: JC Curl Rehab
    Old HG: Prive Curl Activating Creme - Not GC
  • RingletGirlRingletGirl Posts: 11Registered Users
    On that last post I meant to say producty hair. Dang iPad trying to correct my spelling;)
    3b very fine & very thin, normal porosity
    Modified CG, since September 2006
    Shampoos: Devacurl No Poo or Low Poo, TJ Tea Tree Tingle
    Conditioner: Deva One, GVP Conditioning Balm, TJ Nourish, Kenra & TJ Tea Tree Tingle
    LIs: Curl Friends Replenish, KCKT, Satin Roots
    Stylers: AG:Recoil, Angell, Devacurl Set It Free, KCCC, JC CIAB, JC Pattern Pusha, BRHG
    New HG: Coily Kinks Line - Clean Creme, Satin Roots & Coil Jam
    DT: JC Curl Rehab
    Old HG: Prive Curl Activating Creme - Not GC
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    @RingletGirl - Like you, I'm lazy, plus cheap LOL! What leave in do you use? As I might have mentioned, I've been leery of leave-ins, as they tend to make my hair go limp. Even if I don't rinse every bit of conditioner out of my hair, it will tend to go limp. Sure, my hair might be soft, but the curls droop as a result(2c-3a here). As far as my gel, currently I have the LA Looks Sports Gel, that I moved up to after the old Curl Look was discontinued. I did have a foray with the Nutra-Curl gel, but it was nowhere near as good as the old Curl Look one. I checked out the price of the BRHG, and that's EXPENSIVE for me, at $31 for a 34-oz. bottle LOL! Hopefully I'll be able to make do with the LA Looks gel over the KCC(I haven't bought it just yet).
  • RingletGirlRingletGirl Posts: 11Registered Users
    I use the Kinky Curly Knot Today LI with the KCCC but some people use a regular rinse out as there LI. On the BRHG I think I paid $14 for an 8 oz but it lasts forever since I only use 2 pea size amounts per day, 1 for each size of my head. You could probably use any hard hold gels. I have super fine thin hair and this mix doesn't weigh it down. Also I purchased my KCCC at Target. I got the smaller jar so less of an initial expense.
    3b very fine & very thin, normal porosity
    Modified CG, since September 2006
    Shampoos: Devacurl No Poo or Low Poo, TJ Tea Tree Tingle
    Conditioner: Deva One, GVP Conditioning Balm, TJ Nourish, Kenra & TJ Tea Tree Tingle
    LIs: Curl Friends Replenish, KCKT, Satin Roots
    Stylers: AG:Recoil, Angell, Devacurl Set It Free, KCCC, JC CIAB, JC Pattern Pusha, BRHG
    New HG: Coily Kinks Line - Clean Creme, Satin Roots & Coil Jam
    DT: JC Curl Rehab
    Old HG: Prive Curl Activating Creme - Not GC
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    @RingletGirl - seems like we have different hair LOL! I have fine-ish to medium texture, but a LOT of hair, so that's why I have to pretty much go cheap with products. This, along with my micro-budget for beauty in general(save for my haircuts - I WON'T scrimp on those!) I'm talking tablespoons full of both rinse-out conditioner and gel. A pea-sized blob of anything would take care of just one little strand of my hair LOL! But thanks for all the input! I did see that the use of the Knot Today was highly recommended prior to using the KCC.
  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    @RingletGirl - seems like we have different hair LOL! I have fine-ish to medium texture, but a LOT of hair, so that's why I have to pretty much go cheap with products. This, along with my micro-budget for beauty in general(save for my haircuts - I WON'T scrimp on those!) I'm talking tablespoons full of both rinse-out conditioner and gel. A pea-sized blob of anything would take care of just one little strand of my hair LOL! But thanks for all the input! I did see that the use of the Knot Today was highly recommended prior to using the KCC.
  • aloha13aloha13 Posts: 12Registered Users
    I too have relatively fine, very dense APL hair. I generally need to use quite a bit of conditioner and product to get good coverage. I have both KCCC and a blue (hold of 5) Eco Styler.

    I agree with PP who said that KCCC is a great curl enhancer and Eco Styler is a great clumper. The fun thing about Eco Styler is that it is so inexpensive that it can be fun to play with and experiment with without any worry about using a lot of the product. I find if I water it down, or use it in a supersoaker method, the stickiness (which is much less with the blue lower hold version) is not such a problem.

    As Kathymack said the more expensive products do seem to go a long way with just a little, but I am always a bit more gun-shy with using the amount I probably need due to the expense. I find KCCC takes a bit of playing with to get the hang of it. Most recently I have been using a teeny amount emulsified with Shea Moisture Smoothie to refresh 2nd day hair. It is a product that mixes well with a lot of other things and I would highly recommend it.

    Enjoy your experiments!
    2b, curlier in back, straight underlayer, fine/medium texture, high density, normal porosity & elasticity (CG as of 11/11)

    Low-poo: SMMR, Giovanni TTTT, Kinky Curly Come Clean
    Cowash: VO5 Vanilla Mint
    RO: Deva OneC, GVP CB, GFTN (old formulation)
    LI: KCKT
    PT: Nexxus Emergencee, ION Effective Care, GVP Kpak
    Styling: KCCC, FSG, SM CSM, CJ CCCL, Deva ArcAngel, LALSG, BRHG, KC Pomade
    2nd Day: CJ CCCL, LOOB, KC Styling Spritz

    Still looking for dependable combos.
    Serious PJ in the making...
  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    You might want to check your Target. It might be cheaper there than at WF.

    I have a love/hate relationship with KCCC. This summer it has worked really well for my hair but the past few, not so much. I don't use a leave in and scrunch it in to dripping wet hair. I usually top with a harder hold gel like AIF or BRHG.
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • kimmidawnkimmidawn Posts: 900Registered Users
    My hair is also fine texture but a lot of it, and I really like KCCC. It gives me a lot of curl enhancement, but I definitely have to add a hard hold gel on top to get any sort of staying power. When I diffuse and add the hard hold gel on top, I can get nice second day hair. Your curl pattern is a bit stronger than mine so you might not need a hard hold gel, but it never hurts to try.
    2b, fine texture, normal porosity & elasticity (CG as of 12/2011)

    Low-poo: UFD Rich & Funky
    Cowash: VO5 Kiwi Lime
    RO: Tresemme Naturals, Aubrey Organics GPB, Ion Effective Care, MillCreek Keratin
    PT/DT: IAgirl's PT, GVP CB
    LI: KCKT, Cure Care, CJ CCCC Lite
    Styling: Curl Keeper, As I Am Jelly, UFD Curly Magic, CJ Curl Queen, TIGI Strong Hold Mousse


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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    You might want to check your Target. It might be cheaper there than at WF.

    I have a love/hate relationship with KCCC. This summer it has worked really well for my hair but the past few, not so much. I don't use a leave in and scrunch it in to dripping wet hair. I usually top with a harder hold gel like AIF or BRHG.

    I think the small jar - 8 oz., I think - was about $13 at Target. IIRC, I paid about $30 for the large jar I bought a few years ago at WF
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett