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Wave "clumps"?

Im not really sure what to call them, but whenever I diffuse my hair, it comes out in small wavy strands, like when my hair is wet. Is there any way to make the strands bigger and less stringy and skinny?

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  • rainboerainboe Posts: 284Registered Users
    When do you apply product? It helps to apply product straight out of the shower to soaking wet hair. Also, try plopping for a few minutes. Different styling products can help too.
    Fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity. Dyed to brown a few months ago.
    Lowpoo: Trader Joe's TTT Shampoo
    Rinse Out:
    Yes to Carrots, AOHR, Aubrey Organics Rosemary Peppermint
    LI: Yes to Carrots
    Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, LA Looks Sports, Suave Professionals Captivating Curls Whipped Mousse
  • anonymous_115090anonymous_115090 Posts: 25Registered Users
    Yeah, I apply products right out of the shower then diffuse. I'm going to try new products today to see what is better:)
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My hair gets stringy when I use a leave-in. Not sure if that is what's happening with you, but just thought I'd mention it in case that's the problem.
    2/c Coarse hair med. density.
    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower:
  • PerriPPerriP Posts: 6,613Registered Users
    The "super soaker" method may help (it's listed in the technique sticky). I do a modified version of that to encourage clumping. You may have to play around with it to find how it best works for you. And, the method really seems counter-intuitive, the brush (i use fine toothed comb) which separates things to actually make it clump more... But try it a time or two, it could be exactly what you're looking for

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  • anonymous_115090anonymous_115090 Posts: 25Registered Users
    I searched around for the "super soaker" thing and I couldn't find it. How do I get to the technique sticky?
  • SaraNoHSaraNoH Posts: 827Registered Users
    BerryK wrote: »
    I searched around for the "super soaker" thing and I couldn't find it. How do I get to the technique sticky?

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/112371-techniques-links-supersoaker-spritz-condish-plopping-frizz-clipping-icequeen-etc.html
    CG Birthday: 7/25/11
    Type 3a/2c
    Dense, Fine in front Coarse in back, Low porosity
    Low-Poo: SM Moisture Retention Shampoo
    Rinse Out: Tresemme Naturals
    Leave In: ^^^^
    Stylers: AIF, Natural Silks Curly Gel
    *Desert Curly*
  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 8,424Administrators, Moderators Administrator
    Rake your wet hair with your fingers to create bigger clumps. And if you could plop instead of diffuse I think you'd have better luck. If you must diffuse, be very, very gentle.

    Gretchen
    NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
    3A

    You are beautiful!
  • Bookworm5Bookworm5 Posts: 102Registered Users
    Ditto on the fine toothed comb! Not sure what your hair type is, but mine is baby fine and wavy curly and I've had the best luck lately with applying KCCC to very wet (not dripping) hair, combing through to distribute, then scrunching in BRHG, blotting/scrunching a few times with my DevaCurl towel, and pixiecurl diffusing. If I just scrunch product in or wait until my hair is less wet to apply, I get the thin, stringy type curls I'd rather not have.

    Good luck!
    48 y/o married mom of 3 :binky:
    3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

    No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

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    Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse
  • anonymous_115090anonymous_115090 Posts: 25Registered Users
    My hair isn't too fine, but I will try that:) thanks for the ideas!
  • curlychickiecurlychickie Posts: 11Registered Users
    I'm new to this too and still in the early experimental stage.

    Anyway, question to Bookworm5 on applying KCCC and BRHG... are you applying right side up or upside down? You note that your hair is very wet, but not dripping. I'm currently applying it upside down, soaking wet, combing through and although I get good distribution, I find that once I flip my head back over I have to rake my fingers through my hair once again to get it to fall correctly and not be all nappy. It seems counterproductive to the scrunching I do upside down. I ask because my hair is similar to yours - 2c with some 3A, fine, medium density, low porosity.
    CG since: 7/04/12
    Type 2c/3a - Med Dense, Fine, Low porosity
    Poo:Deva LowPoo, Dr. Bronner baby mild soap
    Co-wash/RO: DevaOne Cond, VO5 Straw & Cream
    Leave In: KCKT or Cond
    Stylers: ReCoil, DevaAngel, KCCC, BRHG
    DT: CJ Rehab
    Liking coconut oil and plopping. Still exploring proteins.
  • PerriPPerriP Posts: 6,613Registered Users
    I realize the question wasn't for me, but what I do is put a light layer of KCCC right side up then flip over and scrunch more upside down. I've been using the comb while upside down, too. Then upside down BRHG slowly raise my head and finger place what needs to be fixed. Then ear to shoulder head tilt for side re scrunching if necessary.

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  • PerriPPerriP Posts: 6,613Registered Users
    I knew I missed a step as I was typing! After the upside down comb through, before my BRHG I do modified super soaker at the sink, scrunching in some water. Blot with microfiber towel, then do the upside down BRHG.

    I know it sounds convoluted but I hope it helps

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  • Bookworm5Bookworm5 Posts: 102Registered Users
    Hi, CurlyChickie! I lightly blot my hair just enough to keep it from dripping and then I smooth and rake the KCCC into my hair both right side up and upside down, roots to tips, trying to distribute as well as possible, then I comb through upside down and again right side up. I then flip upside down, insert my fingers into my hair at the roots and just jiggle them a little to move the hair off my scalp, then scrunch BRHG into my hair upside down, then side to side while right side up, finger placing anything that needs to be moved, as PerriP said.

    I was having trouble getting my roots covered well enough with product without combing, and so when I tried to move my hair back into place it would cause clumps to break apart and frizz to form. With the thorough combing, I'm no longer having this problem. Super clumping and zero frizz!

    HTH!
    48 y/o married mom of 3 :binky:
    3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

    No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

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    Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse
  • curlychickiecurlychickie Posts: 11Registered Users
    Aha! Thank you so much for clarifying Bookworm5. I can't wait to try that technique out.
    CG since: 7/04/12
    Type 2c/3a - Med Dense, Fine, Low porosity
    Poo:Deva LowPoo, Dr. Bronner baby mild soap
    Co-wash/RO: DevaOne Cond, VO5 Straw & Cream
    Leave In: KCKT or Cond
    Stylers: ReCoil, DevaAngel, KCCC, BRHG
    DT: CJ Rehab
    Liking coconut oil and plopping. Still exploring proteins.
  • curlychickiecurlychickie Posts: 11Registered Users
    Thank you also PerriP for your suggestions.

    I think I'm going to have to run out and get some BRHG. I'm noticing lots of wavies are using it and are happy with the results. I'm thinking the DevaAngel is contributing to the stringyness and lack of curl.
    CG since: 7/04/12
    Type 2c/3a - Med Dense, Fine, Low porosity
    Poo:Deva LowPoo, Dr. Bronner baby mild soap
    Co-wash/RO: DevaOne Cond, VO5 Straw & Cream
    Leave In: KCKT or Cond
    Stylers: ReCoil, DevaAngel, KCCC, BRHG
    DT: CJ Rehab
    Liking coconut oil and plopping. Still exploring proteins.
  • Bookworm5Bookworm5 Posts: 102Registered Users
    You're welcome! Yes, BRHG is amazing! It's the only hard hold gel I've tried, so I don't know how it compares with anything else, but I find I must use it or my hair falls flat.

    Good luck! Please post your results!

    BerryK, any luck with new techniques yet?
    48 y/o married mom of 3 :binky:
    3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

    No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

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    Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse
  • lucyprimroselucyprimrose Posts: 166Registered Users
    I have wavy hair which can do the stringy thing when diffused and I'm still working it out, but so far as I've got I think this helps. While you hair is still very wet put in some leave in conditioner if you use one, and drop or two of sealant if you use one. For styler, I'd use gel, if diffusing, or possibly curl cream depending on how much hold you need. Not mousse, that can be string inducing. The most important thing is as you put the gel on to take sections which you intend to clump and twist/fingertwirl them between your fingers then scrunch a bit, till that clump looks fairly held together. Finally when all clumps are done, take a tiny bit of gel and just scrunch around a bit, not disturbing the curl, then pixie diffuse.
    UK based wavy :hello2:

    Mostly waves, but curls and straight bits too!
    Fine to medium, high porosity, medium density, very low elasticity
    Highlights damage (growing it out), seems to like protein and need lots of moisture.

    Cleanse - CJDF, trying out low poos ; Co wash- Uk chemist brands, Urtekram Rose or Aloe, Hairveda Amala Cream Rinse; RO - varies, Tigi Moisture Maniac, Desert Essence Coconut ; Leave in - Keracare natural textures; Sealant - argan oil
    Trying out new things, still looking.
  • SpiralSpunkSpiralSpunk Posts: 243Registered Users
    I'm having the same problem and gonna your suggestions tomorrow Bookworm5. But what's BRHG? And do you use a leave-in?
  • Bookworm5Bookworm5 Posts: 102Registered Users
    SpiralSpunk, BRHG = Biosilk Rock Hard Gellee - and boy, is it rock hard! It is a favorite of many, it seems :)
    48 y/o married mom of 3 :binky:
    3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

    No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fmyhair123.shutterfly.com%2Fpictures%2F5" class="Popup

    Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse
  • Bookworm5Bookworm5 Posts: 102Registered Users
    BerryK, have you had any luck getting better clumps?
    48 y/o married mom of 3 :binky:
    3a Baby fine Cherub Curls! Low porosity, normal elasticity

    No longer CG - I use cones & shampoo every 2 - 3 days

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fmyhair123.shutterfly.com%2Fpictures%2F5" class="Popup

    Currently trying: Aveda Shampure Shampoo & Conditioner, Aveda Be Curly Shampoo & Conditioner, Suave Captivating Curls Mousse, Condition 3 in 1 Mousse
  • anonymous_115090anonymous_115090 Posts: 25Registered Users
    I will say that I've had better "clumps" just by plopping for about 10-15 min. and then carefully diffusing. About the third time I did this, I had the most AMAZING hair (for me, at least). It was better than anything I could've asked for.

    But I can't get it to be like that or anything close:(

    So I'm pretty sad because it really got my hopes up after all summer of trying new things and not liking them one bit.

    I do have two questions though:

    Does diffusing your hair upside down make a difference in how your curls react?

    Does air drying make your curls better, or does it make any difference?
  • elizardelizard Posts: 284Registered Users
    hi everyone,

    i see a lot of people talking about clumps, and i think i have a good idea of what people are referring to... but it would be super helpful to me and maybe other newbies if someone could post some pictures of what hair looks like with and without clumps.

    TIA!
    2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
    medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
    hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

    low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
    RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
    stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
    DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF