Introduction to the no-poo method

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Thank you VERY MUCH to esteemed CurlTalker HalfWavyHalfCurly (Raquel J. Aguiar) for writing this wonderful explanantion for us.


INTRODUCTION TO CG:

"CG" is a CurlTalk abbreviation for "Curly Girl," a book written by Lorraine Massey and Deborah Chiel, which advocates embracing our natural hair. With this objective in mind, Massey describes a new and revolutionary routine to accomplish healthy, well-behaved waves, curls and coils.

Although the very best way to do this routine is AFTER reading the book, we understand that many people just can’t wait another day because their hair is begging for help, so in order to make this easier here’s the basic guidelines of the routine:

Ia. The first step is to either totally eliminate or seriously limit the use of shampoo to cleanse our hair and scalp, the second is to use a clear gel to help keep frizz out, and the third to handle the hair in a very gentle manner; the book included many pictures that illustrate how it’s done.

The premise for this is tri-fold: 1) the fact that most commercial shampoos contain surfactants that are too harsh for our hair and tend to rob our hair of moisture, 2) that our hair tends to be more porous than straight hair, which makes totally rinsing out all traces of shampoo virtually impossible and that residue causes frizz, 3) the fact that most conditioners (COs) contain mild surfactants that paired up with a little manual friction are more than able to lift off dirt, debris and excess oil from our scalp and hair.

It is necessary to eliminate the use of most silicones (‘cones for short) from our hair care routine because most can only be removed from the hair with rather harsh shampoos. Washing with a CO while using them would cause them to quickly build up on the hair and this results in dull, matted hair and poor curl definition.

Ib. Choosing a good CO for CG - here is what we should look for in the label:

Emollients - soften, smooth the hair and give it shine. There are hundreds of them, natural ones include all vegetable oils and nut butters, others more widely u sed are glycerides and liposomes.

Proteins - temporarily “repair” the hair and/or protect it. Occasionally proteins will build up on some people’s hair, this is really more likely to happen on healthy or relatively healthy hair. In case of any concern, just alternate with a protein-free CO. Examples of them are silk, soy, wheat, keratin or individual amino acids (components of proteins).

Humectancts - absorb water and hold in moisture. They are absolutely crucial in a CO for curly hair. Panthenol, vegetable glycerin, sorbitol and honey are just a few humectants to look for on the label.

Moisturizers - add softens and control to curly hair. Amino acids and aloe vera are two great moisturizers.

Ic. HOW TO DO A CO-WASH:

After wetting your hair thoroughly, pour a dime sized amount in your hand and using the pads of your fingertips apply to one spot of your scalp and massage well, just as you would with shampoo. Repeat until you've scrubbed all over, then rinse ALL the CO off with plenty of warm water, still gently massaging with your fingertips so the friction will dissolve any residue. Next, pour more CO in your hand (sometimes another richer CO is necessary for this step), rub your palms together and apply over the length as you normally did in the past. Try to detangle with your fingers or with a very wide-tooth comb. For extra moisturizing clip your hair up and continue with your shower, then when you're done set the water as cool as is comfortable to you and rinse your head for just a second or two, gently squeeze the excess water off.

II. Choosing a gel - must be 'cone-free and preferably clear so it will allow the natural shine through.

III. Styling our curls - The main points are: 1) to NOT ever brush our hair; 2) to detangle it only when wet and soaked in conditioner, using a wide-tooth comb or whenever possible just our fingers; 3) to NEVER rub our hair with the towel* but to gently blot the water off using scrunching motions with it; 4) to apply product gently preferably by scrunching; 5) to air dry our hair whenever possible or diffuse only partially to avoid frizz and 6) not touch it while it's drying.

*[url=http:www.//curlmart.com/Aquis-Mimis-Diva-Dryer-Hair-Towel-p-156.html]microfiber[/url] towel works best.

IV. Clarifying - Sometimes it can happen that all residue from our gel, oils, etc. may not rinse off with with water and CO and we get a little "buildup". Very often it's easy to notice right away that our hair feels "gunky" but other times our hair just seems to stop responding to the routine, it may begin to tangle easily or our curls loose definition and shine; clarifying will refresh them and usually bring the bounce back. The recipes for natural clarifiers can be found in the forum section titled “Recipes – for hair and body”.


MODIFIED CG FOR WAVIES:

The author concedes to the fact that some people may have to continue using shampoo (hopefully a lot less often than before) because of an oily scalp, this is usually more common in those with wavy hair. To avoid drying the hair, here's the CG way to use shampoo:

1) Wet hair under a gentle shower. 2) Take a tablespoon of CO and using your fingers, lightly coat your hair from the ends to the midshaft. This hair has been around longer than the hair at the roots and needs more lubrication. The CO protects the hair by not allowing shampoo to penetrate and dehydrate the shaft. 3) If you're using shampoo, squeeze a half teaspoon* (no more) onto your fingertips and apply it gently to the scalp and roots only. don't use your nails. Start at the forehead and work around the scalp, then rinse thoroughly. 4) Add a half teaspoon of CO to your hair and work it through with your fingers. Then rinse quickly, for just a few seconds. No you're ready to blot-dry your hair.

*Diluting this amount in an ounce of water or so makes it much easier to distribute and gentler to the scalp.

Thank you VERY MUCH to esteemed CurlTalker HalfWavyHalfCurly (Raquel J. Aguiar) for writing this wonderful explanantion for us.

Gretchen
NaturallyCurly.com co-founder
3A

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  • RedheadCurly2007RedheadCurly2007 Posts: 230Registered Users
    Thanks a million, I am cutting and pasting that into my files.
    Red
    3B, CG,Corkscrew
    Xtramoist shampoo, Fastfood leave on, Recoil, varnish Gel-Herbal Essances, Totally Twisted
    Irish-American Curly
    Never try to be something you are not, and never be afraid to be who you are.
    RedheadCurly
  • KellKell Posts: 201Registered Users
    I am all for not shampooing. I did it when I was wearing my hair straight and it had never been better! I havent tried it with my curls yet, but Im goint to do it tonight! :twisted:

    thx
    J&J Baby Shampoo fugged up my hair! :thumbdown:
  • holly8holly8 Posts: 632Registered Users
    does the deman D4 brush counts? people brush in the product while their hair is still wet.
    Natural since Jan 2,07
    I did a BC
    Hair type:3C\3B
    Multi-racial hair
    Hair length:Started at neck and ears(in its curly state).In Dec 08 (2 years natural) My hair was somewhere near armpit length with bentonite clay in my hair.

    Mission: to obtain healthy hair every day!!

    Hair products:homemade products.....


    :angel1::love5:
  • echokittenechokitten Posts: 1,751Registered Users
    Don't forget to clarify with a sulphate shampoo first, before starting CG. Any sulphate shampoo will do if is silicone free.
    Cincinnati Ohio>>>Coarse protein sensitive 3a, Jessicurl WDT as a leave in, Biotera gel, White Boots, PW= coffeecurls

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  • lorrnaelorrnae Posts: 134Registered Users
    Thanks, for making this topic.
    4a/Fine Strands/Medium Length/Low Porosity
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    My product routine is currently a work in progress.
  • curlydanicurlydani Posts: 45Registered Users
    so co washing is basically washing your hair w/o shampoo and just using conditioner?
    I think i get it now...:)
    3B/Cish- thick, just above shoulders


    Shampoo: Giovanni 50:50 Balanced
    Conditioner:Suave Daily Clarifying Conditioner
    Leave-In: still looking...
    Styler: KCCC


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  • merebearmerebear Posts: 190Registered Users
    any suggestions?
    MereBear
    2B-2C - very wavy with loose ringlets
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  • merebearmerebear Posts: 190Registered Users
    very impressive AND should be a "must read" for "newbies"...that was incredibly sweet of you to take your time to write and share...
    MereBear
    2B-2C - very wavy with loose ringlets
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    :wav:
  • curly01curly01 Posts: 284Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I have the [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-No-Poo-p-53.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-devacurl-nopoo]Deva No poo[/buylink], but am now wondering if that was a waste. What is the difference in using the No Poo (maybe once a week) vs. just co washing. Does anyone co wash daily and no poo weekly - or some other variation of these two? Or is even the co wash not suppose to be daily? Sorry, just trying to get off to a CG good start!
  • merebearmerebear Posts: 190Registered Users
    I know!!! I am not sure what I am doing either...I just let my hair dictate to me what I need do. I've been lightly washing my scalp with Aubrey's HR shampoo every other day and conditioning daily with the HR condish. Seems to be working. Last week I didn't use shampoo at all and just used conditoner and my scalp was itchy. Wavies seem to produce more oil than say a 3-B or 3-C...they can go without shampoo. I'd love to have hair that curly!!!
    Let me know what you find out.
    MereBear
    2B-2C - very wavy with loose ringlets
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  • curly01curly01 Posts: 284Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Merebear, I decided to start a new thread with these questions. Just so it wouldn't get lost in the shuffle.
    Maybe we'll get some helpful tips from that! The folks on here seem to have really helpful information!
    I posted it this morning.
  • merebearmerebear Posts: 190Registered Users
    cool - I will look for it!! :roll:
    MereBear
    2B-2C - very wavy with loose ringlets
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  • tulipantulipan Posts: 209Registered Users
    Merci:) Now I understand everything.
    3A/M/iii
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    full CG routine works for my hair!

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    Sorry for my mistakes in english! This is not my main language. I'm still learning!
  • UTgalUTgal Posts: 320Registered Users
    As a newbie, thank you very much for the clear and concise instructions!
    2c w/a bit of 3a
    Fine & plentiful, no dyes
    bioInfusion the Gentle One Shampoo
    Currently loving:
    Deva ArcAngell
    Deva Set it Free

    Curly since 6/17/2008.
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  • Melanie_LinnMelanie_Linn Posts: 457Registered Users
    thank you so much, now i know what to do with my curls!
    3c/4aMCiii normal/low porosity med elasticty

    Shampoo- JC Hydrating Invigorating poo, Alaffia Shea & Virgin Coconut Enriching Shampoo, CV poo bars
    Rinse out- Natures gate hemp, GSAS
    Leave in- GDLI, Beautiful Curls Curl Activating Leave in
    DT- Still working on that
    Styler- Ecostyler Crystal, Queen Helene Royal Curl Creme
    Sealer- castor, Shea butter,jojoba oil

    I don't know how well I'll keep it up, my blog The Lions Mane
  • Laura P.Laura P. Posts: 23Registered Users
    just tried it last night, using just conditioner to wash my hair, and there is a big improvement re: frizzies (it's over 90 and very humid here in NYC). I've got very dry hair, and there is no such thing as too much moisture, especially in this weather! Glad I found this board.

    Laura P.
    type 3A/3B
  • Kathy450Kathy450 Posts: 25Registered Users
    This seems like agreat idea - as my hair is always so fluffy and puffy! Ill try it out and save on shampoo products too!
  • smo6767smo6767 Posts: 409Registered Users
    I don't completely do the no-poo method, I use my own homemade shampoo made from castile soap and herbs once every other day. The castile soap gets rid of residue and the herbs make my hair so healthy. I'm otherwise using suave naturals conditioner. I love the waterfall mist and green apple!:toothy7:
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  • paulabloodpaulablood Posts: 6Registered Users
    I have 3b hair not color-treated, fairly dry with some frizz.
    I want to try the no-poo but I have a question. I did try to search for the answer as I know it has been asked before.
    Do I use a daily conditioner or a deep conditioner ? and do I condition everyday or every other day or what?
    I'm confused.
    I'm supposed to use no poo and only conditioner ? I wish there was some product finder to tell me exactly what to order, I am so excited about this site but overwelmed!! I don't know what to buy!!

    please help me....... I so what to try a curly cocktail but don't have 80 bucks right now!! I did hint to the hubby for a present however.
    3b
  • isaisa Posts: 13Registered Users
    Where can I get a no-poo shampoo my friend told me about. Don't know the name but I know there is one?

    Thanks
    Isabel
  • isaisa Posts: 13Registered Users
    Where can I get a no-poo shampoo my friend told me about. Don't know the name but I know there is one?

    Thanks
    Isabel
  • curlyelkacurlyelka Posts: 5Registered Users
    you can get it right here. its a deva product. or do a seach for deva curl. it's also a ulta. good luck!
  • KurleeEdnaKurleeEdna Posts: 714Registered Users
    OK... just hoping to get someone's attention.

    Though I've been here for many months now, I actually re-read the no-poo sticky because someone on another thread had mentioned that going CG meant no shampoo at all.

    From my understanding, it's because of the surfectants in the shampoos. Does that include non-sulfate shampoos?

    I'm currently using an organic, non-sulfate shampoo because though my 3C curls are dry, my scalp is oily. (I have a bad case of dandruff or "chronic seborrheic dermatitis" as my dermatologist called it.) This shampoo has helped my scalp, and I feel that my hair is still quite healthy.

    So... is this CG? Is it modified CG? Am I going against the CG bible and thus deemed a curly heretic? :roll:
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  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    KurleeEdna wrote: »
    OK... just hoping to get someone's attention.

    Though I've been here for many months now, I actually re-read the no-poo sticky because someone on another thread had mentioned that going CG meant no shampoo at all.

    From my understanding, it's because of the surfectants in the shampoos. Does that include non-sulfate shampoos?

    I'm currently using an organic, non-sulfate shampoo because though my 3C curls are dry, my scalp is oily. (I have a bad case of dandruff or "chronic seborrheic dermatitis" as my dermatologist called it.) This shampoo has helped my scalp, and I feel that my hair is still quite healthy.

    So... is this CG? Is it modified CG? Am I going against the CG bible and thus deemed a curly heretic? :roll:

    It depends on the ingredients, really. A shampoo without 'sulfates' but with other detergents would be considered a "low poo" and you'd be modified CG. I'm GUESSING that's where your product falls, but it's hard to say for certain without knowing the ingredients.

    That being said, if you find something that works for you, go with it. Don't worry about the labels :)
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • KurleeEdnaKurleeEdna Posts: 714Registered Users
    OK.... I took a closer look at the ingredients in my Max Green Alchemy [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Max-Green-Alchemy-Scalp-Rescue-Shampoo-p-965.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=Max-Green-Alchemy-Scalp-Rescue-Shampoo]Scalp Rescue Shampoo[/buylink]. They're mostly plants, but note the items in BOLD. They're not sulfates, just coconut-derived cleansers.

    Purified Water, Aqueous Herbal Extract (Glycyrrhiza Glabra* (licorice) Root, Tussilago Farfara+ (coltsfoot) Leaf, Achillea Millefolium* (yarrow), Salix Alba+ (willow), Tabebuia Impetiginosa+ (pau díarco), Arctium Lappa* (burdock) Root, Berberis Aquifolium (mahonia), Calendula Officinalis* (calendula), Equisetum Arvense* (horsetail), Urtica Dioica* (nettles)), Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate (coconut derived surfactant), Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine (coconut derived surfactant), Sucrose Cocoate (sugar/coconut emulsifier), Coco-Betaine (coconut derived surfactant), Leptospermum Petersonii (lemon tea tree), Melaleuca Alternifolia* (tea tree), Lavandula Angustifolia* (lavender), Pelargonium Capitatum* (geranium), Rosemarinus Officinalis* (rosemary), Oryzanol (rice extract), Hydrolysed Soy Protein (hair strengthener), Glycerine (vegetable source), Panthenol (pro vitamin B5), Sodium Chloride (solar sea salt), Macadamia* Ternifolia (macadamia) Seed Oil, Parfum (fragrance of plant origin), Xanthan Gum, Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin C ester), Aloe Barbadensis* (aloe vera) Leaf, Mixed Tocopherols (plant derived GMO-free vitamin E).
    * Organic + Wildcrafted

    So... I guess... that would make me a modified CGer.
    For those who feel the need to shampoo, I highly recommend this stuff! :thumbright:


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  • MimsTXMimsTX Posts: 3,482Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    yep, you'd be mod :)

    LOTS of people really like the coco-betaine stuff. I've actually convinced my mother to use a shampoo with that instead of SLS, and used it once... feels quite nice :)
    CG/Mod CG (soap bars) since 8/12/08
    CO wash/Cond: Kathymack & Flowermoon Castille soap bars, V05 Chamomile Tea, Suave Ocean Breeze, Biolage Conditioning Balm
    Styling loves: DIFFUSING! CK, KCNT, KCCC, FOTE (on dry hair only), Re:coil, Proclaim gel
    Not sure about: Boots, Tweek, KBB Milk, DMHJ
    HATE: plopping, FOTE on wet hair, BRHG
  • boticellicurlsboticellicurls Posts: 17Registered Users
    Ready to begin CG tonight. I'm so excited! :)

    I'm all set to throw out my shampoo bottles. But do I need to shampoo one last time before I start CG?
  • susieQ730susieQ730 Posts: 97Registered Users
    Yes, with a shampoo that contains sulfates but not any "cones". Any of the Sauve Naturals is good to use. Welcome to CG!
    CG since 7/08--Eastern PA
    3a fine/medium, normal to low porosity, med density
    CO wash/Cond: LVPNG, Kenra, TIGI MM
    Styling: GDLI, CK and any gel
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  • CurlyGirlyStephCurlyGirlySteph Posts: 11Registered Users
    Thankyou so, so much!:flower:
  • nessababynessababy Posts: 2Registered Users
    1. I am very intrigued by this no-poo business, I am excited about testing it out to free my inner curls, however I have a couple of questions. I understand that with this method, you are to clean your hair with a conditioner without sulfates, but do many conditioners have sulfates? I am using Pantene pro-v, but the problem is, I can't read the back of the bottle because it is in Korean as I am living here in Korea teaching English. Can anyone tell me if this conditioner is ok to use? And if it isn't what are some big brand names that are ok.
    2. I read in a couple of places that with this method you only need to wash your hair with conditioner once to two weeks. The other days of the week, are you wetting your hair and conditioning?
    Thanks for the help.
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