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Louisiana: Loch Ness Monster is real and is a dinosaur; Catholicism is evil

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  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    Insanity. And made even more ridiculous by public funding.
  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,937Registered Users
    Before this even kicks off, can we point out that not all children in Louisiana are being taught this?
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    CGNYC wrote: »
    Before this even kicks off, can we point out that not all children in Louisiana are being taught this?
    Yeah, I said "can learn," but in the midst of this inanity it might be overlooked.

    It's also worth noting that the state government is clearly okay with this curriculum. (ed: On second thought, I may be wrong about how vouchers are issued)
    Thousands of children in the southern state will receive publicly-funded vouchers for the next school year to attend private schools where Scotland's most famous mythological beast will be taught as a real living creature.
    It's odd, though, since the state has a large Catholic population (which obviously isn't anti-Catholic), and Catholicism endorses the theory of evolution. Anyway, I'm waiting for the US Supreme Court to lay the smackdown on this.
  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Don't all/most/many states issue vouchers for private and religion-based schools?

    They do here in Ohio.

  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Don't all/most/many states issue vouchers for private and religion-based schools?
    I think so, but I believe it's a complicated process that varies from state to state. I may not be remembering correctly, though.
  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,937Registered Users
    Louisiana is mostly Catholic in the south but mostly Baptist in the north - and there aren't a lot if casual Baptists. There are also a lot of people who send their kids to religious schools and never really investigate what that means. They hear "conservative Christian" and that's good enough. LOTS of Christian schools use that Abeka business and parents are surprised when I point out what Abeka is really all about.
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    CGNYC wrote: »
    Louisiana is mostly Catholic in the south but mostly Baptist in the north - and there aren't a lot if casual Baptists. There are also a lot of people who send their kids to religious schools and never really investigate what that means. They hear "conservative Christian" and that's good enough. LOTS of Christian schools use that Abeka business and parents are surprised when I point out what Abeka is really all about.
    Thanks, I'm glad to know more about the context of this, especially since that article is from a Scottish newspaper.

    My feeling is that even if you (general you) don't believe in evolution, your kid still needs to understand what it's about. You can teach them it's not true, but if they don't know anything about it then they may have trouble in college and in their careers.
  • sleepymekosleepymeko Posts: 1,002Registered Users
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  • NetGNetG Posts: 8,116Registered Users
    I didn't see the part about Catholocism, but could see that happening, too.

    Which is as abhorrent as Catholicism support hatred and bigotry toward any other group. Just for the record....

    And CGNYC thanks for sharing your more knowledgeable input. :)
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    NetG wrote: »
    I didn't see the part about Catholocism, but could see that happening, too.
    It's in the article, but it's buried in the middle of a paragraph:

    "The textbooks in the series are alleged to teach young earth creationism; are hostile towards other religions and other sectors of Christianity, including Roman Catholicism; and present a biased version of history that is often factually incorrect."
  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    CGNYC wrote: »
    Louisiana is mostly Catholic in the south but mostly Baptist in the north - and there aren't a lot if casual Baptists. There are also a lot of people who send their kids to religious schools and never really investigate what that means. They hear "conservative Christian" and that's good enough. LOTS of Christian schools use that Abeka business and parents are surprised when I point out what Abeka is really all about.
    Thanks, I'm glad to know more about the context of this, especially since that article is from a Scottish newspaper.

    My feeling is that even if you (general you) don't believe in evolution, your kid still needs to understand what it's about. You can teach them it's not true, but if they don't know anything about it then they may have trouble in college and in their careers.

    An old coworker of mine was home-schooled and didn't even know the idea of evolution existed until he went to some museums as an older teen/adult.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Ugh...Louisiana...embarrassing us in front of the world...again...
  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,937Registered Users
    Such a little sunbeam.

    Anyway, there are a lot of areas in Louisiana where the public schools just aren't that great. People will put their kids in a small Christian school because it's better than the local public school, if nothing else. A lot of people either don't investigate the whole curriculum or decide that even if their kids don't learn about evolution, at least they'll be able to read and they'll be safe.

    We moved to avoid that situation. We're still in state and my daughter's school is fantastic, but you don't have to go very far to find schools where most of the kids are below grade level in just about everything. It's sad but large parts of Louisiana are really poor and where you have poverty, you don't have a lot of good schools.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    The Loch Ness Monster, eh? no words, no words...
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Ugh...Louisiana...embarrassing us in front of the world...again...
    Nah, Florida is where the really crazy ish goes down. (Sorry Floridian curlies, but you know it's true.) The internet's favorite guessing game is "Florida or Germany/Austria?"
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    The Loch Ness Monster, eh? no words, no words...
    If you don't believe in Nessie then you don't believe in Christ :usa2:
  • sleepymekosleepymeko Posts: 1,002Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Ugh...Louisiana...embarrassing us in front of the world...again...
    Nah, Florida is where the really crazy ish goes down. (Sorry Floridian curlies, but you know it's true.) The internet's favorite guessing game is "Florida or Germany/Austria?"

    This is true :laughing3:
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Ugh...Louisiana...embarrassing us in front of the world...again...
    Nah, Florida is where the really crazy ish goes down. (Sorry Floridian curlies, but you know it's true.) The internet's favorite guessing game is "Florida or Germany/Austria?"



    How about Texas? They re-wrote a bunch of history textbooks to say the Founding Fathers wanted god in the Constitution, erased evolution, and whitewashed slavery. And, since Texas is such a large buyer of textbooks (they're the size of...a country!), they can influence textbooks all over the country. Pretty embarrassing...and funking crazy.

    America's South...SMDH...
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    How about Texas?
    Well sure, that's bad. But I'm talking about bizarre occurrences like the face-eating zombie apocalypse.

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  • legendslegends Posts: 3,073Registered Users
    There's something seriously wrong when the catholic church's teaching on subject is more progressive than yours, you know?

    Another article:
    Whether this gambit will help move Louisiana from the bottom of math and science rankings in the country is unclear.
    :laughing9: I can just picture the writer's face when she wrote that line.
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  • NetGNetG Posts: 8,116Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote: »
    Ugh...Louisiana...embarrassing us in front of the world...again...
    Nah, Florida is where the really crazy ish goes down. (Sorry Floridian curlies, but you know it's true.) The internet's favorite guessing game is "Florida or Germany/Austria?"


    My state isn't so great, either. We tend to be behind both in education, and have a governor who doesn't believe in education. It's hard to get worse than the combination of that and SB1070.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I live in an extremely progressive state and we're 42nd in terms of state funding for education. Even the supreme court agrees our schools are underfunded. I think pretty much the entire country is an embarrassment these days.
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  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    I couldnt get through the whole article. I was laughing to hard!! So is Bobby Jindel backing this? If so I'm not surprised! He'll do anything to fit in with the "cool kids" and seem less Indian.
  • poisonivypoisonivy Posts: 1,551Registered Users
    legends wrote: »
    There's something seriously wrong when the catholic church's teaching on subject is more progressive than yours, you know?

    Another article:
    Whether this gambit will help move Louisiana from the bottom of math and science rankings in the country is unclear.
    :laughing9: I can just picture the writer's face when she wrote that line.

    "Catholic theologians contend that natural reason being a God-given capacity, is not opposed to the Church's teachings, and hence never contradict each other.[1] The role of Catholic Church, throughout history, has therefore led to progress of science and intuitive reasoning."

    There is a very long list of Catholic scientists who have contributed to society in big ways. With the support of the hierarchy btw.
  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    I went to a school that used that curriculum. It didn't make me believe in Nessie, hate Catholics, or not believe in evolution. I mostly just laughed at it because I knew that stuff was stupid.
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  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    I went to a school that used that curriculum. It didn't make me believe in Nessie, hate Catholics, or not believe in evolution. I mostly just laughed at it because I knew that stuff was stupid.

    Maybe this is a stupid question, but how did you know better? My Christian-home-schooled co-worker said he honestly didn't have ANY exposure to evolution prior to going out on his own. I'm sure being in a regular school is different than homeschooling, but I still wonder.
  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    I went to a school that used that curriculum. It didn't make me believe in Nessie, hate Catholics, or not believe in evolution. I mostly just laughed at it because I knew that stuff was stupid.

    Maybe this is a stupid question, but how did you know better? My Christian-home-schooled co-worker said he honestly didn't have ANY exposure to evolution prior to going out on his own. I'm sure being in a regular school is different than homeschooling, but I still wonder.
    I read a lot, and honestly, it just was too stupid to be believed. I have great parents who were very involved in my education and filled in a lot of the gaps my curriculum, plus they always encouraged me to be an independent learner. If something sounded wonky, I'd go read some library books to find out more. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't so interested in educating themselves so they probably do believe that nonsense.
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  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    I went to a school that used that curriculum. It didn't make me believe in Nessie, hate Catholics, or not believe in evolution. I mostly just laughed at it because I knew that stuff was stupid.

    Maybe this is a stupid question, but how did you know better? My Christian-home-schooled co-worker said he honestly didn't have ANY exposure to evolution prior to going out on his own. I'm sure being in a regular school is different than homeschooling, but I still wonder.
    I read a lot, and honestly, it just was too stupid to be believed. I have great parents who were very involved in my education and filled in a lot of the gaps my curriculum, plus they always encouraged me to be an independent learner. If something sounded wonky, I'd go read some library books to find out more. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't so interested in educating themselves so they probably do believe that nonsense.

    Ah. I think parents encouraging independent learning is huge. His parents kept him away from libraries, bookstores, etc. and he was done before the Internet was really widely available, so his only source was his parents, church, and the books they provided. He said his parents told him he couldn't go to regular school because other children were evil. :evil1:
  • theliothelio Posts: 5,374Registered Users
    nynaeve77 wrote: »

    Maybe this is a stupid question, but how did you know better? My Christian-home-schooled co-worker said he honestly didn't have ANY exposure to evolution prior to going out on his own. I'm sure being in a regular school is different than homeschooling, but I still wonder.
    I read a lot, and honestly, it just was too stupid to be believed. I have great parents who were very involved in my education and filled in a lot of the gaps my curriculum, plus they always encouraged me to be an independent learner. If something sounded wonky, I'd go read some library books to find out more. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't so interested in educating themselves so they probably do believe that nonsense.

    Ah. I think parents encouraging independent learning is huge. His parents kept him away from libraries, bookstores, etc. and he was done before the Internet was really widely available, so his only source was his parents, church, and the books they provided. He said his parents told him he couldn't go to regular school because other children were evil. :evil1:

    ITS TRUE!! Kids are eveil. They scare me. Havent you seen Children of the Damned or Children of the Corn??
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