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What's your take on the bus monitor bullying story?

slinky1slinky1 BannedPosts: 1,612Banned Users
I think it is horrible, but expected.

My mother smirked at it, saying that "it was only a couple of kids".

What's your take?
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  • SCGSCG Posts: 5,416Registered Users
    I didn't get a chance to watch the whole video, because it was long and just in general I was getting sick of hearing the kids swearing so much... But from what I did see, it was disgusting and the kids (and their parents) should be ashamed of themselves. But I'm sure they're not.

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  • CGNYCCGNYC Posts: 4,937Registered Users
    I do not understand why there aren't some simple rules in place for this kind of thing and when you break them, you're off the bus or out of school. Period. If you can't get through the day without verbally or physically assaulting someone then enjoy home school, see ya. You're your parents problem now.
  • sleepymekosleepymeko Posts: 1,002Registered Users
    Unacceptable. I'm happy it's getting press. This type of behavior needs to stop.
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,238Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I didn't watch it all since it really started to bother me.
    If those were my kids I would think about beating the living daylights out of them.
    But what I'd probably do would be to take away their phones, computers, etc. No movies, no parties, no fun. They would do some sort of community service - soup kitchen, mow the lawns in the neighborhood, etc.
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  • LAwomanLAwoman Posts: 2,949Registered Users
    It made me very, very sad.

    And angry.
  • WiregirlWiregirl Posts: 1,695Registered Users
    It made me sick. She is a Grandomther of eight, plus ten years ago her son commited suicide. One of the kid's in the video says "you are so ugly your family must want to kill themselves"
    They should get a very harsh punishment....words hurt!
  • spring1onuspring1onu Posts: 16,528Registered Users
    Disgusting.

    Stomach turning.

    Vile.
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  • slinky1slinky1 Banned Posts: 1,612Banned Users
    This angers me because legislators in my state are trying to crack down on teachers who have poor performing students. Now, if you can't say anything to a kid to discipline them when they are being disruptive, not paying attention, and not doing their homework...how is it your fault if the kid is not successful in school? Do you need to come down to their level and integrate rappers or popular culture...or lvideo games...into your lesson so that the kids think it is WORTH it to them to listen to?

    Really, why are these school employees' hands tied?
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  • munchkinmunchkin Posts: 2,909Registered Users
    I didn't watch it all since it really started to bother me.
    If those were my kids I would think about beating the living daylights out of them.
    But what I'd probably do would be to take away their phones, computers, etc. No movies, no parties, no fun. They would do some sort of community service - soup kitchen, mow the lawns in the neighborhood, etc.
    Someone needs to cowboy up and change these situations.

    I agree with you totally.

    One father said he was ashamed (or something like that) when he heard his son's voice on the video. Let's hope he steps up to the plate and punishes the kid accordingly.

    Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly actually came up with some of the best punishments last night. One of them said the boys should not be allowed to ride the bus; I agree. It may inconvenience their parents, but that is a price they should pay. Then Glenn Beck hit the nail on the head when he said our parents would have us at the woman's house mowing her lawn, raking her leaves, and doing whatever she needed done. Someone said they don't believe any of the boys have been made to apologize. First thing I would have done is march my kid to her house and have him apologize (and mean it) in person.

    I also heard where one of the parents said the boys were wrong but this has gotten blown out of proportion. I disagree. I think it is time that every person (kid or adult - parent or child) learns we are living in a technology society where anything and everything you do can be recorded and posted on line. That means very few people get away with things like this anymore, and the public outcry is far reaching. Therefore, if you don't want to feel the heat after you do something stupid like this, then don't do it to being with.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I heard that the public has collected over $300,000 for her to go on "the vacation of a lifetime."

    Well deserved.

    Obviously, the kids' behavior was horrible, should be punished harshly by the parents, the school, etc.

    But Mrs. Klein should not have been in that job. I couldn't tell if she is a lifer or just started or what, but you damn near need a couple of armed corrections officers to do that job and she wasn't up for it.

    Just taking her out of it...what if something jumped off btwn the students? Verbal or physical. Would Mrs. Klein have been able to diffuse it? If she can't protect herself, she can't protect those kids either.

  • midgimidgi Posts: 2,409Registered Users
    That was my take on it, SL. She was the bus monitor and if she couldn't even diffuse an attack against her, how the hell could she end an assault directed at anyone else?

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  • slinky1slinky1 Banned Posts: 1,612Banned Users
    Yes. Those children's parents should have to ride them to school. Nothing would irk a working parent more than to have to spend time in the morning driving their own kid to school. And that irking is what will cause the parent to make their kid's life miserable.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Kids can be such jerks. Some things they say can be chalked up to "kids will be kids." But some of their comments really crossed the line. They should be punished and not allowed to get away with a wrist slap. I'm glad this is getting national news attention. Hopefully, this will dissuade other bullies. Doubt it, but one can hope.
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  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    i saw it on the world news.

    i agree with those that say the kids should be banned from the bus. there should be real consequences to poor behavior.

    i'm happy someone decided to collect money for her, hell i started to donate $20.

    i didn't know about her son's suicide. that makes it even more sad.

    she's there to help protect the kids. kudos to the kid that had the smarts to record and post this. nobody would probably have believed it. i don't think you should have to be a strong burly man to have the job she has. she's a bus monitor not a law enforcement officer or a body guard. i don't know what she could have done to stop those kids. she asked them to stop (or something like that) that should have been enough. should a bus monitor have to carry a gun to be respected? a man could have been bullied the very same way. the whole point of bullying is that people pick on those they feel are defenseless. this woman shouldn't have been denied the ability to have a bus monitor job because of kids being totally disrespectful and out of line.

    the parents, all parents, really need to use this as a life lesson. you can't just talk to people any kind of way and also you never know who is watching or even recording your actions. if your internal compass is so off that you don't do right because you should, keep in mind that your nasty behavior might be recorded and blasted on the world news and across the internet.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    luvmylocs wrote: »
    she's there to help protect the kids. kudos to the kid that had the smarts to record and post this. nobody would probably have believed it. i don't think you should have to be a strong burly man to have the job she has. she's a bus monitor not a law enforcement officer or a body guard. i don't know what she could have done to stop those kids. she asked them to stop (or something like that) that should have been enough. should a bus monitor have to carry a gun to be respected? a man could have been bullied the very same way. the whole point of bullying is that people pick on those they feel are defenseless. this woman shouldn't have been denied the ability to have a bus monitor job because of kids being totally disrespectful and out of line.

    Not every job is for every person. You have to be able to do the job effectively. You can't just ~hope~ that the kids allow you to do the job. You have to have the right disposition and skils, etc to do a job.

    Not really about size or gender. More about disposition.

    If you work w/ teenagers, you have to be very assertive. This woman was not. Maybe she was at one time or maybe she never was. I know some old women meaner than a brood of vipers and you woud not wanna cros them! OL

  • luvmylocsluvmylocs Posts: 7,578Registered Users
    i just saw the money raised is at $500K!!!

    and 3 of the 4 boys involved have apologized
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  • GretchenGretchen Administrator Posts: 8,424Administrators, Moderators Administrator
    luvmylocs wrote: »
    i just saw the money raised is at $500K!!!

    and 3 of the 4 boys involved have apologized


    Great to hear some of the boys have apologized.

    One of the dads was interviewed on World News last night; he was remorseful and apologetic for his son.

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  • sleepymekosleepymeko Posts: 1,002Registered Users
    I feel like we need stricter bullying policies for both children and adults. In a way, I wish that this country had some Asian ideas of respecting elders or people older than you. No child should speak to a grown adult or a senior for that matter in a disrespecting way.

    Children need to remember that they are children and adults need to put a stop to bullying. Heck, when I was in grade school I can remember so many times when kids were bullied and teachers did not do anything. I know teachers have some restrictions, but this needs to stop. Too many lives have been lost over cruel words or harassment.

    I hope these kids would learn a lesson, but they probably would not. They're only apologizing because they have to SMH.

    Thankfully, this ended on a good note. I wish her a great vacay!
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,238Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I'm still trying to wrap my mine around the fact that there is a need for such a job as Bus Monitor. I know I'm old and times are different but I look back and can't imagine anyone more in control (or meaner!) than our school bus drivers. If kids were acting up, the driver would slam on the brakes and give them the what for. It didn't matter if they were the worst of the worst. They would still be shaking in their boots.
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  • midgimidgi Posts: 2,409Registered Users
    Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

    We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

    In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

    I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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  • NejNej Posts: 2,444Registered Users
    midgi wrote: »
    Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

    We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

    In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

    I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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    I saw an interview with her and she said she just took it because there was nothing she could do without losing her job.


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  • slinky1slinky1 Banned Posts: 1,612Banned Users
    I think the bus monitors are for developmentally disabled children that have been integrated into "regular" school.
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  • Jpop825Jpop825 Posts: 169Registered Users
    This thread is the first I'm hearing of this and I just can't bring myself to watch the video. After hearing how bad it was I don't think I can stomach it. Though I do want to donate a lot of money to her vacation. I am disgusted with how some kids are raised these days.


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  • triple_spiraltriple_spiral Posts: 249Registered Users
    It's awful, but I'm not that surprised. Most kids are great, but there are some who just have absolutely no respect for anyone. Especially someone like the bus monitor on the last day of school, who has no real power to bring any consequences. I keep hearing people say things like "she should have told them to stop, made them sit apart, taken away their camera, kicked them off the bus." But the truth is, if a student refuses when you ask them to do something there's not anything else you can do, you're not allowed to touch them at all and they know it. Working with students the last few years the phrase I've heard over and over directed at any number of adults was "MAKE ME." Ugh.

    I think it's great that she has the money to retire now, if she wants.

    I think schools need more effective ways to discipline kids.

    Parents need to get it together with disciplining their kids too.
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  • DevushkaDevushka Posts: 1,080Registered Users
    It's awful, but I'm not that surprised. Most kids are great, but there are some who just have absolutely no respect for anyone. Especially someone like the bus monitor on the last day of school, who has no real power to bring any consequences. I keep hearing people say things like "she should have told them to stop, made them sit apart, taken away their camera, kicked them off the bus." But the truth is, if a student refuses when you ask them to do something there's not anything else you can do, you're not allowed to touch them at all and they know it. Working with students the last few years the phrase I've heard over and over directed at any number of adults was "MAKE ME." Ugh.

    I think it's great that she has the money to retire now, if she wants.

    I think schools need more effective ways to discipline kids.

    Parents need to get it together with disciplining their kids too.

    Yeah, that really is part of the problem. There's not much she could have done that wouldn't have created a bigger problem for her in the long run. I can certainly understand when she says she took it because she needed the job. If she had talked to those kids the way a lot of people think those kids should have been talked to, you just know they would have gone to administrators about it. And actually touching a kid isn't an option.

    In an interview I saw of one of the dads, he said how horrified he was to see his child behaving that way. He didn't weasel out, trying to mitigate his son's behavior with lame excuses either.
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  • moodydovemoodydove Posts: 1,721Registered Users
    midgi wrote: »
    Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

    We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

    In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

    I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    midgi wrote: »
    Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

    We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

    In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

    I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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    I'm confused. Are you saying the adults in those situations responded to disrespectful teenagers appropriately and due to the culture of disrespect in America and extreme political correctness, they were unfairly reprimanded/punished?

    Blame it on the cell phone...
  • midgimidgi Posts: 2,409Registered Users
    The fake wall is called a partition wall apparently.
    subbrock wrote: »
    I'm confused. Are you saying the adults in those situations responded to disrespectful teenagers appropriately and due to the culture of disrespect in America and extreme political correctness, they were unfairly reprimanded/punished?

    Blame it on the cell phone...

    Of course, I don't think the adults responded appropriately, but IMO in those situations, the response was deserved albeit extreme. I'm jalso saying that kids have been bad as hell for eons. Nothing has changed save the invention of the internet. More people get caught doing bad things because we are under surveillance everywhere we go.

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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    Interesting. Thanks for clarification.

    I would love to have an in depth interview with the parents. I have questions.
  • NorahBuggNorahBugg Posts: 134Registered Users
    midgi wrote: »
    Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

    We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

    In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

    I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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    Yeah... It's been only a little over 10 years since I was in high school, but, the difference b/w then and now is amazing. I worked for the school system a few years ago, and the audacity of many of the kids and their parents was incredible.

    I went to a Catholic school which I'll never say was a positive experience, but I learned discipline and respect. No students were ever hit or threatened in any way. It wasn't needed because respecting our elders became natural very early on.
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