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Coffee experts?

spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
So I just stopped at this coffee shop and had THE BEST cup of iced coffee in my life. ( I pretty much only drink coffee cold.)

And the barista said it's better there bc they use a totally different brewing process than say, Starbucks. (I don't only go to Starbucks, tho. I get iced coffee all the time from small coffee shops an it's never like this!)

In this "special process", they leave 5 lbs of coarse-ground coffee soaking in ice cold water for 24 hours...and something else I forget.

Do you know anything about this? If I bought a French press or something, could I make mine this way at home with just cold water and quality beans that I grind coarsely at...someplace?

I will continue to go back to this place but it's not somewhere I can go to every time I want coffee (which is at least once a day).

Any insight on this? I don't want to demand all the guy's trade secrets! LOL:coffee2:

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  • PoPo Posts: 2,607Registered Users
    Cold brew vs. brewing hot, double strength, and then cooling

    Yes, you can do this at home. I think Pioneer Woman has a pretty good "recipe."
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  • NetGNetG Posts: 8,116Registered Users
    If you ever manage to get to a coffee tasting, you can actually taste differences in the coffee at different temperatures. Most of the best flavors in coffee brewed hot dissipate by the time it cools, so it makes sense that cold brewing would work better. Roasting and grind will also make a difference. I recommend checking if this store sells their coffee beans, freezing them when not in use, and only grinding what you're about to brew. All make a difference in flavor as well.

    Congrats on finding coffee you love! My two favorites are no longer, and it's sad. At least the local roaster still seems to be doing well, so I have that.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    This is too easy!

    Awesome. Thnx

    But probably a French press would be too small since this stuff can last weeks in the fridge.

  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    NetG wrote: »
    If you ever manage to get to a coffee tasting, you can actually taste differences in the coffee at different temperatures. Most of the best flavors in coffee brewed hot dissipate by the time it cools, so it makes sense that cold brewing would work better. Roasting and grind will also make a difference. I recommend checking if this store sells their coffee beans, freezing them when not in use, and only grinding what you're about to brew. All make a difference in flavor as well.

    Congrats on finding coffee you love! My two favorites are no longer, and it's sad. At least the local roaster still seems to be doing well, so I have that.

    I've been using Bustelo at home to brew and cool in the fridge.

    And that's even what Po's PioneerWoman uses.

    But that seems counterintuitive bc the Bustelo is ground soooooo fine and why go through all the extra straining w/ cheese cloth, etc if you can just use coarse.

    Maybe I need to buy a grinder too!?

  • rileybrileyb Posts: 1,975Registered Users
    Cold brewing makes the best iced coffee. They make cold brewers if you want to invest in something to make large quantities. The Toddy is supposed to be a good one.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    rileyb wrote: »
    Cold brewing makes the best iced coffee. They make cold brewers if you want to invest in something to make large quantities. The Toddy is supposed to be a good one.

    $40 isn't expensive at all (considering my $150/month Starbucks habit :?).

    Maybe I will just go this route to avoid all the messy straining and pouring and switching containers.

    I'm so excited!:happy2:

  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    So I bought whole coffee beans, a coffee grinder and a french press. Meant to get it started last night but didn't get a chance.

    (I really want the machine rileyb showed but I couldn't find anything like it at target and didn't have time to go to BB&Beyond...am too eager to wait on shipping.)

    Headed back to the coffee shop now to tide me over til I can make my own!

  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    Well, the coffee grinder is a must-have kitchen appliance in my eyes anyway. Not so much for coffee, but spices, whole grain flours, breadcrumbs, and nut flours.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Saria wrote: »
    Well, the coffee grinder is a must-have kitchen appliance in my eyes anyway. Not so much for coffee, but spices, whole grain flours, breadcrumbs, and nut flours.


    I use all those things...but buy them ground.

    I can see spices losing their spiciness if ground and left sitting. But you notice a difference w/ the other stuff?

    I just bought a cheap coffee grinder - three level (fine, med and coarse).

    Should I have bought a better one w/ 18 levels?

    Have you heard of cheap ons breaking? What is he difference...bc I can't see why you would need 18 types of grinding evels? Are some coffee beans harder than others?

  • NetGNetG Posts: 8,116Registered Users
    Saria wrote: »
    Well, the coffee grinder is a must-have kitchen appliance in my eyes anyway. Not so much for coffee, but spices, whole grain flours, breadcrumbs, and nut flours.

    I don't use the same grinder for spices and coffee so I have two. I suspect you mean yours is dedicated to non-coffee purposes. ;-)


    Spidey - A friend gave me an espresso machine as a housewarming gift, and different people like their coffee different ways, so while I don't use 18 settings, I do use a ton of different settings on my coffee grinder.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    NetG wrote: »
    Saria wrote: »
    Well, the coffee grinder is a must-have kitchen appliance in my eyes anyway. Not so much for coffee, but spices, whole grain flours, breadcrumbs, and nut flours.

    I don't use the same grinder for spices and coffee so I have two. I suspect you mean yours is dedicated to non-coffee purposes. ;-)


    Spidey - A friend gave me an espresso machine as a housewarming gift, and different people like their coffee different ways, so while I don't use 18 settings, I do use a ton of different settings on my coffee grinder.


    damn...I was hoping there woud be purpose for the additional 15 settings.

    So besides fine, med and coarse, how are they identifiying the other settings? Like diced, sliced and julienned? LOL

  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    Well, I think buying breadcrumbs (and croutons) is a huge rip-off and a complete scam because you're paying for bread that is stale, and there's absolutely no comparison in flavor and quality between homemade (store-bought breadcrumbs taste like sawdust).

    Nuts and nut flours and whole grain flours have a lot of oils, which are prone to rancidity (so they should really be kept refrigerated or frozen) and even if they don't go rancid, they don't stay fresh that long.
    But the real benefit to grinding whole grain flours is that I'm not going through a bag of oat flour (as an example) at a rapid pace. Just grinding oats lets me have as much as I need. And rolled oats are cheap while oat flour not so much.

    The coffee grinder I have and the ones I've used at jobs don't have any levels. You just put your stuff in and press the lid or a button on the lid down and it grinds. You stop when it's ground to your liking. They're cheap.
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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    NetG wrote: »
    Saria wrote: »
    Well, the coffee grinder is a must-have kitchen appliance in my eyes anyway. Not so much for coffee, but spices, whole grain flours, breadcrumbs, and nut flours.

    I don't use the same grinder for spices and coffee so I have two. I suspect you mean yours is dedicated to non-coffee purposes. ;-)


    Spidey - A friend gave me an espresso machine as a housewarming gift, and different people like their coffee different ways, so while I don't use 18 settings, I do use a ton of different settings on my coffee grinder.

    Heh, at work there are two designated coffee grinders, one for spices and one for coffee.
    I don't really use mine for coffee, true, but I do grind coffee in it when I do need it for something. You can get the lingering scent of spices out of it by grinding some rice or a piece of white bread. Of course, if you drink a lot of coffee, you might indeed want two.
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  • LAwomanLAwoman Posts: 2,949Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Po wrote: »

    I'm so glad you mentioned her. I saw her iced coffee recipe months ago but forgot about it. This is definitely going to be a project for my upcoming 3-day weekend!!
  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Cold brew is awesome. I started doing it last summer and got hooked. I use sweetened condensed milk in mine to even make it more addicting.

    I make up a big batch and it lasts me the week. They say you should grind your coffee med when you want use for cold brewing. I also double strain mine usually i use cheesecloth doubled up for the first run and then i will just use a coffee filter. I drink hot coffee in the colder months but have on my list to get my coffee for cold brew this weekend.


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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Saria wrote: »
    Well, the coffee grinder is a must-have kitchen appliance in my eyes anyway. Not so much for coffee, but spices, whole grain flours, breadcrumbs, and nut flours.

    Too funny. I never use mine for coffee!'


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  • spring1onuspring1onu Posts: 16,528Registered Users
    I did PW's method and even though I love, love my coffee I don't like it super strong and those coffee to water ratios were too much for me. So I've got to play with it in smaller amounts and figure out what works for me, but it's definitely smoother. I used coffee filters and a fine mesh sieve for straining.

    There's also this Greek method I'm going to try. I bought some Trader Joe's instant coffee to give it a go, looked interesting.
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    xcptnl wrote: »
    Cold brew is awesome. I started doing it last summer and got hooked. I use sweetened condensed milk in mine to even make it more addicting.

    I make up a big batch and it lasts me the week. They say you should grind your coffee med when you want use for cold brewing. I also double strain mine usually i use cheesecloth doubled up for the first run and then i will just use a coffee filter. I drink hot coffee in the colder months but have on my list to get my coffee for cold brew this weekend.


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  • curlysue21curlysue21 Posts: 5,219Registered Users
    Just want to say thanks for this thread! I have never heard of cold brewing but with the weather getting warmer I'm looking forward to using this method to make my coffee!
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  • spiderlashes5000spiderlashes5000 Posts: 17,495Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    curlysue21 wrote: »
    Just want to say thanks for this thread! I have never heard of cold brewing but with the weather getting warmer I'm looking forward to using this method to make my coffee!


    Be sure to share your results!

    I'll be experimenting tonight.:coffee2:

  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    spring1onu wrote: »
    I did PW's method and even though I love, love my coffee I don't like it super strong and those coffee to water ratios were too much for me. So I've got to play with it in smaller amounts and figure out what works for me, but it's definitely smoother. I used coffee filters and a fine mesh sieve for straining.

    There's also this Greek method I'm going to try. I bought some Trader Joe's instant coffee to give it a go, looked interesting.

    I also have modified the ratio and now it's perfection!!


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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    Cold brew is awesome. I started doing it last summer and got hooked. I use sweetened condensed milk in mine to even make it more addicting.

    I make up a big batch and it lasts me the week. They say you should grind your coffee med when you want use for cold brewing. I also double strain mine usually i use cheesecloth doubled up for the first run and then i will just use a coffee filter. I drink hot coffee in the colder months but have on my list to get my coffee for cold brew this weekend.


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    What kind do you buy?

    I usually get a French roast. I am not brand loyal. I am not helpful am I? This time I am going to grind it fresh at whole foods because I usually just buy it already ground. So whatever they have. Wishywashy is my middle name. :)


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  • spring1onuspring1onu Posts: 16,528Registered Users
    xcptnl wrote: »
    I also have modified the ratio and now it's perfection!!


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    Care to share your ratio, Mrs. Thang? :lol:

    Looking through some of the recipes I've saved, I see one for a smaller amount that says 1/3 C medium-course ground coffee to 1 1/2 C water for two servings and is made in a french press.
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  • SariaSaria Posts: 15,963Registered Users
    The common ratio used (if you check the SE article) is 1 part coffee to 4.5 parts water in weight. Weight ratios are much easier to work with. ;)
    It's meant to be a strong extract that you dilute to your liking.
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  • spring1onuspring1onu Posts: 16,528Registered Users
    Here is an article (link to the left under "Related") and some guidelines on ratio.
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    The amount of time from slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is exactly one bananosecond.
    I do have a secret yen for pink in unexpected places. ~ninja dog
    I've decided that I'll never get down to my original weight, and I'm OK with that--After all, 8 pounds 2 oz. is just not realistic.
  • LAwomanLAwoman Posts: 2,949Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Aww man I am thischose to buying the Toddy on Amazon.
  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    I almost got the toddy but I read some of the reviews and decided the heck with it. It is not that bad and I kinda like the straining part


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  • xcptnlxcptnl Posts: 15,678Registered Users
    Saria wrote: »
    The common ratio used (if you check the SE article) is 1 part coffee to 4.5 parts water in weight. Weight ratios are much easier to work with. ;)
    It's meant to be a strong extract that you dilute to your liking.

    I figured that out sort of after the fact but by that point I had my ratio where I could just add the sweetened condensed milk and a splash of 1/2 and 1/2.


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    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
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