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Gray issue

thosecurlsthosecurls Posts: 27Registered Users
Hi ALL.

I'll preface this by saying I'm about 80% gray (my last color dye was 4 years ago and completely out). I was once a full bodied 3B but not sure what I am now.

When I did color my hair - it loved protein. Now protein does nothing and I’m having a hard time finding what works. My current curl pattern is a mix of straggly curls and I think it has to do with the gray being more prevalent. My hair is in good condition else wise - not dry or frizzy.

In the last few months, I’ve cut my hair about 4 inches, switched up products, did cleansing washes, DT’s but still not able to get a decent curl formation.

Has anyone had a similar experience?
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Lo-Poo Renpure (RED) Moisturizing Shampoo
Conditioner Renpure (RED) Moisturizing
Styler GVPCB, Biotera Gel
Clarification Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo, VO5 Vanilla Mint Shampoo, BS/ACV Rinse
DT Pure Coconut Oil
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,091Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    i found that for me, gray hair is very different, my hair needs different products. so i had to start my hair product search all over again.

    maybe send in your gray hairs for an analysis with livecurlylivefree.com. it might make it easier then to figure out products.

    and/or go to any gray hair threads and looks at people's signatures for hair like yours and see what products they are using.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • thosecurlsthosecurls Posts: 27Registered Users
    Thanks RBB - I agree that what once was good is not the same now. I've rotated products that didn't work before and still no luck. The more gray I become the less curl I achieve and maybe it's just the way it is now.

    I haven't done the hair analysis but it sounds like a good idea so thanks again for your help.
    ____________________________________
    Lo-Poo Renpure (RED) Moisturizing Shampoo
    Conditioner Renpure (RED) Moisturizing
    Styler GVPCB, Biotera Gel
    Clarification Suave Daily Clarifying Shampoo, VO5 Vanilla Mint Shampoo, BS/ACV Rinse
    DT Pure Coconut Oil
    _________________________________

    *MAY is Celiac Awareness Month*
    Get into the action and educate yourself
    to help support those with
    Celiac Disease or gluten sensitivities
    as it's sadly
    a modern day aliment for some many

  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    My hair is also different since starting to go grey. I'm 3B with more 3A mixed in now. The grey hairs are more coarse and stiff. But I"m still using the same products I've used since going CG 6-7 years ago. I still do some experimenting just for fun tho. And I still have more good hair days than not, so I'm happy so far.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • crystal tipscrystal tips Posts: 240Registered Users
    My hair is def changing - more 3a now than 3b (must change my avi pic!). Still using same products tho' - mostly CJ and Darcy's and the essential (for me!) BRHG as they continue to work, thank goodness!
    UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
    Currently in my rotation:
    Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
    Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
    Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
    Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
    Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
    Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F41240927%40N03%2F" class="Popup
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,091Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    your hair looks great! from the volume on the top, i'd say it's still 3b.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • crystal tipscrystal tips Posts: 240Registered Users
    rbb wrote: »
    your hair looks great! from the volume on the top, i'd say it's still 3b.

    Thanks rbb! :compress: Doesn't seem to curl as well as it used to - am a lot coarser too - which I ain't ravin' about! Am also as porous as I ever was. I don't know why that should surprise me so but I suppose I was expecting to be less porous now I'm not colouring. I know one can be naturally porous but my underlayers are def not porous but canopy still v porous. All probably down to heat from hairdryer, environment etc. Just had a cut so curls may spring up in next week or so!
    UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
    Currently in my rotation:
    Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
    Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
    Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
    Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
    Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
    Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F41240927%40N03%2F" class="Popup
  • Goin'GreyGoin'Grey Posts: 301Registered Users
    I just wanted to add that your hair may have liked protein when you dyed it because hair color opens the shaft and damages the hair a bit, so the protein fills in the holes.

    Now that your hair is virgin, and probably very healthy:blob8:... you may not need as much protein.
    3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
    Med-Course
    Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
    Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
    Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
    SOTC: JCNS
    Love your hair: Love yourself!
  • anonymous_22139anonymous_22139 Posts: 659Registered Users
    I don't notice a difference in curl between my gray hair, and the hair that still has color. I HAVE noticed a loss of volume. I have fewer hair strands, and my hair is thinner at the top. Because of the transparency of my white hairs, you can now see my pink scalp, and I tell you, I don't like it very much.:evil:

    Anyway, I just wanted to add that.:toothy8:
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    :hello2:Newbie here! Looking for suggestions on curlyhair products that are also gray friendly... Preferably low cost ones. Currently have: Renpure My Hair is Pretty Parched Shampoo, L'Oreal Everstrong Sulfate-free Hydrate Cond (green tube), VO5 Moisture Milks Passion Fruit Smoothie cond, Lavendar Oil (I made spray).

    I bought and haven't used yet DevaCurl Nopoo and DC Cond. but saving til I get rest of dye cut off!!!

    I don't know if my choices are right, like if there's a better VO5 and someone mentioned Suave, which Suave would be good for curly gray???

    Also should I be using gel??? I don't comb, use my hands to scrunch (I have microfiber towel, don't feel I need it for my short hair) I air dry, no fryer or diffuser...
    :help:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I really haven't changed the products I use since turning gray. The only thing I've added is some red-gold corrector that I add to conditioner to help get rid of any yellowing of my grays. The products I use are in my siggie.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,091Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I really haven't changed the products I use since turning gray. The only thing I've added is some red-gold corrector that I add to conditioner to help get rid of any yellowing of my grays. The products I use are in my siggie.

    +1
    i use the same curly products, and also used the ardell red/gold corrector in conditioner periodically to remove the yellow. (got the suggestion from what jeepcurlygirl wrote in another thread, found the corrector in a conditioner of my choice to be perfect solution!)

    i find, tho, gray hair does need more moisture, so i use heavier conditioners as my leave ins.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    Thanks jeepcurlygurl and rbb!!!
    I bought the suave tropical coconut condish and LA Looks sport gel.

    Not sure about the ardell red/gold corrrector, googled it and for toning down orange or red and does something to take out yellowing I guess. I used Pantenes Silver Expressions Daily Shampoo and the matching conditioner (its violet) before. Stopped using cuz of cones... I may just stick with the Baking soda. Only did it once and it really brightened up my silvers. May only do that once a month as it is very drying.

    However, I read in this site that you should mix the soda with condish, maybe I will try it that way.

    Oh, I do agree with the heavier leave-in condish...well the last to days anyways. My L'Oreal, its thicker and seems to be working better than the Vo5. Apparently it could be the dew pt or many factors...Hoping to keep my sanity while figuring this process out!!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    curlygoinggray, the reason I bought the red-gold corrector is because all the other whitening products dried out my hair like mad. With the corrector, I can add it to my favorite conditioners so it not only is CG but it's also not drying. I get my at Sally Beauty online. Very inexpensive too.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    jeepcurlygurl,

    I am looking for a good deep conditioner...What do you use? Also on your sig line you use Ojon, oils...Can you tell me what they are???

    Thank you,
    curlygoinggray

    Anyone else with or transitioning to gray curly hair, what are your deep treatments?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I use Ojon Restorative Treatment (original formula which I am addicted to the smell of but many folks hate it and I think they now have a light formula with a different scent). I just take a dad and run it thru my hair when it's feeling extra dry or flyaway, especially in the winter time.

    For a deep conditioning treatment I mix some of my regular conditioner (usually Suave coconut) with some oil (coconut, sunflower, jojoba, safflower, hempseed) and sometimes some Ojon or honey. I leave in on my hair, under a plastic cap and a terry turban, for an hour and then condition wash.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    :help:Does anyone know where to buy (internet) the cheapest Jojoba Oil and Coconut Oil? The 100% stuff!!! I bought supposed Coconut Oil and it has petroleum in it. I slept in it last nite, co washed this am and hope it came out, lol! Prob not...

    Anyways, I can purchase separately, just can't spend much with school shopping for kids now.

    Thanks!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I bought my coconut oil (pure) at the grocery store. It's right with the cooking oils. I bought my jojoba oil on ebay.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    :hello2:Did my once a month BS/white vinegar routine yesterday. Petroleum in the coconut oil did NOT cowash out!! I knew it prob wouldn't. Ordered the pure coconut oil and the pure jojoba oil, will that cowash out???

    Want to buy Aloe gel but don't know which to buy, there are so many and spendy for the real deal... Which ones are curly friendly. I would really like the refrigerated type...

    All the conditioning and DT's are really taming down my coarse wiry grays!!!:happy3:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    Couldn't find coconut oil at my grocery store or walmart, so ordered. But I will get the EVOO at walmart!!!

    Does the color ingredients (like Red 40 - its in vo5 moisture milks moisturizing conditioner passion fruit smoothie) have an effect on gray hair?? Am thinking use for only cowash and not leave in... IDK Maybe just clear with no added color like suave naturals coconut condish for leave in. Also curious about Tresemme naturals condish? curly/gray friendly??? I saw a clear/white one with aloe vera & avocado (nourishing moisture) and one with coconut oil & jojoba extract (vibrantly smooth)...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I never use shampoo, only conditioner to wash and I have no problems washing out oils or any other products I use.
    I buy pure aloe gel at the drug store or on ebay. I just buy the cheapest I can find. As long as it's 100% pure aloe I don't see any reason to buy a name brand.
    I use a blue gel and many colors of conditioner, with no changes to my hair.
    I've never used Tresemme so no help for you there.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    I did some hair experiments on strands of my hair taken from various areas of my head. (No I did not pull them out):icon_smile:

    Results on my gray transitioning hair:

    Low Porosity, fine texture, and low density...
    The jury is out on curl type...I am thinking 3a. From what I've read porosity is KEY!!!

    Question,
    I am either supposed to be using lo or no protein, this is so confusing!!!

    How do I tell if a condish has the protein in the ingredients?

    I have coconut oil, jojoba oil on hand.
    I have suave coconut condish, vo5 moist. condish (orange one) also on hand.

    Can someone get me back on the right track. Please tell me your recommendations even if they are not what I have...ty
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,091Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    i don't have all the info you are looking for, but i will tell you what i know.

    if your hair is fine texture, then, yes! you need protein. i would do a protein treatment once a week. i love curl junkie repair me, it is a super protein treatment, and it is sooo moisturizing you don't need to do a deep conditioning afterwards. (with other protein treatments, you do).

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    The new av & sig pics were taken two days ago. Still learning the whole CG/Naturallycurlly process...

    Is it possible to get the hair moisturized enough for good curl formation and yet have the gray/silvers showing.

    Does everyone use a gel or mousse? I have not tried yet. When do I put it in? Lets say I've just cowashed & scrunched then do you put gel on top and scrunch more??

    One more question please...
    I have not and will not let anyone cut my hair since I started going gray. Hair was almost bsl and I've been trimming the dye here and there. I had terrible dry split ends and just kept cutting the crap off as I knew eventually it had to come off. I have layered my hair as I had hair loss and breakage from being really sick and bad home dye jobs. My bangs are now 3 inches and my hair is layered throughout the length...

    I have read the cgmethod for cutting (dry) hair individually. Are there any other method. Am open to any suggestions or thoughts. What works or doesn't work...

    Thanks for listening!!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I use gel every day. My hair doesn't have as much curl or definition without it. After I co wash or wet my hair I had gel and scrunch and squeeze (while hair is still dripping wet).

    I have cut my own hair for 35+ years. I usually cut it similar to the CG method, cutting individual curls as needed. If I am being lazy and just want to dust the ends off, I wet my hair and detangle well, put it in a pony tail on top of my head, run another hair elastic down towards the ends to hold it all together, and trim off the ends.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    jeepcurlygirl,

    Thanks for checking back here and giving me great advice!!! I still don't know what your hair looks like...Are those your feet in your avatar, lol!!!

    I started cutting my hair last night...It may take days to get it right. Doing it CG from the book. It AINT easy!!! Dry cut each curl cluster...It's a work in progress...

    What are your opinions on diffusers and/or hooded hairdryers. Recommendations for use and to prevent damage to grays...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    My hair pics are in the link in my siggy. Password is jeepy. Let me know if it doesn't open for you.

    Yes those are my feet. : )

    I've used this type of diffuser for many decades and really don't like anything else. They are small and lightweight, easy to pop into a suitcase if traveling, inexpensive, and mine have lasted many years before needing replaced.
    I plop my hair in a turban towel for about 20 min, then let it air dry for a half hour or so, then diffuse for a few minutes to finish drying and five me more volume. I don't find it damaging. I haven't had split ends in years.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,091Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    i think it's easier to cut 3b hair yourself then 3a. it seems to me that tighter curls are more forgiving of mistakes.

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: cj aloe fix gel, cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab.
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    Hi jeep, rbb, and all!!!

    Thank you pics are awesome. Can't wait til my grays/silvers are long!!! I must have studied your curls for an hour figuring out your/my timeline...Course your spring factor is greater...I had already figured a couple of years for me. My goal is by 50 and I just turned 47 last month, so...I now have around 4 inches since I got off the coloring train!!! Grow, grow, grow...

    Not sure on the hair cut so far. Got frustrated doing indiv. curls looked good at first then wondered if it was going to look even. Got up next day to find my hair didn't look right only to learn later the humidity and dew points were up (still learning how it affects hair). So cutting more and daughter txts and is coming with husband and granddaughters and NOW WHAT DO I DO?? So I wet hair, comb into pony on top of the crown of my head and cut off a good inch or so... Then I combed it back down put in a pony and nipped off the ends... Humidity was terrible and I apologized to my daughter about my hair as I am still learning curly methods and going gray and didn't know if she was on board with it but she said "It looked healthy!" Oh that made me feel good. Sorry for rambling on... This morning I, yes, dry combed and tried to blend layers cutting off more dye. Used the Deva no poo and one condish, and we will see how it looks...I am going to put away the scissors for now! I haven't cut all the dye off yet.

    Agree, rbb the looser curls aren't as forgiving...

    Also, I have natcurly the weather thing on my homepage set at my city and state. So when it says frizzy curls or something like that what are you all using??? Thanks for listening!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Yay for healthy hair! Once you figure out the products that work for you, you will love your natural free hair.
    I really don't pay attention to the weather, humidity, dew points. I use the same products just about ever day. Some days my hair is flatter, some days it's frizzier, some days it's just right. I don't mind. If I'm having a real bad hair day I just put it up in a pony. Otherwise it's free to do it's thing.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • curlygoinggraycurlygoinggray Posts: 69Registered Users
    That's my ultimate goal, healthy and easy hair!!!:flower:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    DevaCurl NoPoo, One Condition & AnGel
    Occasionally: KCCC, KCKT & KCCC
    Last Dye 1/4/12
    Started Curlygirl Method 6/2012
    Final cut to remove dye 3/30/13
    Avi & Sig Pics 1/18/16
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