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Carseats, strollers and carriers.. oh my!

Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
I'm just looking for some input from experienced parents out there. I've already gotten a carrier (2 actually, an ergo and another sling-type) and I'd really like to use that as much as possible.

The items in question are the carseat and stroller. Of course, I am going to get a carseat, I'm just not sure which one. I'm currently planning on getting a convertible seat - the kind that can face backward and forward and can grow with baby from newborn to toddler. I don't really want the infant kind that people take out and carry around. Like I said, I'd prefer to hold/wear baby than leave it in the carseat. I've heard lots of, "You never want to wake a sleeping baby...," but I'm just not sure, especially considering the recommendations that say not to leave babies in their carseats for longer than necessary. So, am I making sense here? Or stubborn and silly (and naive...)?

Next, I don't plan to get a stroller until at least 6 months or so. Because I don't really want the whole "travel system" thing, I'm planning on getting a lightweight umbrella type and using it only occasionally. I live in an area that isn't really walking friendly. My neighborhood has paths and such, but no where that we'd walk for errands or anything like that. So, the stroller would have to go in the car first, to where ever we're going, and then be unfolded, etc. Does that make sense?

Any recs on either of these (carseat or umbrella stroller)?
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  • SarahMarieSarahMarie Posts: 901Registered Users
    I was thinking the exact same thing for everything you posted. Sorry, I'm not any help, but I'm waiting for replies, too.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Four babies and I used convertable carseats with all of them...never had a baby bucket (infant carseat). I never saw the need for one. I'm a big believer in holding little babies as much as possible and I see way too many babies who seem to spend their whole lives in the bucket. I didn't want mine to sleep in a carseat anyway...I much preferred them to sleep in their bed and develop good sleeping habits at a very early age...Day 1 actually. Convertable carseats are more cost efficent too, because they can last for 4-6 years. If you have a large baby, they can outgrow an infant carseat as early as 4 months. You'll have to buy a convertable carseat anyway, so why not just skip the bucket and go straight to the convertable.

    Even though I held them early and often, I did like having a stroller. There are times when you just can't hold them any longer and it's nice to be able to roll them. I used full-size carriage-type strollers that fully reclined so they could sleep lying flat. They still folded up to go in the car, and weren't nearly as large as those travel system thingies. Peg Perego makes nice ones. Umbrella strollers are good for compact spaces, but they don't often recline fully for young babies. The carriage-strollers are great for big toddlers too...they can nap lying down. So, one stroller can get you through the entire baby years...even through several babies. A fully-reclined stroller is a good place to change a diaper too. Very handy.

    The other thing I really liked was a jogging stroller. I had a jogger with 20-inch wheels that was fantastic for outdoor activities...all-day faires, beach, rough terraine, etc. Believe me, one trip to a renaissance festival with muddy fields will convince you that you need a jogger even if you don't jog. If you get one, get the largest wheels you can find. A 20-incher will get you through the softest Jersey Shore sand...and will hold all your beach crap too. Every time I go to the beach now, I miss my jogger. I still have it, but my kids would die of embarrassment if I dragged it out now.
  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    I did a convertible with my first baby and an infant with my second. I would definitely suggest the convertible. I only said yes to the infant (husband wanted it) because he was a winter baby. The only time the seat is out of the car is to and from house to car. My neighbor had a baby that would wake up at the slightest touch, but I never have had trouble transferring my kids from the carseat to my carriers.

    I'm of no help with the strollers since I didn't use one with my daughter until she was almost a year and haven't put my son in it yet. I just got a cheap (short since I'm short) umbrella stroller from Target, but I don't remember the brand since that was four years ago.
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  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    I've found a reasonably priced (for me) umbrella type that reclines 120*. Does that sound flat enough? It's not a full 180, but looks like it'd be pretty comfortable.

    I'm glad to hear the responses on the convertible car seats. I haven't heard any positive opinions on them from others who I've told about my plan!

    Thanks :)


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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    120 degrees is just slightly reclined...no where near flat. I liked my babies to lie flat when they slept. They could have awake tummy-time in a flat stroller too.
  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    120 degrees is just slightly reclined...no where near flat. I liked my babies to lie flat when they slept. They could have awake tummy-time in a flat stroller too.

    Can you tell me why it's important that they lie completely flat? (Not being snarky... genuine question.)
  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Four babies and I used convertable carseats with all of them...never had a baby bucket (infant carseat). I never saw the need for one. I'm a big believer in holding little babies as much as possible and I see way too many babies who seem to spend their whole lives in the bucket. I didn't want mine to sleep in a carseat anyway...I much preferred them to sleep in their bed and develop good sleeping habits at a very early age...Day 1 actually. Convertable carseats are more cost efficent too, because they can last for 4-6 years. If you have a large baby, they can outgrow an infant carseat as early as 4 months. You'll have to buy a convertable carseat anyway, so why not just skip the bucket and go straight to the convertable.

    Even though I held them early and often, I did like having a stroller. There are times when you just can't hold them any longer and it's nice to be able to roll them. I used full-size carriage-type strollers that fully reclined so they could sleep lying flat. They still folded up to go in the car, and weren't nearly as large as those travel system thingies. Peg Perego makes nice ones. Umbrella strollers are good for compact spaces, but they don't often recline fully for young babies. The carriage-strollers are great for big toddlers too...they can nap lying down. So, one stroller can get you through the entire baby years...even through several babies. A fully-reclined stroller is a good place to change a diaper too. Very handy.

    The other thing I really liked was a jogging stroller. I had a jogger with 20-inch wheels that was fantastic for outdoor activities...all-day faires, beach, rough terraine, etc. Believe me, one trip to a renaissance festival with muddy fields will convince you that you need a jogger even if you don't jog. If you get one, get the largest wheels you can find. A 20-incher will get you through the softest Jersey Shore sand...and will hold all your beach crap too. Every time I go to the beach now, I miss my jogger. I still have it, but my kids would die of embarrassment if I dragged it out now.

    Agree with all of this.

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  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    120 degrees is just slightly reclined...no where near flat. I liked my babies to lie flat when they slept. They could have awake tummy-time in a flat stroller too.

    Can you tell me why it's important that they lie completely flat? (Not being snarky... genuine question.)

    Babies are floppy. If they're in a reclined position they roll and flop to the side, or even sometimes forward.

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  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    iroc wrote: »
    120 degrees is just slightly reclined...no where near flat. I liked my babies to lie flat when they slept. They could have awake tummy-time in a flat stroller too.

    Can you tell me why it's important that they lie completely flat? (Not being snarky... genuine question.)

    Babies are floppy. If they're in a reclined position they roll and flop to the side, or even sometimes forward.

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    I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though, so thank you! Is that your reason too, RCW?


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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I just think they sleep better and longer while flat. Sleeping flat promotes better sleep habits, for a lifetime. My sole purpose in life after each of my babies was born, was faciliting their good sleep habits, with the goal of getting them to sleep through the night ASAP! All of mine reliably slept through by 3 months old...one of them by 10 days old. And my babies all initially had their days/nights mixed up, just like most babies, and 2 of them had colic. I swear by flat sleeping. And a few other tricks. ;)

    YMMV.

    And, yes, it keeps them from flopping to the side or forward.
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    And, depending on their inter-uterine position, some babies are REALLY curled when they come out. My daughter was like that. She was a tight little ball for the first few weeks. To get her into a reclined position in the carseat, I had to prop her with all sorts of blankets, because she just kept springing back into her curled ball. She needed a LOT of flat-tummy-time.
  • SarahMarieSarahMarie Posts: 901Registered Users
    I'm glad to hear the positive reviews for convertible carseats, too. My parents just bought me one.
  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    I just think they sleep better and longer while flat. Sleeping flat promotes better sleep habits, for a lifetime. My sole purpose in life after each of my babies was born, was faciliting their good sleep habits, with the goal of getting them to sleep through the night ASAP! All of mine reliably slept through by 3 months old...one of them by 10 days old. And my babies all initially had their days/nights mixed up, just like most babies, and 2 of them had colic. I swear by flat sleeping. And a few other tricks. ;)

    YMMV.

    And, yes, it keeps them from flopping to the side or forward.

    Care to share your other tricks? :)


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  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    My kids hated tummy time.

    When I was a,new mommy with my first, I did everything I was told, or read, that I was 'supposed' to do. Forced tummy time, cry it out at bedtimes, back to sleep, scheduled sleep times, etc, as if they wouldnt survive without it. It never sat right with me and I still feel guilty for tormenting my baby like that.

    With my second, I followed her lead. I wasnt going to train my baby like a puppy. I carried her in a baby wrap, I let her sleep how she wanted (on her stomach), she slept when she wanted, nursed as soon as she woke up before she even realized she was hungry and cried, and I carried her as much as physically possible. And then I laid down with her til she fell asleep when she napped as a toddler.

    I wasn't afraid of spoiling her as a baby, and she's no different than any other almost 5 year old.

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  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    iroc wrote: »
    My kids hated tummy time.

    When I was a,new mommy with my first, I did everything I was told, or read, that I was 'supposed' to do. Forced tummy time, cry it out at bedtimes, back to sleep, scheduled sleep times, etc, as if they wouldnt survive without it. It never sat right with me and I still feel guilty for tormenting my baby like that.

    With my second, I followed her lead. I wasnt going to train my baby like a puppy. I carried her in a baby wrap, I let her sleep how she wanted (on her stomach), she slept when she wanted, nursed as soon as she woke up before she even realized she was hungry and cried, and I carried her as much as physically possible. And then I laid down with her til she fell asleep when she napped as a toddler.

    I wasn't afraid of spoiling her as a baby, and she's no different than any other almost 5 year old.

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    On the flip side of this, don't be afraid to put the baby on a schedule if that works best for you. I thrive on routine and schedules, so I work hard from the first time walking into the house from the hospital at getting my kids on a schedule. If not, I'd go crazy.
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  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    FieryCurls wrote: »
    iroc wrote: »
    My kids hated tummy time.

    When I was a,new mommy with my first, I did everything I was told, or read, that I was 'supposed' to do. Forced tummy time, cry it out at bedtimes, back to sleep, scheduled sleep times, etc, as if they wouldnt survive without it. It never sat right with me and I still feel guilty for tormenting my baby like that.

    With my second, I followed her lead. I wasnt going to train my baby like a puppy. I carried her in a baby wrap, I let her sleep how she wanted (on her stomach), she slept when she wanted, nursed as soon as she woke up before she even realized she was hungry and cried, and I carried her as much as physically possible. And then I laid down with her til she fell asleep when she napped as a toddler.

    I wasn't afraid of spoiling her as a baby, and she's no different than any other almost 5 year old.

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    On the flip side of this, don't be afraid to put the baby on a schedule if that works best for you. I thrive on routine and schedules, so I work hard from the first time walking into the house from the hospital at getting my kids on a schedule. If not, I'd go crazy.

    True. Do what is best for yourself. Work off of what 'feels right' to yourself.

    I laughed at this though, because I hate schedules so much I didnt even consider there was another way of feeling! Lol. Sorry.

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I just think they sleep better and longer while flat. Sleeping flat promotes better sleep habits, for a lifetime. My sole purpose in life after each of my babies was born, was faciliting their good sleep habits, with the goal of getting them to sleep through the night ASAP! All of mine reliably slept through by 3 months old...one of them by 10 days old. And my babies all initially had their days/nights mixed up, just like most babies, and 2 of them had colic. I swear by flat sleeping. And a few other tricks. ;)

    YMMV.

    And, yes, it keeps them from flopping to the side or forward.

    Care to share your other tricks? :)



    • Swaddle.
    • Put baby down to sleep while drowsy...IN HIS OWN BED.
    • Get a music box and play whenever laying baby down to sleep...over time baby will learn that his music means sleep and will automatically put his head down...much like Pavlov's dogs. ;)
    • Keep newborns awake in the daytime as much as possible.
    • The ultimate goal should be 2 good naps in the daytime, morning and afternoon. Don't let baby sleep more than 3 hours at a stretch during the day.
    • Keep night feedings UNfun...no lights, no talking, just eat and right back to bed.
    • Work towards moving the 6 hours newborns usually sleep to the same 6 hours that you usually sleep...GENTLY...by waking them a little earlier each nap, or putting him down a little earlier each nap, whichever...just get it moving in the right direction.
    • Work towards spacing feedings out to every 3-4 hours...GENTLY...by having baby wait a few extra minutes at each feeding.
    • Plan to always cluster feed (several feedings very close together) in the evenings, for most of the first half year.
    • When baby is sleeping midnight to 6am (or thereabouts, could be 11pm to 5am), consider that baby "sleeping through the night". Then, work backwords to get the bedtime to be earlier in the evening.
    • Until baby is STN, all sleeping done in the evening is just naps.
    • Don't try to go directly to 6pm-6am...that comes much later.
    If you're a traveler, use a portacrib for at least 1 nap each day in your house. Then, when you travel, take that portacrib with you and baby will be accustomed to it and will sleep anywhere.


    Babies really can be put on a reliable sleeping/feeding schedule without crying. I didn't let my babies cry. They were always held and cared for, not left to cry. Schedules can be GENTLE. But you have to start from the beginning. If you leave the sleep training until later, that's when many people have to resort to Cry It Out. I don't prefer that method.

    If you choose to have a family bed...and many people do, and that's fine with me, people should do what feels comfortable and best for their family...just don't b1tch about it later when you're sick of sleeping with a 2/3/4 year old. ;)
  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    Thank you -- all of this is so helpful.

    We aren't doing a family bed, but do have a smaller bed (bassinet) for in our room that we're planning to use in the first few weeks/months (we'll see how it goes). I'd like to make getting up in the middle of the night easier on myself... (I don't want to get up and have to walk to the nursery). I am planning to put the baby to sleep to nap in their own room straight away during the day though. Is that too confusing, do you think, or will they be ok as long as the routine starts early?

    I do have a little white noise maker that plays 4 different tunes, one is "relax," one is "play," one is "heartbeat"... and I forget the last, but it's on a timer and I do plan to use that as a pavlovian type of thing. :)
  • webjockeywebjockey Posts: 2,786Registered Users
    I'm just looking for some input from experienced parents out there. I've already gotten a carrier (2 actually, an ergo and another sling-type) and I'd really like to use that as much as possible.

    The items in question are the carseat and stroller. Of course, I am going to get a carseat, I'm just not sure which one. I'm currently planning on getting a convertible seat - the kind that can face backward and forward and can grow with baby from newborn to toddler. I don't really want the infant kind that people take out and carry around. Like I said, I'd prefer to hold/wear baby than leave it in the carseat. I've heard lots of, "You never want to wake a sleeping baby...," but I'm just not sure, especially considering the recommendations that say not to leave babies in their carseats for longer than necessary. So, am I making sense here? Or stubborn and silly (and naive...)?

    Next, I don't plan to get a stroller until at least 6 months or so. Because I don't really want the whole "travel system" thing, I'm planning on getting a lightweight umbrella type and using it only occasionally. I live in an area that isn't really walking friendly. My neighborhood has paths and such, but no where that we'd walk for errands or anything like that. So, the stroller would have to go in the car first, to where ever we're going, and then be unfolded, etc. Does that make sense?

    Any recs on either of these (carseat or umbrella stroller)?

    I took many months before I used stroller. I mostly used infant/newborn carseat and my wraps. The stroller I purchased was a really old maclaren volo that doesn't recline or has a hood to it. Not ideal at all. My second stroller was one of those jogging type strollers for 2 kids. That one reclined. On rare occasions I still use it (my kids are 5 and 3.5).

    I purchased the infant carrier (aka baby bucket). My kids slept in them on occasion. One kid I was ok with waking up in the middle of sleep. The other one was a nightmare if I did so. You'll figure it out. Not sure if that's helpful.

    As for carriers this would be my first time trying an ergo on an infant and I'm looking forward to it. I used pouches, ring slings, and moby/didymos wraps on the other two. They were ok, but I got really hot really fast (I live in TX) when walking around outside. Great in the fall/winter though.

    If your partner is much larger than you/smaller than you and also wants to carry, the moby is your best bang for your buck. It can fit a wide range of sizes.

    Only you know what your sleep needs are and what is reasonable to expect. Some people need a full 8 hours or they can't function. Others can go with interrupted sleep/less sleep.

    And then you have to factor in who's taking care of the baby. If you're sharing daytime care with someone else, you have to figure out if he/she is going to do their own thing (re sleeping patterns & rules) or adhere to what you want.
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  • Jess the MessJess the Mess Posts: 5,844Registered Users
    RCW gave excellent advice!!! I function better on a routine personally and could never sleep with a baby in my bed. I did many of the things she listed. I would like to add get baby used to noises. I rarely turned down a tv or refrained from vacuuming. Heck nap time was one of the only times I could vacuum, do dishes, etc.

    Good sleep habits from the start can be beneficial for the long haul. 9 and 11 years later I'm still benefiting from it. Both of my kids are asleep half an hour after their designated bed times and neither have ever had many problems self-soothing or staying asleep.

    I am really lucky to have good sleepers and I don't take it for granted.


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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    We aren't doing a family bed, but do have a smaller bed (bassinet) for in our room that we're planning to use in the first few weeks/months (we'll see how it goes). I'd like to make getting up in the middle of the night easier on myself... (I don't want to get up and have to walk to the nursery). I am planning to put the baby to sleep to nap in their own room straight away during the day though. Is that too confusing, do you think, or will they be ok as long as the routine starts early?



    I did that with my babies...they slept in my room at night (in a porta-crib) and in their own room for naps in the daytime. Worked great. They were in my room at night for most of the first year. Then, when they seemed to be getting too aware of us in the room, that's when they went to their own room at night...around 9-12 months of age. I still kept the porta-crib for naps, for years, just so they would be accustomed to sleeping in it for when we traveled.

    Funny, I still have that porta-crib, and my own kids are all well-past napping age, but my babysit-boy sleeps in it every day. He's 3.5 years old and barely fits in it, but he willingly gets in it every day for a nap because he's so used to it, so I keep letting him. My husband was bugging me recently to get rid of it and have the kid nap in the guest bed. I won't do it. Because I know that when the porta-crib goes, then naps will be over...and I enjoy my 2 hours of peace every afternoon much too much to give them up willingly.
  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    We aren't doing a family bed, but do have a smaller bed (bassinet) for in our room that we're planning to use in the first few weeks/months (we'll see how it goes). I'd like to make getting up in the middle of the night easier on myself... (I don't want to get up and have to walk to the nursery). I am planning to put the baby to sleep to nap in their own room straight away during the day though. Is that too confusing, do you think, or will they be ok as long as the routine starts early?



    I did that with my babies...they slept in my room at night (in a porta-crib) and in their own room for naps in the daytime. Worked great. They were in my room at night for most of the first year. Then, when they seemed to be getting too aware of us in the room, that's when they went to their own room at night...around 9-12 months of age. I still kept the porta-crib for naps, for years, just so they would be accustomed to sleeping in it for when we traveled.

    Funny, I still have that porta-crib, and my own kids are all well-past napping age, but my babysit-boy sleeps in it every day. He's 3.5 years old and barely fits in it, but he willingly gets in it every day for a nap because he's so used to it, so I keep letting him. My husband was bugging me recently to get rid of it and have the kid nap in the guest bed. I won't do it. Because I know that when the porta-crib goes, then naps will be over...and I enjoy my 2 hours of peace every afternoon much too much to give them up willingly.


    That port a crib for naps idea is great. Both my kids would have probably napped longer! They stopped shortly after moving out of their crib.

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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    iroc wrote: »
    Both my kids would have probably napped longer! They stopped shortly after moving out of their crib.



    Yeah, you can't change a toddler's/pre-schooler's nap venue. The slightest little change can break the Magical Nap Spell.
  • irociroc Posts: 7,890Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    As for establishing sleep schedules as babies to carry good sleep habits through life, I dont buy that.

    I put my oldest on a schedule for everything. She is the one who wakes up during the night. The one who had no schedule for sleep at all is the one who sleeps like a rock, sometimes til 9 am. I think they develop their own sleep personality, like everything else, when they get older.

    I love the baby stages. I wish I could have more. Its so relaxed and easy to me. They can fall asleep anywhere, whenever - the only rough thing is the lack of sleep for us, and so what, thats temporary.

    I find toddler through school age to be way more difficult.

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    I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though
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    i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


    doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

    anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

    again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

    ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

    above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

    congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!
  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users
    [QUOTE=Like.Australia;1947397
    I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though

    i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


    doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

    anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

    again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

    ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

    above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

    congrats on your pregnancy and good luck![/QUOTE]

    Thanks for your input. We have a 2012 BMW x3 (small-ish SUV). I have been looking at Britax, so that's good to know about them. I've also been looking at ricaro (not sure how to spell that). I'll check out the website you mentioned too.
  • 2b or not 2b2b or not 2b Posts: 15Registered Users
    [QUOTE=Like.Australia;1947397
    I guess I knew that, I just hadn't considered it a stroller issue - i now see that it is though

    i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


    doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

    anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

    again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

    ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

    above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

    congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!

    Thanks for your input. We have a 2012 BMW x3 (small-ish SUV). I have been looking at Britax, so that's good to know about them. I've also been looking at ricaro (not sure how to spell that). I'll check out the website you mentioned too.[/QUOTE]



    i remember someone on there saying that the Recaro seats fit newborns like Britax...its like they're made more for after the "bucket" since by 6-9 months and an extra couple inches of torso they're fine depending on the baby and its torso height. maybe save the Recaro or Britax for later? btw, i forgot to mention the Triumph65 as another great option. we have its predecessor and LOVE it!

    you might also check out this /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.car-seat.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D156369" class="Popup

    while doing a quick browse for you (see i'm addicted:) i also noticed that your car is likely to have rear side-curtain airbags so check into what that means and how it affects seat installation/placement or if they can/need to be turned off for carseat passengers.
    ...ugh, so much to think about eh?
  • Like.AustraliaLike.Australia Posts: 2,544Registered Users

    i think this would be more of an issue if you were going to use your stroller a lot during newborn stages but i think you mentioned waiting til 6 months or so to use/buy a stroller. by then, the once in a while sleeping at 120 degrees is not going to have the same effect on the baby or his/her sleep patterns that were mentioned so i really think you'll be fine with any sort of reclining stroller.


    doesnt look like you've had much input on the actual car seat recommendations and well, i'm a bit of junkie! what car do you drive? that could totally affect the fit and ease of use for the car seat. the folks over at car-seat.org (another forum like this) are great at helping you find and fit the right seat for your budget, your child, and your vehicle but i'd be glad to help too! it can be a hassle but the safety of your child really does depend on it. so many people are skeptics about the value of the info available about car seat safety but its mostly cause it seems inconvenient to the parents but really, how can we compare convenience to our child's safety?

    anyway, without knowing your vehicle or your budget, i'd say the most widely recommended convertible seats that fit newborns well are probably the Diono Radian, the First Years True Fit, Graco MyRide, and the Cosco Scenera. Most of the Britax seats have too high of bottom shoulder strap slots for newborns because the straps need to come from below the baby's shoulder while rearfacing so I'd stay away from those. the ones i mentioned range from $40 - $250 and all have great reviews and pass all the safety tests without problems. the Scenera only lasts til 40lbs whereas the others all will get you to 60-65 lbs so way more likely that your child could be ready for a booster by the time they outgrow the convertible which would save you from having to buy another harnessing forward facing seat later. the ones listed also all rear-face(as do most nowadays) to 35-40lbs and this is highly recommended from the APA to rear face as long as a child can in any seat as its soooo much safer. has to do with a child's spinal cord development not being adequate until late toddler years to truly handle impact while forward facing. again, way more info on car-seat.org. i found that site while searching for a good car seat for a long torsoed child and they were super helpful.

    again, let me know if i can help or advise in any way.

    ps: i'm a big fan of getting a baby on a schedule early on(i figured if it was good enough for the ICU it must make sense). i'm not usually that scheduled of a person but it made for a very easy transition into parenting and definitely helped instill sleeping habits(also great for establishing and maintaining mother's milk supply). i have a 5 month old who eats when he wakes up then stays up for a total of an hour before sleeping again for 2 hours...then all over again. hoping to transition to a 3.5 to 4 hour schedule soon though.

    above all, figure out what makes sense to you and give it all you've got. it might take a bit for the schedule to work for each baby and it might not be right for you but being flexible is part of parenting.

    congrats on your pregnancy and good luck!

    Thanks for your input. We have a 2012 BMW x3 (small-ish SUV). I have been looking at Britax, so that's good to know about them. I've also been looking at ricaro (not sure how to spell that). I'll check out the website you mentioned too.



    i remember someone on there saying that the Recaro seats fit newborns like Britax...its like they're made more for after the "bucket" since by 6-9 months and an extra couple inches of torso they're fine depending on the baby and its torso height. maybe save the Recaro or Britax for later? btw, i forgot to mention the Triumph65 as another great option. we have its predecessor and LOVE it!

    you might also check out this /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.car-seat.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D156369" class="Popup

    while doing a quick browse for you (see i'm addicted:) i also noticed that your car is likely to have rear side-curtain airbags so check into what that means and how it affects seat installation/placement or if they can/need to be turned off for carseat passengers.
    ...ugh, so much to think about eh?

    Thanks so much!

    I'm pretty sure we do have the rear airbags. I'll ask DH to look into it this weekend.
  • goldygoldy Posts: 5,455Registered Users
    We started with a peg perego infant seat & stroller, the we transitioned into a Britax. We took the car seat out only a few times, but I'm happy we went with the infant seat cause it fit him so well. I tried using the car seat with the stroller only a couple times, but I baby wore a lot. I wouldn't have done it another way just cause I liked the size of infant seat for my babe.

    We now have a Britax blink stroller, which I got since I didn't love the peg perego, and I am really happy with it. I would highly recommend the Britax blink. I have a lightweight peg perego but we prefer the Britax.

    I second the recommendation to check out car seat.org. My son is 2 years 8 months (tomorrow) and still happily sits rear facing in his Britax marathons (one is a classic & one is a marathon 70).
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  • B-Nessa11B-Nessa11 Posts: 1,050Registered Users
    I love this thread. I was lucky. My daughter basically put herself on schedule.
    I never let her cry it out when she was small. I just soothed n feed and all that. She slept n the bed with me when I was breastfeeding unless my husband was home, then she slept n a bassinet. She started getting to.the point where she would wake up n stand n the bassinet which was scary so I got her the crib. She basically set her own sleeping patterns once she got the crib. The first few days I had to put her to bed n let her cry for 5mins then sooth n put her back n the bed. Then she figured out that crib=bedtime. After that she went to sleep at 9-10 then she switched to 7. I love it! Lol. Sleep at 7, wakes up 1 to eat sometimes, then wakes up at 7-8. Anywho, continue lol

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