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Article - body size in the seventies....

three rivers curlythree rivers curly Posts: 994Registered Users
Better everyone think your a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right.

Perception is not reality.

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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    That's really interesting and that's what I am concerned about, too. I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks.
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  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Posts: 2,551Registered Users
    I've been saying this for years. I remember the 70's very well and people were not as fat then as they are now. Overweight/Obese children were rare. That's what bothers me the most, that there are so many pudgy children.

    I have never believed that most humans metabolism slowed down in one generation.
  • three rivers curlythree rivers curly Posts: 994Registered Users
    We don't really do processed food - occasionally of course, but we don't even drink soda. Tim has battled his weight his entire life, and there is diabetes on both sides, so we try and keep things as healthy as possible.

    I also think that all of the growth hormones and chemicals that they put into foods now are taking their toll.
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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    This is exactly why I don't think skinny models are the huge problem some people want to make them out to be.

    People are out of shape due to poor diets and poor exercise habits, period. It's serious when they are saying children will die before their parents because of this. I had no idea it was THAT bad! :shock:
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  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    "I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

    We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.

    EDIT: I edited this, but then noticed that the original version had already been quoted. So I edited it back.
  • mafaldamafalda Posts: 510Registered Users
    I also think that all of the growth hormones and chemicals that they put into foods now are taking their toll.

    I agree that's part of the problem too. Things were a lot "fresher" back then and not overly processed with chemicals and hormones and antibiotics, etc.
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  • internetchickinternetchick Posts: 6,191Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote:
    "I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

    We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.

    We only have soda for birthdays.
  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote:
    "I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

    We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.

    Yep. Thankfully, I don't like soda because we weren't allowed to have it when we were kids except for the occasional Solo or Ting for a party (which taste very different from coke and pepsi beverages) so I rarely even drink diet soda. I tried diet 7-up and ginger ale for my pregnancy sickness and hated it. And diet soda has other health risks, doesn't it?

    Even juice has a lot of calories and sugars - :shock: when I first realized that - so I only drink enough of it to get the vitamins etc. It's all about water for me - you can do so much with water (and I'm including tea and some of the sweeteners like CristalLite though those have chemicals so good not to overdo them either) and soy or rice milk. I hope to have a soda free house with the kids too.

    I think Starbucks type coffees are a huge part of the drinking calories problem.
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  • Who Me?Who Me? Posts: 3,181Registered Users
    Amneris wrote:
    This is exactly why I don't think skinny models are the huge problem some people want to make them out to be.

    People are out of shape due to poor diets and poor exercise habits, period. It's serious when they are saying children will die before their parents because of this. I had no idea it was THAT bad! :shock:

    I think both are big problems. Saying that skinny models aren't a huge problem because most Americans are fat is like say narcolepsy isn't a problem because most Americans don't get enough sleep!

    "I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."
    Eilonwy wrote:
    We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.

    There's a huge push in public health right now about "sugar-sweetened beverages". It's not just soda, it's also things like fruit punch, and all types of fruit drinks kids drink, and gatorade and things like that, too. Even 100% fruit juice should be kept to a minimum, and the benefits would be better if you actually ate the fruit! So many parents don't realize how bad for you all those juice drinks are.
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  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Posts: 2,551Registered Users
    I read somewhere that people who drink diet sodas are heavier than people who drink regular sodas. Something about it stimulates your appetite for sugar but doesn't satisfy it. I have to say that I see that in my life. My husband and I won't touch diet, but we do occaisionally drink regular sodas. We are slimmer than most people we know who drink the diet. But we do work out every week also. Fruit juices are LOADED with calories.
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Amneris wrote:
    I think Starbucks type coffees are a huge part of the drinking calories problem.

    I agree 100%. And of course, there's the problem of unhealthy foods being cheaper than healthier foods. If you only have $2, are you going to spend it on peaches or a big fast food hamburger?

    And since people seem to be concerned about this, drinking juice on a regular basis was an early childhood thing, along with drinking whole milk to satisfy developmental needs.
  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    I think it's a combination of many things, with sodas and even most juices (especially ones that aren't really juice!) being a definite part of it.

    Some other biggies, IMHO:

    1) Processed food
    2) Growth hormones added to meats and other foods
    3) Fast food
    4) People being busier, working longer houses, both parents working and everyone is sometimes too exhausted to take the time to cook a healthy meal (very related to the fast food and processed food, of course)
    5) Lack of exercise
    6) More TV time/computer time - also related to #5

    I think all of those play a part. I don't think human beings' metabolism changed since the 70's but the food that the average American eats DID, and our bodies are not meant to handle the crap we feed them. I reall and truly do believe that some people are less able to handle these foods than others, as we all know the overweight person who doesn't eat too badly, and we all know the skinny person who does. And the problem, I think, is made even worse by the fact that many people simply cannot afford to eat organic, free-range, etc. Even if they know they should, some people truly can barely afford "normal" and cheap food.
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  • MunchyMunchy Posts: 5,206Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Eilonwy wrote:
    "I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

    We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.

    We only have soda for birthdays.

    When I was growing up it was soda on Fri and Sat night only. Maybe that's why I never really liked it that much and didn't drink it until college (in small quantities still).
  • DiscgirlDiscgirl Posts: 746Registered Users
    American adults and children are fat and by that I don't mean a little overweight, I mean fat, b/c we eat too much and exercise too little. By exercise, I mean things as simple as getting off the couch and walking anywhere or around the block. I also think that the culture of fear many parents live in has resulted in extremely fat, sedentary children. I'm 41. I remember being able to roam all over the neighborhood(s) with a group of my friends and just being allowed, heck, encouraged to go outside and just ride bikes.

    If I see one more morbidly obese toddler or young ( 6, 7 yo) child, I'll slap the person who bought the kid the 32 oz Big Gulp. I once heard a GM engineer talking about car design. He said one of the number one complaints they hear is that the cup holders are too small. I guess they are two small if you want to drive around with a cup containing a gallon of Coca Cola.
  • BefrizzledBefrizzled Posts: 3,854Registered Users
    I think the biggest problem is that people just aren't aware or educated completely on the matter. It's not bad to have a starbucks type drink (I love my caramel lite fraps), but I also make sure that I know what's in it and what the calories are, and I make up for it in other areas.

    I drink diet soda, not nearly as often anymore, and I'm smaller than people I know who drink regular. A lot of people I know drink diet to avoid the calories, but they still don't pay attention to anything else they eat, so while they're avoiding 150 calories in the soda, they don't follow suit with other food.

    I eat much better now that I'm aware of WHAT I'm eating, even though there may be times where I have ice cream everyday--but you've just go to make sure you compensate for that. Not all food is created equal, and especially now, it's seems to be made for quantity, not quality. How much can you produce versus how well you can produce it. It's all about making the money when it comes to many companies, but that's still no excuse for not paying attention to what you put in your body.
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  • Oregano  (formerly babywavy)Oregano (formerly babywavy) Posts: 5,297Registered Users
    The things that bother me the most are the sugared cereals, processed foods, and of course the growth hormones. Not only are kids fatter, but they're going through puberty earlier too, which is scary.

    The "easy" things they come out with just seem so gross to me. Things like Uncrustables, and Lunchables that came out with make your own pizza, or tacos, or PB and J - b/c it's so hard to make a sandwhich? Then they came out with breakfast ones, so you don't even have to get up to give your kids breakfast in the morning.
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  • g-stringrannyg-stringranny Posts: 2,701Registered Users
    I was around in the seventies and I walked everywhere. I lived in a small town so it was easy to do. There were very few fast food places and we ate there occasionally, not every night, like people do today. My Mother actually used Lard to fry food and we were a thin family. The meats didn't have all the hormones like they do today. Soda was drank seldom. We had ice tea. Have you noticed all the people with stomach problems? Either they are constipated or have IBS.

    It makes me feel sad when I see children who already have a weight problem. :cry:
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  • x_tigerlilyx_tigerlily Posts: 432Registered Users
    First of all g-stringranny, you can have IBS and be constipated. Some people with IBS have diarrhea and some have constipation, while others go back and forth. But anyway, I just had to mention that.

    I think the lack of home cooked meals is one of the biggest problems. And pop and juice drinking! My brothers only drink juice or Coke/Pepsi...never any water! Gross!
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  • g-stringrannyg-stringranny Posts: 2,701Registered Users
    First of all g-stringranny, you can have IBS and be constipated. Some people with IBS have diarrhea and some have constipation, while others go back and forth. But anyway, I just had to mention that.

    I think the lack of home cooked meals is one of the biggest problems. And pop and juice drinking! My brothers only drink juice or Coke/Pepsi...never any water! Gross!
    Yea, I am familar with IBS. I actually thought I had it. It ended up being an allergic reaction to alcohol. That glass or 2 of wine in the evening was creating havoc in my system. Diarrhea for the next 3 days. Forgot about the constipation since I didn't have that problem. I agree with you on the home cooked meals. I also blame what is being put into our foods. Unless we are raising our own cattle, chickens, and fish and growing our veggies, we are going to have problems. This country doesn't care about our health. People just want to make money.
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  • Pacific PoppyPacific Poppy Posts: 253Registered Users
    Dh and I were just talking about this- All 4 of us are thin, but eat a lot, and a lot of "fattening" foods like cookies, pot pie, etc. And there are large people on both sides of my family. The thing is, and I think this is the thing,.... I cook almost everything we eat from scratch, and with good ingredients too. And we don't drink much juice or any soda. We eat so much, I'm always buying butter, but it doesn't make us fat, and I'm convinced its the lack of chemicals. In college I used to eat much less, but it was all that crap that comes in boxes, and I gained and gained until I started to cook real food. Its sad, but my 4 year old already knows more about cooking than a lot of adults I know... I think people don't realize how odd it is for something to have 25 ingredients listed, unless they know how to make it with 5.
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    Acres of cellulite? I thought we couldn't help that as women...
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,240Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I was a teen in the 70's and I agree with what was said in the article and here. Too much sugar, salt, snacks, chemicals. Too little exercise and fresh air.
    But the one thing I've really noticed over the years is the change in portions. I think many of you would be shocked at what portions looked like in the 70's. When we went to the local drive-in for a Coke and an ice cream cone - it was a 12oz. Coke and a small cone that was actually small. When I go to that same drive-in today, I share their smallest size drink with Mr. Jeep and order the baby cone, which is bigger than the small cone of years back. And I can make 2 or 3 meals out of most restaurant portions today. I think we've lost al knowledge of how much we're actually supposed to eat!
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  • g-stringrannyg-stringranny Posts: 2,701Registered Users
    Definitely portion size. A good example is the pastrami hamburger. That thing is huge! :shock: I went to the drive thru at Carls Jr one night and when I said I didn't want to biggy size it, the girl seemed surprised. I'm in a newly developed area and we already have 6 fast food places here and 3 pizza places. Thank goodness for Say Sushi. It's more exp;ensive, but I treat myself once a week.

    I wonder if stress has anything to do with it. Some people eat when they are stressed and also drink alcohol.
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  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's in almost everything these days and it's the debbil.
  • KindredGhost1983KindredGhost1983 Posts: 1,187Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's in almost everything these days and it's the debbil.

    Yes! That and MSG, Sodium Benzoate, etc.
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  • journotravelerjournotraveler Posts: 2,816Registered Users
    my husband, who's a vegetarian and an avid follower of "sugar blues," that '70s bible of nutrition, has really educated me about how often sugar crops up in surprising places--soups, rice/soy milk, salad dressings, pasta sauce.... this can be in the form of high fructose corn syrup like medussa said or "organic cane juice," etc., etc. even food sold at whole foods comes laden with sugar. i've become an avid label reader. one brand of soy milk or tomato soup might be loaded with sugar and a competing brand of the same thing won't have any. and they'll taste the same. it's been a real eye-opener.
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  • Way WavyWay Wavy Posts: 117Registered Users
    medussa wrote:
    High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's in almost everything these days and it's the debbil.

    Once again, medussa speaks the truth. (I always enjoy your posts, BTW, because they're sensitive as well as smart).

    My DH and I stopped eating fast food and cut HFCS out of our diets, and we feel and look much better. He was AMAZED how much HFCS is lurking in the most unlikely places. He called me at work one day to report that HFCS was the #2 ingredient in saltine crackers! You've got to be extra-diligent to keep away from this stuff, lemmetellya.
  • medussamedussa Posts: 12,993Registered Users
    Way Wavy wrote:
    medussa wrote:
    High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's in almost everything these days and it's the debbil.

    Once again, medussa speaks the truth. (I always enjoy your posts, BTW, because they're sensitive as well as smart).

    Hey, thanks Way Wavy! That was really nice of you to say. :D
  • CherishCherish Posts: 1,847Registered Users

    Great article. Thanks for posting it.
    No folds of dimpled flesh hanging over trunks or bikini bottoms, no acres of cellulite or pitifully fat children waddling down to the sea.

    This is on point. Another thing that I find off is that the nature or type of fat gain now compared to what I see in my parents' generation. With that generation, fat people did not have tummies that hung down like sacks... they had a more toned quality than adults/children today have because they didn't sit around all day everyday only exercising the remote control finger.

    Also, ITA with Sdcurly, Discgirl and Medussa.
  • Aries_jbAries_jb Posts: 1,556Registered Users
    I grew up in the 90s and our main drinks were soda or chocolate milk. I was actually surprised to see that other kids didn't keep soda in their house or have it with their meals. Needless to say, I had to overhaul my whole lifestyle starting from the age of 11. I am the only one in my family without elevated blood pressure or cholestoral. I am also the only one whose meals consists of mainly veggies and small portions of meat. I still drink an occasional soda, but mostly drink tea now.

    I agree with those who said homecooked meals are important. I began experimenting with stir fry recipes when my SO stayed with me for two weeks for spring break. Almost every night we had chicken and various veggies over a generous mound of white rice. At the end of two weeks, my SO lost ten pounds, and that's with him eating every last bite of what I cooked. That made me a convert. I don't feel so bad when I eat "bad" food when I make it myself.
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