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Choosing a cowash and condition

Hello, I posted this else ware and I think it belongs here instead. Im sorry if any of your read this earlier today.

Im generally new to being CG and still have a few questions. Off the bat I bought the DeVaCare set of no poo, one condition, and arcangel. My hair seems to get gummed up after 2 uses then I have to baking soda and ACV rinse.

My question is no matter what products you use will you get to a point where it gets gummy? Just because the product Im using gets gummy is that a reason to stop using it?

Also, when I run out of my DeVaCare no poo and one condition I plan on using products that are more wallet friendly and that I can get at drug stores.

My other question is what should I look for? I know you need ones without *list all the no no ingredients here* and I know everyone's hair is different but is there something I should look for? I saw the post for CG on a budget and the list of conditioners. But what conditioners fall under the "use for co washing" category and what conditioners fall under the "use for conditioning" category? Do I just pick to conditioners from that list? Is it that easy?
3A 3B mix
Colored treated
Combo Low and High porosity
Medium coarse texture

Goosefootprints hair analysis
Co-wash- As I Am Co-wash
RO-GVPCB[/COLOR
LI- As I Am leave in,
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Style- la looks sport gel

Comments

  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    Welcome!

    There can be a weird adjustment phase as your scalp gets used to the more gentle routine, but it shouldn't feel gummy (I've read this complaint from others about the Deva products). I would suggest keeping a low-poo on hand for removing buildup as needed (my current favorite is Shea Moisture Moisture Retention because it's the gentlest I've found so far).

    As far as drugstore products, I've found I do best with a light conditioner for co-washing- my current favorite is VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea- it's a clarifying conditioner, so my roots don't feel heavy. I then use a richer conditioner on the length of my hair for my RO. Tresemme Naturals has a nice cone-free conditioner that works well (moisturizing formula). Some other good choices are GVP Conditioning Balm (available at Sally's- this is a very rich conditioner and might be too heavy for every single day), and Renpure Organics two new conditioners (Brazilian Keratin if you like protein or Argan Oil if you're protein sensitive)
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    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • mhen76mhen76 Posts: 813Registered Users
    I agree with what Corrina777 just said. I got gummy with the Deva products - that's never happened with any other product I've tried. Finding what will work best for you takes some patience and experimenting. My hair is fine with medium to low porosity. Co-washing alone just didn't work well for me. I use Shea Moisture shampoo about twice and really like the Tresemme Naturals conditioner. I've experimented with a ton of products but those are the ones I keep going back to. Good luck to you and keep us updated on your progress!
    3B, fine, normal to low porosity
    Modified CG since June 2010
    HGs: FSG, anything with glycerin, Tresemme Naturals conditioner, Curls Like Us cloths, satin pillowcases.
  • greencup13greencup13 Posts: 596Registered Users
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    Welcome!

    I would suggest keeping a low-poo on hand for removing buildup as needed (my current favorite is Shea Moisture Moisture Retention because it's the gentlest I've found so far).

    Are you useing the shea moisture shampoo moisture retention or are you using the conditioner as a low poo?
    3A 3B mix
    Colored treated
    Combo Low and High porosity
    Medium coarse texture

    Goosefootprints hair analysis
    Co-wash- As I Am Co-wash
    RO-GVPCB[/COLOR
    LI- As I Am leave in,
    [/COLOR][/COLOR]
    Style- la looks sport gel
  • beeduhbeeduh Posts: 684Registered Users
    Lighter conditioners work best for co washing. And richer conditioners normally are best for ROs. But it's all up to you and what you think are light and rich conditioners. I think suave naturals are very light conditioners and tresemme naturals can even work for me to be used as co washers. For ROs, GVPCB is suppose to be a very rich conditioner (I haven't tried mine yet). I also use tresemme naturals and renpure organic conditioners as ROs. To me, it's really about what you want to use and what your hair needs. :]

    I also agree with what everyone has said before me. I didn't start with the deva poo or conditioner, but i did buy a gel and curl creme. I don't use the same products everyday and have not had any problems with build up. I haven't noticed any gummy feeling from the current deva products I have either . They do make my hair light and fluffy though.
    CG as of Feb. 2012
    combination hair.
    2c on top - low elasticity
    3a&b scattered underneath - normal elasticity.
    fine texture. thin density. A lot of it.
    porosity: normal to high.
    loves protein and moisture.
    BSACV as needed.

    products may vary. i'm a PJ.
    loving Curl Junkie, Curly Kinks, and AS I Am.
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    greencup13 wrote: »
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    Welcome!

    I would suggest keeping a low-poo on hand for removing buildup as needed (my current favorite is Shea Moisture Moisture Retention because it's the gentlest I've found so far).

    Are you useing the shea moisture shampoo moisture retention or are you using the conditioner as a low poo?

    I use the shampoo as an occasional low-poo as needed. There are lots of other low-poo options, but this doesn't make my hair feel stripped like some of the others can do.
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    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • greencup13greencup13 Posts: 596Registered Users
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    greencup13 wrote: »
    Corrina777 wrote: »
    Welcome!

    I would suggest keeping a low-poo on hand for removing buildup as needed (my current favorite is Shea Moisture Moisture Retention because it's the gentlest I've found so far).

    Are you useing the shea moisture shampoo moisture retention or are you using the conditioner as a low poo?

    I use the shampoo as an occasional low-poo as needed. There are lots of other low-poo options, but this doesn't make my hair feel stripped like some of the others can do.

    I think Im a little confused and doing some things wrong. First of all I know everyone's hair is different. Are you not supposed to use a low poo or no poo every day? I thought a no poo was a conditioner so it would be considered a cowash. Im wondering if Im no pooing too much.
    3A 3B mix
    Colored treated
    Combo Low and High porosity
    Medium coarse texture

    Goosefootprints hair analysis
    Co-wash- As I Am Co-wash
    RO-GVPCB[/COLOR
    LI- As I Am leave in,
    [/COLOR][/COLOR]
    Style- la looks sport gel
  • Corrina777Corrina777 Posts: 3,193Registered Users
    Frequency of low-poo or co-wash is going be a very individual thing. I co-wash almost daily because I do martial arts 4-5 days/wk and it leaves my scalp horribly sweaty and dirty. Every so often I like to use a low-poo (like the SM Moisture Retention Shampoo) if my scalp and roots start to feel heavy. Some people cannot co-wash at all and use low-poo much more regularly. It will probably take some trial and error to find what works best for your hair.
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    3a/f/iii
    Modified CG since 11/5/11
    CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
    RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
    LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
    STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
  • berri_cherriberri_cherri Posts: 91Registered Users
    I have a question, what ingredients defines a clarifying shampoo? (Besides the labeling CLarifying).
    Hair type:
    4A/4B(coarse, very thick, dry, and curly)
    Big chop 3/27/12
    Hair styling products: Shea Moisture(yellow line shampoo n restorative conditioner)
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    Density: High
    porosity: :D Definitely LOW

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