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Should I cut my hair like this...? Advice needed!

Hi : )

I have a mixture of 3A and 3B curls and sometimes straighten after washing. It tends to then go wavy, which I like. I want to cut my hair short after having it long for about three years. I also think it would be good for condition in long run when I grow it again. I'm considering an inverted bob - short at back with some length at front. I also like idea of going even shorter - very short at sides and back with length on top. Second option scary... but I'd love to try it.

First, I would really appreciate some advice about relaxing as I've never had my hair relaxed. With the second cut I would need to relax the sides and some of the back before cutting it short (1-2cms) probably with clippers (grade 4 or 5) Just those bits, the top and front would be long enough to straighten, so I wouldn't relax the longer hair (and I promise to always use protection...!) Or would it be better to cut then relax. Can you relax hair that's very short? What I also want to know, is how long would it take before I'd have to have the shorter parts relaxed again? And how many times before it would be long enough to just straighten? Alot? I'm guessing hair has to be a good 10cms to use straighteners on.

I would probably then grow it out rather than keep re-buzzing it. Would it be ok to relax the shorter hair say three times over as long as when grown out I cut it off? There would be natural re-growth that I would only straighten, not relax. The top/front would be about 6-8 inches.)

I sometimes wear my hair up on my head with sides pinned down, I know the style suits me and want to take it one step further. Bit nervous about cutting so much hair off (most of it is currently way below my shoulders) but you only live once, right!?

I have attached two pictures of the lovely Rihanna to give a jist of what I mean. Possibly not quite as short on sides, though. I just think her hair looks great here, there's something so glamourous about it. I know the style can be worn in a more casual way too, but I love that retro vibe aswell. In conclusion... has anyone else had this type of cut? Was the grow out a nightmare? Would it be a giant mistake? Also tips on relaxing would be fab. Lots of questions, I know but need to be sure before I do it. Help! Thanks.

P.s. I have posted this on the straightening/relaxing forum too to hopefully max replies... hope that's ok.

Comments

  • MojoDojoMojoDojo Posts: 702Registered Users
    3a 3b you say? Then you probably won't need to relax on the sides (although to keep the look you would need to rebuzz with a guard every once in a while). If you get flyaways, smooth them down with a bit of a pomade (my brother is 3b and his is kept around that short on the sides - it's not enough hair to curl into a 3b pattern).

    I hear growout is a b*tch, though - be warned.

    I considered this haircut, but decided I prefer the versatility of being able to pin it back when I want to, and having it all down when I want to. That cut, while gorgeous, is a little more limited in that way.

    But if you really want it - go for it! I still think it's a very sexy cut!
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  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Hi MojoDojo,

    Thanks for replying : )

    You reckon I could get away without relaxing then? This is music to my ears. I'm mostly 3b with some 3a. Perhaps I'd actually need to relax when it got to about 4 or 5 cms so that it would lie flat? It would start curling at that length. But if I could get the effect when it was only 2 or 3 cms with product that would be great.

    It is a sexy cut isn't it! I love it. I need to gather some confidence up to do it, though. And yeah I know it is a bit limiting. But the appeal of being able to wash it and style all in about half an hour, outweighs that! Currently takes me about two hours minimum.

    I'm so glad short hair is more of a socially accepted option for women these days. There is still a bit of me that thinks people will think this cut is boyish, though. It's not, is it? I see it on more women than men. I'm quite a girly girl and want it to look feminine on me. I have soft features, so hoping would be ok. I wear make up and lots of dresses and skirts!
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    i think its a very daring cut but if ya can pull it off go for it! i dont think its boyish at all i think its quiet a sexy girly cut. if you post pics of your face we can see if it suits you. :)

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    If you're pretty much a "corkicelli," you don't need to relax to do an inverted bob. Here's a thread about curly bobs http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/70484-curly-bobs-unite-whats-like-about.html

    I've worn my hair in a curly bob for the last four years. It's the first time in 30 years of wearing it curly that I feel that I have a style. I keep going shorter. As I tell my stylist, I want my earrings to show--but not my ears.

    If you go really short, you may loose your curl is some of the 3a areas. As mentioned above, really short will be a problem to grow out.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
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  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Thanks, Fmasuhr and kathymack.

    Fmasuhr, it is a bit daring, I know. I'm just itching to try it. I thought about it before but just assumed it wouldn't suit me. I have attached a pic of me about a year and a half ago - it's a 'mock up' of the style that a friend did for me (don't laugh!) I do look a lot older since the pic and have a stronger jaw line. My friend got a bit arty farty with the pic, hence the grainy black and white.... I piled my hair up on top then they wanted to take a photo and then they edited it a bit.

    kathymack, I wouldn't relax for the bob. Just the shorter option cut. I'm trying to decide whether grow out would be too much of a pain to bother... BUT I want to try it (had I mentioned that? lol) And thank you for the link. Bob is going ahead for sure. It's this one I'm stuck on.

    Bearing in mind I look younger in this pic... thoughts on me being able to pull off the style? Thanks : D
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    You have lovely features, you should be able to do anything you want.

    However, if you relax to do that style, not only will you have to grow out the style, but the damage as well. Only you can decide. You can start with the inverted bob and go shorter with it. You can also go "edgier" with it--sharper angle, etc. The bob is also easy to style. Active time is not all that much. A few minutes to put in products, a few minutes with the diffuser and then depending on the porosity--hours to dry completely.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
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  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Thanks, kathymack : ) I appreciate that. I'm ok with my features and I do know short hair draws attention to them, but I'm ok with that.

    I think I will start with the inv bob ('edgy' version as you say) but keep this cut in mind for near future. The idea of spending less time washing and styling is so appealing. I will do 'safe' short first. Just determined not to wimp out!

    Anyone else had this cut and liked it or regretted it? And any success stories (or horror stories...) of relaxing very short hair? I really think I'd need to relax at about 4cms to keep it flat. At about 6 to 7 should be able to straighten and comb down. 1-3cms should be fine with no relax, just product. So would I just have to relax once? I want to know the score. Thanks : )
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    do it! i think it will really suit you! your have lovely soft features and i think you can wear your hair any way. I think you should do it, if you dont like it your stuck with it for a few months till you get a bit more length then just cut it off to a cute pixie cut. :) if you like it then you'll be glad ya did it.

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Thanks, Fmasuhr : )

    I need to gather up a bit more confidence first... so your comments help! I want to go ahead with it so much. Very into the idea of it taking a quarter of the time to wash too. With my long hair now I actually procrastinate washing it sometimes as I can't be bothered! : S I guess I'm also a bit worried people will keep saying to me, "Why have you cut all your hair off?" etc... especially family. Why am I so concerned!? What a loser... lol
  • anjelica121anjelica121 Posts: 9Registered Users
    Well if you are comfortable with it then you can definitely make this hair style.
  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Thanks, anjelica121 : ) Well, let's hope so...! I'm a bit concerned about the relaxing element. I'm wondering if tiny hair straighteners work on 3 to 4cm long hair....

    Anyone actually had this cut? Or an all over very short style that they've relaxed? As it's the short hair I'm wondering about, rather than the longer bit. Part of me wants to go and get it done tomorrow, but the sensible part of me knows I need to work out the 'logistics' first! Thanks.
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    and drying will be a breeze as well! and wont take long to style it....... think bout the pros! :)

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    I know... I think that's half the attraction! Would be such a novelty to be able to wash and have hair dry in around half an hour to forty minutes and hour in total including styling... wow : O
  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Any more advice on relaxing/straightening the shorter hair would be appreciated. Thanks : )
  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Going bob short first to get used to short hair... also gives me more time to 'research' this style. Almost convinced... almost.

    I'd love to hear from someone who has actually had or has this style. Please share your experiences. Thanks.
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    Going bob short first to get used to short hair... also gives me more time to 'research' this style. Almost convinced... almost.

    I'd love to hear from someone who has actually had or has this style. Please share your experiences. Thanks.

    thats a great idea, to see how short hair looks on you first :)

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • CurlyQueen88CurlyQueen88 Posts: 88Registered Users
    Exactly. Although today I just want a grade 3 buzzcut all over! Lots of rain and high winds at the mo and doesn't mix well with my hair when it's only just been washed.... Better do something to calm it down again before I do anything drastic... lol

    I notice you use argan oil. I'm going to get some soon as I've have heard good things : )
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    Exactly. Although today I just want a grade 3 buzzcut all over! Lots of rain and high winds at the mo and doesn't mix well with my hair when it's only just been washed.... Better do something to calm it down again before I do anything drastic... lol

    I notice you use argan oil. I'm going to get some soon as I've have heard good things : )

    i love argan oil :) its a really light oil, so perfect if you have fine hair. its also one of the only oils that penetrate the hair shaft, so if you use it at night and sleep on it, in the morning you wont feel anything greasy, just gawjuss soft locks. it is rather expensive but you really dont need alot of it. :)

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1: