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Need a super strong hold gel

I have tried LALSG, GFPC, KCCC, DCAA, but none of these give me the hold that I need. I know Biosilk rock hard gelle is supposed to have an extremely hard hold, but are there others that have more hold than LALSG?
3a/3b, Low porosity, Medium Density
Low-poo: Shea Moisture Moisture Retention
RO: Matrix Biolage Conditioning Balm
Leave-in: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Aussie Instant Freeze or LALSG

Comments

  • swtndspcyswtndspcy Posts: 692Registered Users
    BRHG is the hardest hold I have found. It really is rock hard. The good news is, even though it's pretty expensive, you can mix a pea sized or so amount with another gel so it lasts a fairly good amount of time.
    Alternatively, layering the cheaper stuff results in a harder hold. For example, applying another coat of gel after the previous gel has started to set up a bit. I do this often. I will apply gel before my plop, then again after I take the plop out, diffuse for a bit, then use more gel.
  • bonitafritabonitafrita Posts: 65Registered Users
    Some say the la looks super spikes gel is a cheaper alternative to brhg! Maybe give that a try!
    3 a/b Medium texture/Normal porosity/Normal elasticity
    Products I'm currently using:
    Lo-Poo: KC Come Clean (1 x week)
    Co-wash/RO: Suave Naturals Everlasting Sunshine
    Stylers: UFD CM + BRHG

    Hair dislikes: lots of protein, glycerin
  • McfrizzyMcfrizzy Posts: 406Registered Users
    I think someone on the boards before had said that Beyond the Zone Spike it Up gel was a cheaper alternative found at Sally's. The ingredients are:
    WATER ,PVP ,GLYCERIN ,ACRYLATES/STEARETH-20 ITACONATE COPOLYME ,PANTHENOL ,HYDROLYZED WHEAT PROTEIN ,HYDROLYZED WHEAT STARCH ,POLYSORBATE 20 ,PROPYLENE GLYCOL ,TRIETHANOLAMINE ,DIAZOLIDINYL UREA ,METHYLPARABEN ,DISODIUM EDTA ,FRAGRANCE ,LIMONENE

    The BRHG ingredients are :
    Water (Aqua) , PVP , Acrylates , Steareth-20 Itaconate Copolymer , Propylene Glycol , Hydrolyzed Silk , Panthenol , Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate , Triethanolamine , Diazolidinyl Urea , Methylparaben , Propylparaben , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Methylisothiazolinone , Fragrance , Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde , Benzyl Benzoate , Linalool , Gamma Methyl Ionone , Citronellol , Lilial , Hydroxy Citronellol , Geraniol , Eugenol , Blue 1 (CI 42090) , Red 33 (CI 17200)

    I tried to highlight all the common ingedients and there seem to be a few. Beyond the zone also seems to have less ingredients (especially the color additives) and more protein. I guess its really up to your hair :p. Good luck
    Lo-poo:organix Shea butter shampoo
    Co-wash: suave coconut
    Rinse out:GFTN/GVP conditioning balm
    Leave in: GF daily care spray leave in
    Serum-like product: still need one
    Gel:LA looks sport gel/ HESMU,GFPC
    Oils: olive, coconut

    I think I'm normal-overly porous, medium-thick hair(although I see fine hair too), love protein
  • Carpool CurlyCarpool Curly Posts: 68Registered Users
    +1 for Beyond the Zone Spike It. Just got some and it seems to be working as well as BRHG. They have a Spike It Cement that may be harder hold. Not sure if the cement is cg or not.
  • Cuban-curl-ECuban-curl-E Posts: 476Registered Users
    LA Looks Power Spikes!!! Sport gel is more medium hold for me. It is glycerin free too. I use the LALPS as an alternative to BHRG but use more than pea sized amount since I have a big ol' bottle of it!
    3a/b, fine texture, low porosity, normal elasticity, mod-CG 7/11/11

    Poo: KC Come Clean, SM Moisture Retention
    CO: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Argan & Olive Oil, Renpure Argan Oil, YTCucumbers, Sevi Pumpkin
    Style: AIF, HESMU, Biolage gelee, KCCC
    LOOB for second day hair


    Like BS/ACV rinses, limit protein/humectants.
  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    I think BRHG is super hard hold as well. I like to mix a tiny bit w/ another gel before applying.
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG