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Oil + shampoo = soft hair!

Usually I shampoo, condition, style, frizz serum, t-shirt turban for 15 min, then air dry. Lately, though, my hair has been super frizzy and barely curling.

So I did something different last night...
I shampooed but added some coconut oil so it wouldn't strip my hair and because I needed more moisture. Come Clean lathers, so the coconut oil was able to spread well. Next, I conditioned with KCKT and detangled. After that, I scrunch n pumped some KCCC in and a little Sprial Sprtiz to help with frizz. I scrunched with a t-shirt then just put my hair over my pillown and went to sleep.

Awesome hair day today! Didn't know if it was the oil + shampoo or something else, but I would definitely recommend adding oil to your shampoo.
Routine
Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

Techniques
  • combing to detangle and separate curls
  • scrunch 'n pump!
  • t-shirt turban
Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
*November- above chin
*January- at chin
*March- around collarbone
:)
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  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    I love oiling my hair and then washing with a stronger shampoo! It seems counter-intuitive (I always wondered why it wouldn't work the same if you just used a very mild low poo and didn't add any oil), but there's something about the combo that makes my hair super soft and happy, but clean, light, and refreshed. :)

    BTW, I don't think I could ever get decent hair just "plopping" it on top of my pillow, like you described! ;) I will forever be envious of those who can go to bed with wet hair and wake up with great curls.
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    unicyclist wrote: »
    Usually I shampoo, condition, style, frizz serum, t-shirt turban for 15 min, then air dry. Lately, though, my hair has been super frizzy and barely curling.

    So I did something different last night...
    I shampooed but added some coconut oil so it wouldn't strip my hair and because I needed more moisture. Come Clean lathers, so the coconut oil was able to spread well. Next, I conditioned with KCKT and detangled. After that, I scrunch n pumped some KCCC in and a little Sprial Sprtiz to help with frizz. I scrunched with a t-shirt then just put my hair over my pillown and went to sleep.

    Awesome hair day today! Didn't know if it was the oil + shampoo or something else, but I would definitely recommend adding oil to your shampoo.


    woow that is interesting! so you just added the oil to your other hand with the poo, or did you add the oil to your hair first then poo'd after? im intereested in trying this :)

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • Mec1976Mec1976 Posts: 210Registered Users
    My hair seems to love oil so I'm really interested in this as well! :)
    Finally have a routine that works :toothy5:

    Low Poo - 2chic Avocado & Olive Oil Ultra-Moist Shampoo
    Co-Wash - V05 Passion Fruit Smoothie Conditioner
    RO - Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, Cure Care, GVPCB
    LI - KCNT
    Stylers - GF Pure Clean Gel, BTZ Noodle Head, LA Looks Sports Gel, Eco Styler Krystal, KCCC (I am a product junkie ;-) )

    Wash at night, add products, plop in a t-shirt overnight, then diffuse in the morning!! It is great finally getting to sleep in :sleepy2:
  • unicyclistunicyclist Posts: 181Registered Users
    Yep! I just mixed it right in with my shampoo and got super soft hair instead of dry, brittle hair. :)
    Routine
    Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
    Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

    Techniques
    • combing to detangle and separate curls
    • scrunch 'n pump!
    • t-shirt turban
    Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
    Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

    2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
    *November- above chin
    *January- at chin
    *March- around collarbone
    :)
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    i am sooo going to try this!! my hair LOVES oil, so im hoping itll work with me as good as it does with you. :)

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • PheebiePheebie Posts: 177Registered Users
    I'm absolutely going to try this method tomorrow. Thanks for sharing!
    Hair Type: 3A/3B; natural color; mid-back length.
    Shampoo: Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus (2 - 3 times/week)
    Fave Rinse-Out Conditioners: HE Hello Hydration; Yes to Blueberries; GVP Conditioning Balm;
    Styling Routine: Squish-scrunch product /conditioner into soaking wet, upside down hair; plop for 10 minutes, air dry. (Diffuser dry front section.)
    Fave Styling Products: KCKT; Tigi Curl Amplifier Creme; Batia & Aleeza gel; Giovanni Sunset Styler; LA Looks Sport Gel.
  • KetchupKetchup Posts: 375Registered Users
    Oil + Conditioner = even softer hair!
  • FmasuhrFmasuhr Posts: 1,354Registered Users
    Ketchup wrote: »
    Oil + Conditioner = even softer hair!

    i did this today, and oooh my good!! best DT ever! i mixed two condioners together, mac nut oil, evening primrose oil and a few drops of rosemary. i wet my hair, put a bit in, n use it to detangle, which was super easy, then put it all in and left it in for 45 mins. i used a low poo to wash it all out then i put a bit of the left overs in as a leave in. :) :blob4:

    my hair: 3b, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
    my hair loves conditioner only styling!
    Oils and my own procuts are my hairs best friend
    my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.
    :hello1:
  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    Oh, I totally get it now!! Sorry, "duuhhh" moment. ;) I realize now that you meant mixing oil straight into your shampoo and washing with that. :) I actually kind of stole this idea yesterday when I was washing my hair and loved it! My scalp starts to get dry and not feel good sometimes (my sensitive scalp gets broken out when I wash with something too harsh too often), so I added some apricot kernel oil to my low poo (Organix Tea Tree Mint) and washed with that. I probably used about/more than 10 drops of the stuff by the time I was done low pooing. And it was GREAT! Thanks for the idea!! I loved it. My scalp was happy, and I don't feel at all greasy or anything like that. Awesome idea!
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • CubanwavyCubanwavy Posts: 293Registered Users
    Coconut oil? Where do you buy it? Thanks
  • KilajoKilajo Posts: 786Registered Users
    Isabella wrote: »
    Coconut oil? Where do you buy it? Thanks

    I've found coconut oil in the organic section at my regular grocer or with the regular cooking oils at walmart...

    ETA I've also found it at GNC.

    Sent from my PC36100 using CurlTalk App
  • unicyclistunicyclist Posts: 181Registered Users
    Oh, I totally get it now!! Sorry, "duuhhh" moment. ;) I realize now that you meant mixing oil straight into your shampoo and washing with that. :) I actually kind of stole this idea yesterday when I was washing my hair and loved it! My scalp starts to get dry and not feel good sometimes (my sensitive scalp gets broken out when I wash with something too harsh too often), so I added some apricot kernel oil to my low poo (Organix Tea Tree Mint) and washed with that. I probably used about/more than 10 drops of the stuff by the time I was done low pooing. And it was GREAT! Thanks for the idea!! I loved it. My scalp was happy, and I don't feel at all greasy or anything like that. Awesome idea!

    Yay! I am so glad it worked for you :)
    Routine
    Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
    Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

    Techniques
    • combing to detangle and separate curls
    • scrunch 'n pump!
    • t-shirt turban
    Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
    Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

    2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
    *November- above chin
    *January- at chin
    *March- around collarbone
    :)
  • JRockJRock Posts: 170Registered Users
    Oh I love oil & shampoo! I've been doing a honey & olive oil mask before I shampoo & my hair has never been softer. It's the best thing I've done yet for my hair. I'm so happy it works for you too!


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  • CubanwavyCubanwavy Posts: 293Registered Users
    Thanks, Kilajo for the where to buy.
  • BekkaPooBekkaPoo Posts: 3,861Registered Users
    I do this too. I usually oil my hair with coconut oil about 20 min before washing and let it sit. Then I wash with shampoo on my scalp only, and then condition the ends, and finally I rinse everything out. The result is super soft hair.
    "The challenge is to be yourself in a world that is trying to make you like everybody else."
    "...rationality is not necessary to sell things.."
    My staples: Mane n Tail (cowash), Garnier Fructis Sleek n Shine (leave in condish), Grapeseed oil or shea butter (sealing), Organic Root Stimulator Elasticitea (leave-in condish & light hold)
  • unicyclistunicyclist Posts: 181Registered Users
    Today, I got some shea butter because I needed something for my skin. I figured what the hell and mixed about 1/2 cup of Shea butter with 1/3 cup of coconut oil and some vanilla extract for fragrance. Gonna try it tonight with my hair too, to mix with the shampoo :)
    Routine
    Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
    Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

    Techniques
    • combing to detangle and separate curls
    • scrunch 'n pump!
    • t-shirt turban
    Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
    Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

    2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
    *November- above chin
    *January- at chin
    *March- around collarbone
    :)
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Wow - what a terrific idea! I'm trying it tomorrow a.m. :blob7:
    2/c Coarse hair med. density.
    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower:
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I love this. I'm going to do it all the time!

    I'm getting my haircut tomorrow, but today, after putting oil in my shampoo (I always mix my shampoo in water so I poured some oil in - the oil in my siggie) I tried it and I loved the results. Much improvement! This is revolutionary.
    2/c Coarse hair med. density.
    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower:
  • luvscurlzluvscurlz Posts: 109Registered Users
    I'll have to try this. I've been rubbing coconut oil into hair on nights before I plan on washing it to help avoid stripping it. Putting it right into the shampoo sounds like it might work better.
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    www.lenasblend.com
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    What's everybody's ratio, oil to shampoo?
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    Bump!!
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    There's actually a couple of long threads about this method at the longhaircommunity. And some more info in ktanis blog here. It's called "hair care of movie stars". Lots of people have had success with it. I would like to see others experiences. TIA :).
  • jerrYjerrY Posts: 61Registered Users
    Curlsnswirls, thanks for posting the link to the thread on LHC. I have been reading through it - v long thread!! - and felt confident enough to try the method. I used 3 parts EVCO, 1 part sulphate free shampoo, 3 parts water.
    It didn't lather which surprised me. It felt v soft and moisturised. Just out of habit, once out of the shower, I scrunched through a pea sized amount of CCCC. My hair is still drying and so far looks good. I will report back with results. I have v dry, frizz prone hair. If this can cure some of the frizz I will consider the experiment a success.
    3a. iii medium porosity.
    JC, FSG, Matrix Biolage hydratherapie,
    Giovanni 5050, KCCC

    All CJ products
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    jerrY wrote: »
    Curlsnswirls, thanks for posting the link to the thread on LHC. I have been reading through it - v long thread!! - and felt confident enough to try the method. I used 3 parts EVCO, 1 part sulphate free shampoo, 3 parts water.
    It didn't lather which surprised me. It felt v soft and moisturised. Just out of habit, once out of the shower, I scrunched through a pea sized amount of CCCC. My hair is still drying and so far looks good. I will report back with results. I have v dry, frizz prone hair. If this can cure some of the frizz I will consider the experiment a success.

    You're welcome! I'm currently having great results with this method. I still use a little bit of conditioner as a rinse out, oil as a leave in and a very small amount of a CG styler. My hair ends up very shiny, soft, defined, and frizz free. I'm also co-washing in between using the oil/shampoo mix with success. Please do update with results. :)
  • jerrYjerrY Posts: 61Registered Users
    Here is my update. I loved my hair today and had 3 compliments. Curls were good and had lots of volume which I like. Frizz was minimal. This is definitely revolutionary!!
    Curlsnswirls, I was glad to see that you are co-washing between washes. I think I will try this also. What is your ratio of CO to shampoo?
    3a. iii medium porosity.
    JC, FSG, Matrix Biolage hydratherapie,
    Giovanni 5050, KCCC

    All CJ products
  • unicyclistunicyclist Posts: 181Registered Users
    I usually go about 1:1 ratio, and it works really well.

    I am so glad my method is working for you all.
    Routine
    Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
    Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

    Techniques
    • combing to detangle and separate curls
    • scrunch 'n pump!
    • t-shirt turban
    Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
    Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

    2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
    *November- above chin
    *January- at chin
    *March- around collarbone
    :)
  • CurlsnswirlsCurlsnswirls Posts: 865Registered Users
    jerrY wrote: »
    Here is my update. I loved my hair today and had 3 compliments. Curls were good and had lots of volume which I like. Frizz was minimal. This is definitely revolutionary!!
    Curlsnswirls, I was glad to see that you are co-washing between washes. I think I will try this also. What is your ratio of CO to shampoo?

    I have tried it with a sulfate shampoo and used it 50/50. Most people have success with that ratio, some more or less depending on the shampoo used. I've also heard of people adding water to their mix. I say do whatever works. I'm waiting on a new shampoo that is sulfate free and should be more gentle, so I won't start out with a 50/50 mix. I usually mix it up in a two oz bottle, so I will probably fill the bottle 1/3 with coconut oil and the rest with the shampoo. I'm also going to try using babassu oil to see which I like better. It was another oil recommended for this method.

    I've read that you will get better results by using a shampoo with very simple ingredients, otherwise you may have problems with build up. Last time I used a shampoo bar with awesome results. I slathered my hair with coconut oil and then washed with the shampoo bar. That may not work for everyone. I've also tried out non CG shampoos with sulfates, Garnier fructis pure clean and Aussie moist shampoo, which can be drying if used too often. I mix it in a 2 oz bottle which lasts a few washes for me.

    I washed with the oil shampoo on Saturday and have co-washed twice since then. I think it's time to use the oil shampoo mix again. :)
    What shampoo did you use?
  • unicyclistunicyclist Posts: 181Registered Users
    I agree about the simple ingredients. I started this to get less stripping when clarifying with build-up shampoos, so I don't know how well it would work with daily shampoos that are already moisturizing.
    You never know, though :)
    Routine
    Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
    Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

    Techniques
    • combing to detangle and separate curls
    • scrunch 'n pump!
    • t-shirt turban
    Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
    Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

    2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
    *November- above chin
    *January- at chin
    *March- around collarbone
    :)
  • jerrYjerrY Posts: 61Registered Users
    Thanks Unicyclist for starting this thread and to both you and curlsnswirls for your suggestions, sharing your methods and advice.

    A further update re my hair - today is day 2. My hair was looking a little greasy at the roots and so I gave into temptation and brushed my hair with my Denman (!!!) Haven't brushed my dry hair for ages. I then sprayed hair with water only and scrunched/ twisted & clipped canopy.

    My hair looked great. This is a first for me. I was able to revive the curls & frizz was minimal. I will be going for day 3. Loving this method!!
    3a. iii medium porosity.
    JC, FSG, Matrix Biolage hydratherapie,
    Giovanni 5050, KCCC

    All CJ products
  • unicyclistunicyclist Posts: 181Registered Users
    Thank you! I am so glad it's working for you!
    Routine
    Weekly Shampoo: Kinky-Curly Come Clean + Coconut Oil
    Co-wash/RO: Cure Care Skin & Hair Conditioner
    LI: Kinky-Curly Knot Today
    Styler: Kinky-Curly Curling Custard

    Techniques
    • combing to detangle and separate curls
    • scrunch 'n pump!
    • t-shirt turban
    Hair :love1: coconut oil and protein
    Hair :angry7: silicones, sulfates, glycerin, synthetic ingredients

    2c/C/ii/low porosity. Growing out!
    *November- above chin
    *January- at chin
    *March- around collarbone
    :)
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