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What is the point of spam?

tgreyztgreyz Posts: 1,627Registered Users
What is the point of sending out spam? Is it just do be annoying or do spammers actually make money? Most of the spam email I get doesn't even make any sense. And the spammers who post on this site, why?
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  • SuZenSuZen Posts: 1,595Registered Users
    I think it's mostly to be annoying, though some of them seem to be selling a product.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    There are studies that show that some spam does work - particularly stock based spam and porn spam.

    And with these automated services that will blast your message on hundreds of message boards, it's really easy these days.

    What irks me the most - besides having to delete umpteen million posts a day - is the ones that say "thanks" or "regards" at the end. :evil:
  • CurlyMireyaCurlyMireya Banned Posts: 956Banned Users
    I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
    "I'm half Hispanic, half white, and look like an Indian." - Bill Richardson
  • KaiaKaia Posts: 8,815Registered Users
    Some of the links are actually viruses. If someone clicks on it, the spammer may be able to get information from their computer. So in that case, I guess it is worth it to them.
    *Poster formerly known as Bailey422*

    Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid. ~ George Carlin
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    If you notice, many of the multiple post spammers are able to post the same message on different parts of this board at the same time within seconds of registering. Not humanly possible.


    There are anti-spam laws in the US as well as international anti-spam laws. Obviously, there's much more work to be done to actually catch and put an end to spammers.
  • lazy loopslazy loops Posts: 8,792Registered Users
    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.

    There's something on the hair board called "Wholesale Distributor" by SagePowder that I have no earthly clue if it's supposed to be SPAM or what. What the person posted is just, well, strange. It makes no sense whatsoever. :? :lol:
  • SuZenSuZen Posts: 1,595Registered Users
    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.

    There's something on the hair board called "Wholesale Distributor" by SagePowder that I have no earthly clue if it's supposed to be SPAM or what. What the person posted is just, well, strange. It makes no sense whatsoever. :? :lol:

    That looks to me like a newbie who just got a bit messed up making a post.
  • lazy loopslazy loops Posts: 8,792Registered Users
    SuZen wrote:
    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.

    There's something on the hair board called "Wholesale Distributor" by SagePowder that I have no earthly clue if it's supposed to be SPAM or what. What the person posted is just, well, strange. It makes no sense whatsoever. :? :lol:

    That looks to me like a newbie who just got a bit messed up making a post.

    Well I'm glad someone figured it out & set me straight! :wink: :lol:
  • CurlyMireyaCurlyMireya Banned Posts: 956Banned Users
    Check out Dying Beaver on the Recipes forum (you don't have to open the link to read it). :o
    "I'm half Hispanic, half white, and look like an Indian." - Bill Richardson
  • battinlashbattinlash Posts: 1,850Registered Users
    Check out Dying Beaver on the Recipes forum (you don't have to open the link to read it). :o

    :lol: Heh, I chuckled at that one.
  • CurlyCanadianCurlyCanadian Posts: 10,780Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I love that they have now started responding to each others in the recipe section :lol:
    I believe in manicures. I believe in overdressing. I believe in primping at leisure and wearing lipstick. I believe in pink. I believe that laughing is the best calorie burner. I believe in kissing, kissing a lot. I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day and I believe in miracles.
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  • zmanzzzzzmanzzzz Banned Posts: 3,826Banned Users
    recipes for spam :lol:
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.

    It's just a computer that's signing up, not an actual person. A spambot. I don't remember if, in order to register, you have to type in a series of distorted numbers and letters. I believe that usually takes care of bots.
  • CurlyMireyaCurlyMireya Banned Posts: 956Banned Users
    Eilonwy wrote:
    I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.

    It's just a computer that's signing up, not an actual person. A spambot. I don't remember if, in order to register, you have to type in a series of distorted numbers and letters. I believe that usually takes care of bots.

    No on this site you don't have to type in the numbers and letters. So how do these spambots know what forums to post on (there seems to be a lot more spam on some forums than others), or is there a way for it to just distribute spam to random forums? I wonder how they come up with these funky names too. I noticed there are a lot of spam names with "And," "ert," and "lee." This is so interesting to me for some reason. I picture a little robot sitting at his computer typing porn posts. :lol: Have you noticed that one or two posts will be made under a certain spam name, then it's a new name with a new account posting the same stuff the next day (the angelina boob link is an example)? Why don't they just keep the same account and continue to post under that name? I guess it is harder to track whoever or whatever is posting the spam when they keep coming up with new accounts?
    "I'm half Hispanic, half white, and look like an Indian." - Bill Richardson
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Eilonwy wrote:
    I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

    Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.

    It's just a computer that's signing up, not an actual person. A spambot. I don't remember if, in order to register, you have to type in a series of distorted numbers and letters. I believe that usually takes care of bots.

    No on this site you don't have to type in the numbers and letters. So how do these spambots know what forums to post on (there seems to be a lot more spam on some forums than others), or is there a way for it to just distribute spam to random forums? I wonder how they come up with these funky names too. I noticed there are a lot of spam names with "And," "ert," and "lee." This is so interesting to me for some reason. I picture a little robot sitting at his computer typing porn posts. :lol: Have you noticed that one or two posts will be made under a certain spam name, then it's a new name with a new account posting the same stuff the next day (the angelina boob link is an example)? Why don't they just keep the same account and continue to post under that name? I guess it is harder to track whoever or whatever is posting the spam when they keep coming up with new accounts?

    There are programs that automatically collect email addresses, forum addresses, and forms to sign up for email accounts. I don't know anything about computer programming, but the spambots are programmed to fill out this information to send spam. If you ever post your email address on a website, you could benefit from writing it as "blah AT blah REMOVE LETTERS IN CAPS .com"

    The bots create different forum accounts for the same link because it's assumed that each account will be banned once it has posted spam. They have different names that are mixed-up versions (not necessarily anagrams) of the same phrase. The main spambot on this site always uses a variation of "hard monster dick." This usually ends up as "terdick" or something.

    I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?
  • CurlyMireyaCurlyMireya Banned Posts: 956Banned Users
    I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?

    There is a lot for vitamin supplements and tramadol (whatever that is) too. So are none of these people actually selling products? I followed one of the links about b vitamins just because I was curious if it would lead me to a legitimate site. I have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection, so I felt I'd be ok risking it. I assumed that many of them just want you to click to get computer info, but the vitamin b link went to an actual vitamins site. I guess the site is being used as a prop? I should be more careful, being so ignorant about this stuff.
    "I'm half Hispanic, half white, and look like an Indian." - Bill Richardson
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?

    There is a lot for vitamin supplements and tramadol (whatever that is) too. So are none of these people actually selling products? I followed one of the links about b vitamins just because I was curious if it would lead me to a legitimate site. I have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection, so I felt I'd be ok risking it. I assumed that many of them just want you to click to get computer info, but the vitamin b link went to an actual vitamins site. I guess the site is being used as a prop? I should be more careful, being so ignorant about this stuff.

    I think these sites are usually either meant to give your computer spyware or viruses, or to let you buy counterfeit prescription drugs. Tramadol, for instance, is an opiate painkiller that people could use to get high.

    If you really want to avoid spyware, you should get Firefox and add NoScript, Adblock Plus, and Filterset G. But even then, you'll need anti-virus and anti-spyware programs to pick up whatever slipped through the cracks.
  • CurlyMireyaCurlyMireya Banned Posts: 956Banned Users
    Eilonwy wrote:
    I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?

    There is a lot for vitamin supplements and tramadol (whatever that is) too. So are none of these people actually selling products? I followed one of the links about b vitamins just because I was curious if it would lead me to a legitimate site. I have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection, so I felt I'd be ok risking it. I assumed that many of them just want you to click to get computer info, but the vitamin b link went to an actual vitamins site. I guess the site is being used as a prop? I should be more careful, being so ignorant about this stuff.

    I think these sites are usually either meant to give your computer spyware or viruses, or to let you buy counterfeit prescription drugs. Tramadol, for instance, is an opiate painkiller that people could use to get high.

    If you really want to avoid spyware, you should get Firefox and add NoScript, Adblock Plus, and Filterset G. But even then, you'll need anti-virus and anti-spyware programs to pick up whatever slipped through the cracks.

    Thanks for the info. I have Virusscan and Spybot. I'm going to be really careful about what I open up from now on just in case.
    "I'm half Hispanic, half white, and look like an Indian." - Bill Richardson
  • EilonwyEilonwy Posts: 12,389Registered Users
    Thanks for the info. I have Virusscan and Spybot. I'm going to be really careful about what I open up from now on just in case.

    Spybot is a horrible program, just fyi. That company actually MAKES spyware, and they let a ton of it slip through. You should use Ad Aware. It's free software with a great track record. Just google "adaware" and you'll find it.

    EDIT for spelling
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I don't pretend to know a thing about how spam, spyware, viruses, etc work. But I wonder why this forum seems to be getting more and more spam. Other forums I visit never get any at all. And isn't it a weird coincidence that the Long Hair board and NC both seem to be having spam problems at the same time?
    I don't know. It seems kind of virus-like to me, when a board can't keep the spam out.
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  • SuZenSuZen Posts: 1,595Registered Users
    As I understand it, there is some complicated and expensive programming that can keep out most spam. We have a pretty effective spam blocker at work. Not cheap, though.

    I think Gretchen mentioned elsewhere that she's going to get her programming guru to try to come up with something.