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does your hairdresser dry your hair after cutting?

I have always had my hair washed and styled after cutting. My new hairdresser seems relucant to do this. I like the way she cuts my hair and the price is right but I don't understand this about her. She washes my hair and cuts it and then she asks if I want it dried a bit. Yes I want it dried and styled. She doesn't offer a discount for not drying. I don't know if she thinks curly hair is better air dried. My hair is thick...maybe she doesn't want to spend the time. the client before me this last time had straight hair and I watched her dry and style that client's hair.
Anyone have an idea about this?
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  • curlybrancurlybran Posts: 510Registered Users
    I know nearly every stylist I have ever been to asked... But then my mom and SIS have straight hair and they ask them also. But I wld guess its more that they know most ppl with curly hair wld rather do it theirself or dont like using heat

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  • sdkittysdkitty Posts: 358Registered Users
    Well the funny thing is she asked me when I made the appointment and I said yes I wanted it dried. Then after cutting she asked again and I said yes. So she dried it part-way but left it very damp. She is cutting my hair the way I want for a reasonable price so I guess I won't make an issue of this.
    I'd go home and finish it myself but I rarely go straight home after a hair appointment.
    curlybran wrote: »
    I know nearly every stylist I have ever been to asked... But then my mom and SIS have straight hair and they ask them also. But I wld guess its more that they know most ppl with curly hair wld rather do it theirself or dont like using heat

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  • curlybrancurlybran Posts: 510Registered Users
    Oh well then ya that dsnt really make sense lol

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  • CyanbobcatCyanbobcat Posts: 65Registered Users
    It may be that she has had a bad experience trying to blow dry someone with curly/wavy hair. As I just posted somewhere else, I've had many a stylist insist that they could blow my hair out smooth. Of course they failed... miserably. This may have happened to her and she has sworn off blow drying curlies.
  • sdkittysdkitty Posts: 358Registered Users
    Cyanbobcat wrote: »
    It may be that she has had a bad experience trying to blow dry someone with curly/wavy hair. As I just posted somewhere else, I've had many a stylist insist that they could blow my hair out smooth. Of course they failed... miserably. This may have happened to her and she has sworn off blow drying curlies.

    I just want her to dry with the diffuser....maybe she thinks if she dried it all the way or most of the way it will be more frizzy......guess I'll just be satisfied that she's doing my layers the way I want
  • SystemSystem Posts: 39,059 Administrator
    I don't have my hair dryed because I don't use heat on my hair. My hair is a frizz mass after using a blowdryer and a defuser takes too long. I always go to the salon with my hair prewashed, detangled, and in a braid. I just rebraid after I'm done with my trim.
  • mintheminthe Banned Posts: 209Banned Users
    The last time, she went ahead and did it. She didn't charge anything extra. Usually, they don't dry it or else they ask. Though, I typically cut my own hair. My hair has straightened naturally so much that I think they now will assume i want to wear it straight (and I usually do unless it's one of those rare nice humid days that I can get a nice full wave!).

    I only went to a salon b/c at this shorter length, I can't cut it myself w/o butchering it. :flower:I haven't decided what to do with it long-term. Salons are pricey esp. if your hair grows fast. I typically don't care what they do as far as methods of cutting, drying etc. I don't like to spend a lot so I give them freedom tho I'm pretty particular about them not cutting too much or layering if I did not ask for that! If it gets fluffy or something from their blowdrying or styling, I just pull it back. I always have to mess with it myself later anyway!
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  • Robin-in-FLRobin-in-FL Posts: 1,731Registered Users
    My initial reaction was, of course they should finish your hair for you!

    But upon reflection I realized I've only had two hairstylists who could successfully diffuse & style mine curly, and the others would try to blow it straight with varying measures of success; and even the ones who could dry it curly it still looked better if I went home and did it myself, so I guess no it really doesn't matter.

    But if they don't do it I do think the price should be different; Tiffany who I go to now has 3 or 4 different prices for how much you want 'finished' beyond just the dry haircut, and this makes sense to me.
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  • jlpmom23jlpmom23 Posts: 755Registered Users
    I have the opposite issue, my stylist is super weird about letting you leave wet and not styled. Too the point where it is really awkward and I don't even ask anymore. The one time I asked her, and she said it wasn't her policy to let someone leave "unfinished". I was still willing to pay the full price, but relented. Another time I got a call from my kid's school saying my daughter had gotten sick and to come get her. Of course, she was understanding about that one.

    She gives the most awesome cut and she is a genius w/ color, but I HATE the way she styles me curly. She gives the best blowouts, so I just go w/ that now, and enjoy straight hair for a couple days each time I see her.
  • crazywavescrazywaves Posts: 582Registered Users
    Mine will let me sit under a dryer but she dont do blow outs at all. I can honestly say that no one would be able to style my hair to my liking. Styling for me is all about technique. She will allow me to style my hair there using any of her products if I want at no extra charge. She gives a great cut so not much more I could ask for. I get cut and color for 40.00 cant beat the price either.
  • oh.hi.its.stephoh.hi.its.steph Posts: 640Registered Users
    Whenever I'm getting a blowout, they do dry it all the way and then straighten -- but I haven't done that in over a year! I've been going to more curl-focused salons. At my DEVA cut, she dried it most of the way but it was still slightly damp when I left. I was okay with it, though. I have massive amounts of hair, so diffusing it entirely would probably take hours and leave lots of frizz! My non-Deva but also curl-loving stylist does a similar thing, he pretty much dried my hair to the point where it was about... halfway done? Mostly dry up at the roots, and not drippy. I was fine with it, my hair dried completely in about an hour and a half. :) I generally think stylists are hesitant to dry curly hair completely because it can cause frizz or it just takes way too long.
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  • HazelTesseraHazelTessera Posts: 11Registered Users
    The last time I had my hair cut, the stylist diffused my hair about 75% of the way, and told me it would look better if it air-dried the rest of the way. So I left the salon and went back home. Half an hour later I found out she was right!

    So sometimes it's better to not have your hair dried all the way.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users
    I never want them to unless it's too cold to leave with it wet. Even those good with curly hair can never style it to my satisfaction because it doesn't do well if it's styled before it's absolutely dry, and they never get it that way - whether styling curly or straight they always leave enough dampness in it to screw it up.

    I like when they clip the top and just let me sit under a halo dryer or infrared lights, if anything.
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  • sheilacurlsheilacurl Posts: 1,240Registered Users
    I've never left a salon with great or even decent looking curls. They have only been successful blowdrying it straight. If they attempt to use a diffuser it would just look and feel horrible. The last cut I had was by a lady "who specialized in curly hair". She played with my hair so much while she was diffusing that it looked like she took a brush to it after it was dry. I came home and hopped right into the shower LOL :D
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  • crwrittcrwritt Posts: 705Registered Users
    sdkitty wrote: »
    I have always had my hair washed and styled after cutting. My new hairdresser seems relucant to do this. I like the way she cuts my hair and the price is right but I don't understand this about her. She washes my hair and cuts it and then she asks if I want it dried a bit. Yes I want it dried and styled. She doesn't offer a discount for not drying. I don't know if she thinks curly hair is better air dried. My hair is thick...maybe she doesn't want to spend the time. the client before me this last time had straight hair and I watched her dry and style that client's hair.
    Anyone have an idea about this?

    I usually bring my leave in and gel and ask to sit under the salon dryer. I have one at home, and I think my hair dries faster with my home one!
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,571Registered Users
    My stylist would if I asked, but she has done it before and I didn't really like it as much. She does clip it and let me sit under the hood dryer, or I can borrow her blowdryer and diffuser and do it myself.

    Now that she's gone mobile too, she comes to my house, so I rinse and style and diffuse it myself. Just had it done today! :D
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  • ArtisticdaisyArtisticdaisy Posts: 24Registered Users
    I was thinking about this just recently - I have NEVER had a stylist attempt to dry my hair into curls, they all wanted to blow it out and straighten it. I used to go to a stylist who specialized in curly hair and she would always diffuse it into a knotty ratted frizzy mess - ugh! Then she would gripe about how she could never get my curls to look the way they do when I walk in. I feel kind of unfinished and devalued as a client when a stylist doesnt dry my hair. Like they cant be bothered to learn how to properly dry and style curly hair. There are loads of curlies out there and everyday more and more of us are not blow drying our curls into submission. Learn your market folks!
  • DolphinCurlsDolphinCurls Posts: 370Registered Users
    My hairstylist always asks if I want it diffused or blow dried straight. Usually I tell her to diffuse it. Actually, I am not crazy about how she styles it (to be fair part of it is that they use Aveda products which do not work for my hair). However, my hairstylist is great at cutting long layers (and many hairstylists aren't good at cutting layers at all!:laughing7:) and her prices are really reasonable, so I just accept it. I can always restyle my hair at home, plus the other hairstylists in the area are horrendous (personal experience). I'm more concerned about the cut than I am about the overall look since my hair tends to curl differently after each wash. The right cut helps enhance my waves and curls. The wrong cut makes me look like I have just stuck my fingers in the electric socket.
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  • happy-girlhappy-girl Posts: 208Registered Users
    Alrighty. Here's my two cents (as a client AND as a stylist.)

    As a client I have never ever had a hairstylist successfully do my hair to my liking. I've had a few do a decent job but it was rare for me to not immediately go home, wash my hair and start over. Only once have I had a stylist ask if I wanted it styled at all (and that was a huge fiasco in general) and one stylist gave me the option to have it blown out straight which I occasionally accepted because it is a huge pain to do myself.

    As a stylist, I would only assume that my client wants to be styled-- unless they request not to which does happen. Finishing IS part of the service but I find that when styling a curly, I have to do a much more in depth consultation just to dry them than I ever would for a traditional blowout simply because I can make no assumptions about how their hair will react.

    I also have huge limitations on what I can do because of the product lines I have at my disposal. I work at a large salon which carries 5 very high end brands and none of them work like the products available here. So when I style a curly, I just have to make an educated guess at what will get us closest to the end result we want and wing it.

    I will say that as a stylist with curly hair myself, I have a huge advantage over straight haired but more experienced stylists. I think of how long it took me to figure out how to do my own hair and, quite frankly, I can't imagine having to figure that out on another person randomly over and over with different hair each time.

    Strangely enough, the majority of the curlies who come in have no clue what they're doing anyway and when I show them some basic tricks, it kind of blows their minds. When I mention this website as a resource, it blows their minds. I say this only to point out that most stylists are probably not used to (#1) doing curly hair and (#2) being expected to do it correctly (i.e. how WE as curlies do it.)

    Anyway...
    I think I'm getting rambly.
    If your stylist can't blow your hair out straight, that's just ridiculous. There's no reason for a competent stylist to not be able to take you from curly to straight (and without a flatiron.) That's just basic stuff.
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  • miranda bananamiranda banana Posts: 6Registered Users
    I can't imagine ever leaving a salon with WET HAIR!? To me, you should leave the salon ready to go out to dinner, on a date, etc. It's kind of a rip off to leave the salon with "incomplete" hair. I would also think its not good for the salons image, to have clients leaving with an unfinished hair do.

    Curly hair in particular looks really different when its dry, so how can you know that you got the look you were seeking? If my stylist did this, it would be a big no-no for me.
  • CyanbobcatCyanbobcat Posts: 65Registered Users
    happy-girl wrote: »
    If your stylist can't blow your hair out straight, that's just ridiculous. There's no reason for a competent stylist to not be able to take you from curly to straight (and without a flatiron.) That's just basic stuff.

    I have never had a stylist manage to blow out my hair and have it look good. The result is always 'country singer bouffant' hairdo. They all were very sure they could but that's not how it turned out. I have very thick, coarse hair. I don't even let anyone try anymore.
  • smasters467smasters467 Posts: 527Registered Users
    I rarely got get a haircut, I usually do it myself. On the rare occasions that I pay someone else to do it, I never let them style my hair. Straight or curly, I have never had a stylist fix my hair and it look good. I can explain how I style it until I'm blue in the face, and they always think they know better ways of doing things. They never do. I have no idea why.
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  • sdkittysdkitty Posts: 358Registered Users
    I can't imagine ever leaving a salon with WET HAIR!? To me, you should leave the salon ready to go out to dinner, on a date, etc. It's kind of a rip off to leave the salon with "incomplete" hair. I would also think its not good for the salons image, to have clients leaving with an unfinished hair do.

    Curly hair in particular looks really different when its dry, so how can you know that you got the look you were seeking? If my stylist did this, it would be a big no-no for me.

    I just got my hair cut again last week. She started drying it and then said "oh, do you want me to dry it?" I said yes. She dried it for a few minutes and then with my hair still VERY damp, she showed me the back with the mirror. I said it was fine and left. With driving home and finishing it with my dryer it only took a few more minutes. But if I'd been going out instead of going home, it would have been totally unacceptable.

    She's a nice girl and my cut is satisfactory for a reasonable price but this kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
    Still better than following my old stylist downtown, paying twice as much plus hassling with parking.
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,081Registered Users Curl Novice
    i generally prefer to leave with my hair wet, but if it is really cold out or i am going out straight from there, i diffuse my own hair with their dryer/diffuser. every place i've ever been to will allow you to do this.

    she may not dry/style it to cut down on time, save $$. the cut is the important thing for me, so if you are happy with the cut, i'd stay with her and ask to use her dryer/diffuser.

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  • victoria.t.rvictoria.t.r Posts: 6Registered Users
    My hairdresser always asks if I want my hair straight or curly. Usually I want it curly and if it's warm out I will leave with it wet. When it's cold she sits me under a dryer to dry it. I'm okay with this as I would rather have my hair air dried whenever possible.
  • sdkittysdkitty Posts: 358Registered Users
    rbb wrote: »
    i generally prefer to leave with my hair wet, but if it is really cold out or i am going out straight from there, i diffuse my own hair with their dryer/diffuser. every place i've ever been to will allow you to do this.

    she may not dry/style it to cut down on time, save $$. the cut is the important thing for me, so if you are happy with the cut, i'd stay with her and ask to use her dryer/diffuser.[/QUOT
    Maybe I'll try asking to use her dryer to finish it myself. I think she just feels it takes too long to dry my long thick hair. But when I say yes I want it dried, to me it should look finished when I leave the shop.
    My hairdresser always asks if I want my hair straight or curly. Usually I want it curly and if it's warm out I will leave with it wet. When it's cold she sits me under a dryer to dry it. I'm okay with this as I would rather have my hair air dried whenever possible.

    I wouldn't ask her to dry my hair straight as I think it would be more work. But drying it to the point where it looks like curly hair (not flat to my head) would be nice, esp when no one else is waiting for her.
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    Just like a lot of other curlies here, I'm hard-pressed to get a good style/drying after a cut.

    Maybe your stylist thinks more about time equaling money, or she's ignorant about drying curls. On the surface, her behavior seems disrespectful, considering she didn't leave you wet or send you out dry, but did some half-azzed in between job instead.

    Maybe curly-reluctant stylists figure one disgruntled curly customer won't matter because the majority of their potential clientele don't want or respect curly hair anyway (They'll just think, "Well can you blame your stylist?" ... or that's maybe the assumed reaction). And this may be overly-cynical, but I'm guessing a lot of stylists are relieved when curly customers don't return, or swear off other potential curly customers. Until more of society embraces curls, we're outnumbered and a lot of stylists won't be clamoring for our business or closely monitoring our needs (except to "straighten us out"). Sad but true. It's why I now choose salons specializing in curly hair.

    Anyway, this is all just guess work when it comes to what lurks inside your specific stylist's brain. I've found that communication is the best policy with whatever stylist. Only your stylist can tell you what's up, really. Better to ask her why she seem reluctant to dry your hair and also let her know specifically what you want, even if it makes you uncomfortable to stand up for yourself. You could also just not go back again and forfeit the good and cheap cut she gives you. But then I'd discuss your needs plainly w/your next stylist to try and avoid another unwanted situation.
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users
    I haven't had my hair dried/styled since I wore my hair straight--maybe 1973 or 4?? I always leave with it wet--even when it's really cold.

    When I schedule my appointment, they always ask cut/blow dry--and I respond just a cut. They do that to schedule the timing. A blow dry would also be another "service" and cost more. Since I wear my hair curly and don't blow dry it (only a little diffusing), it's not something I'd want my stylist to do. He's given me fabulous cuts and color work for over 30 years. I feel that I style it better, so wet and style when I get home, if I'm going out.
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  • sdkittysdkitty Posts: 358Registered Users
    Korkscrew wrote: »
    Just like a lot of other curlies here, I'm hard-pressed to get a good style/drying after a cut.

    Maybe your stylist thinks more about time equaling money, or she's ignorant about drying curls. On the surface, her behavior seems disrespectful, considering she didn't leave you wet or send you out dry, but did some half-azzed in between job instead.

    Maybe curly-reluctant stylists figure one disgruntled curly customer won't matter because the majority of their potential clientele don't want or respect curly hair anyway (They'll just think, "Well can you blame your stylist?" ... or that's maybe the assumed reaction). And this may be overly-cynical, but I'm guessing a lot of stylists are relieved when curly customers don't return, or swear off other potential curly customers. Until more of society embraces curls, we're outnumbered and a lot of stylists won't be clamoring for our business or closely monitoring our needs (except to "straighten us out"). Sad but true. It's why I now choose salons specializing in curly hair.

    Anyway, this is all just guess work when it comes to what lurks inside your specific stylist's brain. I've found that communication is the best policy with whatever stylist. Only your stylist can tell you what's up, really. Better to ask her why she seem reluctant to dry your hair and also let her know specifically what you want, even if it makes you uncomfortable to stand up for yourself. You could also just not go back again and forfeit the good and cheap cut she gives you. But then I'd discuss your needs plainly w/your next stylist to try and avoid another unwanted situation.

    You're right, I should just ask her why she doesn't want to dry my hair. I think I'm afraid that (a) I'll offend her and (b) she will say it's more work and want to charge extra.
    So I go on being annoyed when I leave the salon but basically being satisfied with my cut during the three months between cuts.
  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users
    sdkitty wrote: »
    You're right, I should just ask her why she doesn't want to dry my hair. I think I'm afraid that (a) I'll offend her and (b) she will say it's more work and want to charge extra.
    So I go on being annoyed when I leave the salon but basically being satisfied with my cut during the three months between cuts.

    It sounds like you're getting something out of this arrangement even though it's not ideal - a bargain is nothing to scoff at ;) ... Just a gentle piece of advice though, about offending stylists: if hair-related questions ever offend a stylist, that's excellent info. It means you aren't respected as a customer and it's time to fire the person (assuming it wasn't just a bad day for her, resulting in a strident apology). This person works for you, not the other way around.

    Anyway, all the best to you :)
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