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Co-washing and thinning hair?

t_schachert_schacher Posts: 3Registered Users
I have some thinning at the front/crown area which is maddening! My hairstylist said that it is probably because I was using conditioner and not shampoo, which could have clogged my folicles causing the thinning.

Has anyone else been told this? And is it true? Lorraine Massey doesn't shampoo for long periods of time, many of us on this site have co-washed for years...is there any truth to this?

I am frustrated because my hair was in such great condition when I gave up shampoo but now I just don't know what to do. And I guess I'd rather have full, dryer hair than thinning hair!

thanks!

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  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    Hair stylists are mind controlled to believe that shampoo and silicones are the holy grail. Anything else will cause xyz.
    Hair loss is caused by your genetic profile or disease. There are many communities around the world that live with scalps that are seldom cleaned but have no less incidence of balding heads than "cleaner" communities.

    Do I believe co-washing is causing your hair to fall out? No.
    But there is a reason your hair is falling out and you need to find out why. can be anything from stress, poor diet, medications,, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid issues, autoimmune disease like lupus, anemia, and the list goes on.

    For me, I lost my hair from lupus and the medications used in the treatment. Rogaine and Biotin have restored almost all of my hair.
    I use Rogaine 5% (generic version) and Biotin 5000mcg. Rogaine takes 6-9 months to notice any change but since it's affordable (20$/3 month supply), it's not a big waste of money and there's little time commitment.
  • t_schachert_schacher Posts: 3Registered Users
    Thanks crimsonshedemon! That is what I was thinking too but I appreciate someone else's thoughts. Yes, I need to find out why I my hair is thinning. Glad to hear you have found a remedy.
  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    I suggest keeping a journal. Log everything- the weather, what you eat, activity, how you feel, etc. You may see a pattern form.
    Make sure your not anemic, your testosterone level is good and your thyroid is functioning properly. both are common reasons women lose hair.
    Many times doctors will ignore your complaint of hair loss unless they see bald patches. Just a heads up.
  • pinksugarpinksugar Posts: 2,346Registered Users
    My hair was thinning when I was using Suave for my cowash. I switched to No Poo and I quit losing as much hair and have new regrowth. I've noticed a BIG difference.
  • MirabellaMirabella Posts: 40Registered Users
    I came across this article in regards to cowashing causing thinning: Excessive Shedding: Could Co-Washing Be the Culprit? « hairscapades

    This is probably not the case for most cowashers, but could be relevant for you.
  • skillsgillskillsgill Posts: 4Registered Users
    Hi, this is Shelli of Hairscapades. I know that this is controversial, but though I saw a little decrease in my shedding when I kept the conditioner away from my scalp, what really decreased my shedding was an ApHogee 2 minute Keratin Protein treatment. My shedding started to increase a lot in September/October last year. I mean, I couldn't touch my hair without strands coming out non-stop. The protein treatment stopped this in its tracks!!

    ApHogee 2 Minute Keratin Reconstructor « hairscapades

    I hadn't used protein in forever and though I used henna, it was only on my roots as it was loosening my curls with repeated applications. So, I think my hair needed a strengthening treatment.

    If you don't use protein, you may want to try it out ... and, make certain you follow a protein treatment with a moisturizing conditioner (I would suggest a deep conditioner, not an instant one).

    Hope that helps!
    [/SIGPIC]Self-proclaimed product junkie not yet ready to begin rehab!! Can't help me until I'm ready to help myself!!! :sunny:
  • AndylynnAndylynn Posts: 2Registered Users
    I've honestly been wondering this too! Over the past year or so I've noticed that there are areas around my crown where you can literally see my scalp. At first it wasn't that big of a deal and I just assumed it was cause my hair was splitting/parting there in a weird way but as a year has progressed it is def more than just that and becoming more noticiable. It literally has me in tears because it makes me feel ugly! And it's so weird because the rest of my hair is still thick and curly. It's just my roots and crown.

    I've been trying to figure out what might be going on and then I recently heard someone say how co washing can actually cause hair loss. And the more I think about......I started doing co wash only a little over a year ago and it's been a year since this issue has started. While my ends are softer due to co washing I too am wondering if it's causing me to lose my hair!


    Sorry this didn't really give you an answer but I just wanted to share that this hair loss/thinning hair issue seemed to only become a bigger issue after I started co washing
  • BonadeaBonadea Posts: 15Registered Users
    Ive asked this too before. I know my hair is fine and the hair in front is super fine. I was thinking maybe by cowashing I was manipulating the hair in that area too much, rubbing and scrubbing too much.
  • Azalea38Azalea38 Posts: 10Registered Users
    I switched to CG method about 3 months ago and over that time I have been losing a ton more hair in the shower and shedding during the day. I mean I literally have handfuls of hair in the shower. So, I think I'm going to have to go back to my previous wash, which was sulfate free. I have thick 3A hair, however I am completely freaked out about the amount of hair I'm losing. Doing the CG method is not worth it to me if it means losing this much hair on a regular basis. I know otherwise I am completely healthy-no hormone issues, thyroid is normal, everything is completely in line with where it should be. The ONLY thing that has changed is I switched to Deva Curl products.
  • WavycatWavycat Posts: 281Registered Users
    It depends though. If you have an increase of shedding in the shower but you are increasing the time between washing combined with not combing it could be that. I only wash twice a week and I have shower squirrels by the time I'm done ( I try to put the hairs on the wall and throw them out) but I don't comb my hair in between so all the hairs that I would have shed and combed out before are still hanging around by the time I wash. I was concerned in the beginning until I started measuring my ponytail the same way for a while. I notice a difference in my ponytail day 1 compared to day 3 but it is always consistently the same measurement on day 1 and the same measurement on day 3. I finally was able to see it wasn't thinning like I thought it was.
    SE PA
    2C/3A med, med density,med elasticity, high porosity color-treated
    No Poo: various VO5s testing Gliss Volumizing (keratin) for summer
    Citric acid rinse or vinegar
    RO: SM Honey Mask with agave
    Conditioner only styling with water, water and more water, or jojoba + SM Superfruit
    Styler: KCCC or Ecostyler Olive Oil occasionally
    Love most oils but can't use CO in winter
  • Azalea38Azalea38 Posts: 10Registered Users
    Wavycat wrote: »
    It depends though. If you have an increase of shedding in the shower but you are increasing the time between washing combined with not combing it could be that. I only wash twice a week and I have shower squirrels by the time I'm done ( I try to put the hairs on the wall and throw them out) but I don't comb my hair in between so all the hairs that I would have shed and combed out before are still hanging around by the time I wash. I was concerned in the beginning until I started measuring my ponytail the same way for a while. I notice a difference in my ponytail day 1 compared to day 3 but it is always consistently the same measurement on day 1 and the same measurement on day 3. I finally was able to see it wasn't thinning like I thought it was.



    My process and the frequency with which I wash has not changed. I have never washed my hair frequently, nor have I ever combed in between washes. I am washing exactly the same number of times per week and using the exact same method of styling and refreshing on subsequent days. Again, the ONLY thing that has changed is the products I am using. I had switched to only Deva products: no poo, one condition, ultra defining gel and arc angel gel.


    Not every product and process works the same for everyone and everyone can react to products differently. I am glad for those that don't seem to have this issue with Deva products or the CG method in general. However, I know for a fact this is what is causing my issue.
  • WavycatWavycat Posts: 281Registered Users
    Then I would probably agree that CG isn't for you. I'm modified myself so I know what you mean. Everybody has to do what's best for them.
    SE PA
    2C/3A med, med density,med elasticity, high porosity color-treated
    No Poo: various VO5s testing Gliss Volumizing (keratin) for summer
    Citric acid rinse or vinegar
    RO: SM Honey Mask with agave
    Conditioner only styling with water, water and more water, or jojoba + SM Superfruit
    Styler: KCCC or Ecostyler Olive Oil occasionally
    Love most oils but can't use CO in winter