Co-washing and thinning hair?

t_schachert_schacher Registered Users Posts: 3
I have some thinning at the front/crown area which is maddening! My hairstylist said that it is probably because I was using conditioner and not shampoo, which could have clogged my folicles causing the thinning.

Has anyone else been told this? And is it true? Lorraine Massey doesn't shampoo for long periods of time, many of us on this site have co-washed for years...is there any truth to this?

I am frustrated because my hair was in such great condition when I gave up shampoo but now I just don't know what to do. And I guess I'd rather have full, dryer hair than thinning hair!

thanks!

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  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Registered Users Posts: 2,098
    Hair stylists are mind controlled to believe that shampoo and silicones are the holy grail. Anything else will cause xyz.
    Hair loss is caused by your genetic profile or disease. There are many communities around the world that live with scalps that are seldom cleaned but have no less incidence of balding heads than "cleaner" communities.

    Do I believe co-washing is causing your hair to fall out? No.
    But there is a reason your hair is falling out and you need to find out why. can be anything from stress, poor diet, medications,, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid issues, autoimmune disease like lupus, anemia, and the list goes on.

    For me, I lost my hair from lupus and the medications used in the treatment. Rogaine and Biotin have restored almost all of my hair.
    I use Rogaine 5% (generic version) and Biotin 5000mcg. Rogaine takes 6-9 months to notice any change but since it's affordable (20$/3 month supply), it's not a big waste of money and there's little time commitment.
  • t_schachert_schacher Registered Users Posts: 3
    Thanks crimsonshedemon! That is what I was thinking too but I appreciate someone else's thoughts. Yes, I need to find out why I my hair is thinning. Glad to hear you have found a remedy.
  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Registered Users Posts: 2,098
    I suggest keeping a journal. Log everything- the weather, what you eat, activity, how you feel, etc. You may see a pattern form.
    Make sure your not anemic, your testosterone level is good and your thyroid is functioning properly. both are common reasons women lose hair.
    Many times doctors will ignore your complaint of hair loss unless they see bald patches. Just a heads up.
  • pinksugarpinksugar Registered Users Posts: 2,346 Curl Connoisseur
    My hair was thinning when I was using Suave for my cowash. I switched to No Poo and I quit losing as much hair and have new regrowth. I've noticed a BIG difference.
  • MirabellaMirabella Registered Users Posts: 40
    I came across this article in regards to cowashing causing thinning: Excessive Shedding: Could Co-Washing Be the Culprit? « hairscapades

    This is probably not the case for most cowashers, but could be relevant for you.
  • skillsgillskillsgill Registered Users Posts: 4
    Hi, this is Shelli of Hairscapades. I know that this is controversial, but though I saw a little decrease in my shedding when I kept the conditioner away from my scalp, what really decreased my shedding was an ApHogee 2 minute Keratin Protein treatment. My shedding started to increase a lot in September/October last year. I mean, I couldn't touch my hair without strands coming out non-stop. The protein treatment stopped this in its tracks!!

    ApHogee 2 Minute Keratin Reconstructor « hairscapades

    I hadn't used protein in forever and though I used henna, it was only on my roots as it was loosening my curls with repeated applications. So, I think my hair needed a strengthening treatment.

    If you don't use protein, you may want to try it out ... and, make certain you follow a protein treatment with a moisturizing conditioner (I would suggest a deep conditioner, not an instant one).

    Hope that helps!
    [/SIGPIC]Self-proclaimed product junkie not yet ready to begin rehab!! Can't help me until I'm ready to help myself!!! :sunny:
  • AndylynnAndylynn Registered Users Posts: 2
    I've honestly been wondering this too! Over the past year or so I've noticed that there are areas around my crown where you can literally see my scalp. At first it wasn't that big of a deal and I just assumed it was cause my hair was splitting/parting there in a weird way but as a year has progressed it is def more than just that and becoming more noticiable. It literally has me in tears because it makes me feel ugly! And it's so weird because the rest of my hair is still thick and curly. It's just my roots and crown.

    I've been trying to figure out what might be going on and then I recently heard someone say how co washing can actually cause hair loss. And the more I think about......I started doing co wash only a little over a year ago and it's been a year since this issue has started. While my ends are softer due to co washing I too am wondering if it's causing me to lose my hair!


    Sorry this didn't really give you an answer but I just wanted to share that this hair loss/thinning hair issue seemed to only become a bigger issue after I started co washing
  • BonadeaBonadea Registered Users Posts: 15
    Ive asked this too before. I know my hair is fine and the hair in front is super fine. I was thinking maybe by cowashing I was manipulating the hair in that area too much, rubbing and scrubbing too much.
  • Azalea38Azalea38 Registered Users Posts: 12 Curl Neophyte
    I switched to CG method about 3 months ago and over that time I have been losing a ton more hair in the shower and shedding during the day. I mean I literally have handfuls of hair in the shower. So, I think I'm going to have to go back to my previous wash, which was sulfate free. I have thick 3A hair, however I am completely freaked out about the amount of hair I'm losing. Doing the CG method is not worth it to me if it means losing this much hair on a regular basis. I know otherwise I am completely healthy-no hormone issues, thyroid is normal, everything is completely in line with where it should be. The ONLY thing that has changed is I switched to Deva Curl products.
  • WavycatWavycat Registered Users Posts: 325 Curl Connoisseur
    It depends though. If you have an increase of shedding in the shower but you are increasing the time between washing combined with not combing it could be that. I only wash twice a week and I have shower squirrels by the time I'm done ( I try to put the hairs on the wall and throw them out) but I don't comb my hair in between so all the hairs that I would have shed and combed out before are still hanging around by the time I wash. I was concerned in the beginning until I started measuring my ponytail the same way for a while. I notice a difference in my ponytail day 1 compared to day 3 but it is always consistently the same measurement on day 1 and the same measurement on day 3. I finally was able to see it wasn't thinning like I thought it was.
    SE PA
    2C/3A med, med density,med elasticity, high porosity color-treated
    No Poo: various VO5s testing Gliss Volumizing (keratin) for summer
    Citric acid rinse or vinegar
    RO: SM Honey Mask with agave
    Conditioner only styling with water, water and more water, or jojoba + SM Superfruit
    Styler: KCCC or Ecostyler Olive Oil occasionally
    Love most oils but can't use CO in winter
  • Azalea38Azalea38 Registered Users Posts: 12 Curl Neophyte
    Wavycat wrote: »
    It depends though. If you have an increase of shedding in the shower but you are increasing the time between washing combined with not combing it could be that. I only wash twice a week and I have shower squirrels by the time I'm done ( I try to put the hairs on the wall and throw them out) but I don't comb my hair in between so all the hairs that I would have shed and combed out before are still hanging around by the time I wash. I was concerned in the beginning until I started measuring my ponytail the same way for a while. I notice a difference in my ponytail day 1 compared to day 3 but it is always consistently the same measurement on day 1 and the same measurement on day 3. I finally was able to see it wasn't thinning like I thought it was.



    My process and the frequency with which I wash has not changed. I have never washed my hair frequently, nor have I ever combed in between washes. I am washing exactly the same number of times per week and using the exact same method of styling and refreshing on subsequent days. Again, the ONLY thing that has changed is the products I am using. I had switched to only Deva products: no poo, one condition, ultra defining gel and arc angel gel.


    Not every product and process works the same for everyone and everyone can react to products differently. I am glad for those that don't seem to have this issue with Deva products or the CG method in general. However, I know for a fact this is what is causing my issue.
  • WavycatWavycat Registered Users Posts: 325 Curl Connoisseur
    Then I would probably agree that CG isn't for you. I'm modified myself so I know what you mean. Everybody has to do what's best for them.
    SE PA
    2C/3A med, med density,med elasticity, high porosity color-treated
    No Poo: various VO5s testing Gliss Volumizing (keratin) for summer
    Citric acid rinse or vinegar
    RO: SM Honey Mask with agave
    Conditioner only styling with water, water and more water, or jojoba + SM Superfruit
    Styler: KCCC or Ecostyler Olive Oil occasionally
    Love most oils but can't use CO in winter
  • AmyElizabethAmyElizabeth Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 1 Curl Neophyte
    I'm new to this community, but have had super curly hair my entire life.  It's always been fine, but I started using DevaCurl about 4 years ago when I started making all of household/beauty products 'clean' and non toxic.  I want to cry daily because of how much hair I've lost (and continue to lose).  I've stopped using DevaCurl, and switched to SheaMoisture Strengthen and Regrow (or whatever it's called..it has the Jamaican castor oil) but am worried this may have the same result.  Do I need something with sulfates? I never had this issue when I was a broke college student using Tresemme.  I read a bunch of people love Lush Curly Wurly, but I've been conditioned (no pun intended) to have my skin crawl when reading some of those ingredients.  Any advice?? 

    Of note- I exercise, I eat right, I drink a ton of water, my stress level hasn't changed, and all my bloodwork is normal.  
  • bomegabomega Registered Users Posts: 1,355 Curl Virtuoso
    @AmyElizabeth: I'm sorry that the CG-Method didn't work for you, but many people don't do the full CG-Method, and modify one way or another, commonly, using a non-sulfate shampoo (low-poo). Personally, co-washing was kind of irritating and even just non-daily washing seemed to cause me to lose more hair, and my hair seemed kind of dry, so it didn't seem to have any benefits to me. I wash my hair daily with a low-poo followed by a rinse-out conditioner.
    Low-poo: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Shampoo for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Coconut & Shea Hydrating Shampoo
    Clarify: Kinky Curly Come Clean
    Rinse-out: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing Conditioner for Fine/Thin Hair (summer), Alaffia Everyday Coconut Ultra Hydrating Conditioner
    DT: Camille Rose Naturals Algae Renew Deep Conditioner
    Leave-in: As I Am Leave-in
    Styler: Lily of the Desert 99% Aloe Vera Gelly
    Treatment: Daily tea spray; Coconut oil overnight treatment; Citric acid rinse for hard water; 2-step Henndigo w/ amla to cover gray

    2C, fine, low porosity, low/medium density, protein sensitive

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