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How do I dye my very porous hair (with roots)?

raspberrysoulraspberrysoul Posts: 6Registered Users
Hello,
This is my first post, so please excuse any omissions or errors! I saw a similar post about dying hair using RC (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/general-discussion-about-curly-hair/49980-dying-hair-home-but-roots.html) but i couldn't find exactly what I needed to know. I have 2B hair and I'd like to dye my hair myself to save some $$ but it hasn't turned out well in the past. My hair grabs a lot of dye because it's been colored many times. My roots never come out as dark as the rest of my hair. I thought I could perhaps leave the dye on my roots longer than the rest of my hair, but I don't know how long, and I know that definitely matters.

My hair is dark brown with red highlights, closest to this color: Permanent Hair Color #3 Chocolate Brown

and i'd like to get it this color (a deeper brown): Permanent Hair Color #4 Dark Brown

So right now I have a little over an inch of roots. Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

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  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,571Registered Users
    Welcome! :) First, what is your natural haircolor (before color, like the roots)? Since curly hair is porous and most haircolors grab darker, you would still need to choose a color lighter than you want. Let me know what your natural color is, and I can help you out. :)
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  • raspberrysoulraspberrysoul Posts: 6Registered Users
    Hi! Thanks for replying :)

    My natural hair color is a dark brown with red highlights. I'm going to attach pics so you can see it; but they are not good pics! You'll see my hair looks very dull. I took 2 in naturalish light (it's in my office, but by a huge window) and one in the bathroom's artificial light.

    Thanks again for your help!! :D

    sunmyhair.jpg

    sunmyhair2.jpg

    artmyhair3.jpg
  • raspberrysoulraspberrysoul Posts: 6Registered Users
    Oh P.S. I have about 1-2 inches of roots, which are my natural color.

    Thanks!
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,571Registered Users
    Are you sure you want to go that dark? Your hair seems closer to Coffee Brown in the pics. Unless you want very dark hair, I think I would start with Coffee Brown, as it will actually be darker.

    I was using Coffee Brown here (with Golden Chestnut on highlights after bleaching) -

    PICT0023-vi.jpg

    If you go to my fotki you can see more current pics. I actually use Golden Chestnut all over now, and it's still medium to dark brown.

    You would need to do a strand test, leaving the color on the roots longer than the length. Usually, you would apply to the roots only for 20-45 minutes (depends on strand test timing) and would only apply color to the length/ends for the last 10 minutes or so. Then next time, just do the roots. Only refresh the length/ends as needed as it fades, maybe every couple of months or so.

    Strand testing: Separate a nice thick strand and apply color to roots only. You can check color by wiping with a dry paper towel after 20 or more minutes, depending on how dark it's looking. If it's dark enough, write down your time (and maybe wipe off color but then apply to length only to time that). If not, apply a bit more color to the strand roots, and maybe the length now, to check for color timing.

    So LMK about the color and I can help you narrow it down and choose a good shade to start. Remember, it's always easier to go darker but hard to lighten up if you go too dark. :)
    SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring" :D
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  • raspberrysoulraspberrysoul Posts: 6Registered Users
    I"m glad we are looking at pics, they are much more helpful!
    I friended you on fotki but wasn't able to see your private pics. Either way, your hair is gorgeous and I love the color. It's so rich and shiny!! That color is as dark as I'd like to go for now.

    I really appreciate your help!! I'd love to know what you think about picking a color. Thanks!!
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,571Registered Users
    I"m glad we are looking at pics, they are much more helpful!
    I friended you on fotki but wasn't able to see your private pics. Either way, your hair is gorgeous and I love the color. It's so rich and shiny!! That color is as dark as I'd like to go for now.

    I really appreciate your help!! I'd love to know what you think about picking a color. Thanks!!

    Are you looking for a neutral, cool or warm undertone? If you already have red tones (warmth) in your hair, you may still get some with neutral, I do, but I like it. :)

    I think you could start with the #8 Light Chestnut, as that is what I use for roots now and it can still be dark, depending on length of time left on. Try that and do some strand tests, LMK how that goes and I can answer any questions before you do the whole head, if needed. :)

    My PW is in my sig line.
    SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring" :D
    3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
    My Motto: Strand Test! some hair pics
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  • raspberrysoulraspberrysoul Posts: 6Registered Users
    CurliLocks wrote: »
    I"m glad we are looking at pics, they are much more helpful!
    I friended you on fotki but wasn't able to see your private pics. Either way, your hair is gorgeous and I love the color. It's so rich and shiny!! That color is as dark as I'd like to go for now.

    I really appreciate your help!! I'd love to know what you think about picking a color. Thanks!!

    Are you looking for a neutral, cool or warm undertone? If you already have red tones (warmth) in your hair, you may still get some with neutral, I do, but I like it. :)

    I think you could start with the #8 Light Chestnut, as that is what I use for roots now and it can still be dark, depending on length of time left on. Try that and do some strand tests, LMK how that goes and I can answer any questions before you do the whole head, if needed. :)

    My PW is in my sig line.

    Thanks, I was able to access your fotki!

    I'm looking for neutral because I don't know how cool would look with my skintone. However, I'd be willing to try a dark with red highlights if they were subtle...so maybe light chestnut is the way to go!

    Do you recommend any brands besides robert craig? It looks like I have to order from the site, is that right?
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,571Registered Users

    Thanks, I was able to access your fotki!

    I'm looking for neutral because I don't know how cool would look with my skintone. However, I'd be willing to try a dark with red highlights if they were subtle...so maybe light chestnut is the way to go!

    Do you recommend any brands besides robert craig? It looks like I have to order from the site, is that right?
    No, I have used RC Color for over 15 years and will never use anything else again. :thumbright: It is a non-lifting haircolor, so when it fades you still have your base underneath = no brassy hair! It is also more gentle than any other brand, no ammoia (a tiny bit of peroxide when it mixes, but not enough to dry out hair or lift color), easy to use. It's a very reputable company with great customer service, so no reason not to order online.

    If you want to try something that might be a bit warmer, you could start with the Golden Chestnut instead (I use that on the length) - it is a shade lighter than Light Chestnut. Either one should be great to get the medium-dark brown you want, it will just depend on the timing.

    LMK if you decide to try it. And LMK how the strand tests come out if you do.
    SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring" :D
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  • CurliniCurlini Posts: 258Registered Users
    Raspberrysoul-
    I've used RC - I would be very careful about the color you choose. Even with guidance from RC my color went much darker than I wanted and I had lighter roots. It's a gentle color and the shades are pretty which makes it worth trying. But it's a little tricky & doesn't work for everybody.
    I hope it works for you! :smile:
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  • raspberrysoulraspberrysoul Posts: 6Registered Users
    Curlilocks & Flippysmom - thanks, I will try RC because I've tried other brands and once ended up with black hair...Since RC isn't going to lift i'll try the lighter shade. The first pic u sent me of your hair, in this thread, has the hair color i wanted. it looked gorgeous! I see your pics from 2009 & the one from 2011 - light chestnut gave you that shade? I like the coffee brown you used, but i'm sure that will make my ends way too dark. I guess I can always go darker! I will def. let you know what happens.

    Flippysmom, you must have hair texture similar to mine. the last thing I want is to end up with jet black hair and brown roots, hahaa. Thanks for the advice, I didn't know RC had color consults.
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,571Registered Users
    for color reference, my sister's hair is a bit darker than mine naturally. In this picture, I used Golden Chestnut (left, purple) and she used Light Chestnut (right, teal). I think either one would work, but as I said, they do go darker on curly hair and it's always easier to start lighter and go darker. :) Just be sure to strand test! :D
    SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring" :D
    3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
    My Motto: Strand Test! some hair pics
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] -- gone, but never forgotten.