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Your experiences with 'natural' birth control methods

curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
In an effort to live a more 'natural/organic' lifestyle starting in 2012, I'm looking for a method of BC that does not involve hormones. I am currently on the depo provera shot. I like not having to take pills, but I really want to get rid of the hormone use altogether. I want my body to go back to its normal rhythm and menstruate regularly. Please offer me some advice, methods, or anything else that might help. Thanks!
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  • SpiderSpider Posts: 3,380Registered Users
    Condoms? Copper iud ?


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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    I happily used diaphragms for over 20 years, with no oops pregnancies. Very natural.
  • goldygoldy Posts: 5,455Registered Users
    I chart. It requires daily temps (or at least select days once you know your body), but it's pretty nice to be able to see when ovulate. Taking Charge of Your Fertility is a good starting point.
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  • JewelCurlsJewelCurls Posts: 191Registered Users
    Second the charting thing... If you are going for natural, it doesn't get any more so. I have been using this method for 5 years and so far so good. Done properly it has the same rate of success as hormonal pills, and what really sold me is that it is truly birth control, negative and positive. My mom also uses this method, she says it was amazing how quick and easy it was to switch just a tiny little bit and have a baby. She said that all her pill-taking friends took months longer than her to have babies, even though they all started trying at the same time.
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  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    Paragard IUD. I had one for 12 years. Very safe very reliable.
  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    Thanks for all the help! I have been looking into the charting thing. How do you protect yourself on the days when you know you are ovulating? Just abstain or a barrier method? Also, I currently still have the shot 'in me'. It will probably last another 2 weeks. It will probably take a few months for my cycle to get back to normal so until then what should I use? Any experience with spermicide sponges or other barrier methods? I am allergic to latex and the lamb skin condoms are a no go as well.
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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    I second the rec for charting - but your partner has to be on board and you have to be strict about it.

    Even if you choose another method, I think it is important to be aware of fertility signs in general and to know when you ovulate.

    During the fertile period, you can either abstain or use a barrier method. I abstain, and personally I think knowing I am fertile would scare me enough not to even take the tiny risk of a barrier method failure - I am very specific about when I do and don't want a pregnancy.

    The book Taking Charge of Your Fertility is very good.

    I do not like the concept of hormonal contraceptives unless there is some other medical or lifestyle reason to use them that can't be solved in another way, so I applaud your decision. I also think that as a woman it is very empowering to know what your body is doing.
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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thanks for all the help! I have been looking into the charting thing. How do you protect yourself on the days when you know you are ovulating? Just abstain or a barrier method? Also, I currently still have the shot 'in me'. It will probably last another 2 weeks. It will probably take a few months for my cycle to get back to normal so until then what should I use? Any experience with spermicide sponges or other barrier methods? I am allergic to latex and the lamb skin condoms are a no go as well.

    I think there are various types of latex-free condoms, not just lambskin ones.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thanks for all the help! I have been looking into the charting thing. How do you protect yourself on the days when you know you are ovulating? Just abstain or a barrier method? Also, I currently still have the shot 'in me'. It will probably last another 2 weeks. It will probably take a few months for my cycle to get back to normal so until then what should I use? Any experience with spermicide sponges or other barrier methods? I am allergic to latex and the lamb skin condoms are a no go as well.



    You could use silicone condoms, or get fitted for a silicone diaphragm. The sponges have too high a failure rate for me to be comfortable using them alone...I know several sponge-babies.
  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    Thanks again for more valuable advice! We have been talking about it for some time now and I have finally decided to start. I will be taking temperatures starting tomorrow even though I know the hormones are still active. How will I know when I'm ovulation again? Do I just have to wait for regular periods or are there other signs?
    3c/4a
    I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly

    Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.




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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thanks again for more valuable advice! We have been talking about it for some time now and I have finally decided to start. I will be taking temperatures starting tomorrow even though I know the hormones are still active. How will I know when I'm ovulation again? Do I just have to wait for regular periods or are there other signs?

    You need to read a book, such as TCOYF.

    The most definitive proof that ovulation has happened (short of ultrasound or conceiving a baby) is temping, but that becomes apparent after the fact (though you will start to see patterns.) If your goal is to avoid conceiving, you want to avoid sex or unprotected sex during the fertile period leading up to ovulation (usually 3-5 days, sometimes slightly less or slightly more.) You can tell you are in this zone by the quality of your cervical mucus, and some choose to check the feel and position of their cervix internally, and some have secondary symptoms such as ovulation pain. You can also use ovulation tests or a fertility monitor or some other device. The mucus is the main thing to look out for.
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Posts: 31,258Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thanks again for more valuable advice! We have been talking about it for some time now and I have finally decided to start. I will be taking temperatures starting tomorrow even though I know the hormones are still active. How will I know when I'm ovulation again? Do I just have to wait for regular periods or are there other signs?


    Yes, as Amneris says, you need to get a book on the subject, and really study it, if you want NFP (Natural Family Planning - temping, mucus, cervical position, etc.) to work for you. Since you are coming off of Depo Provera, it's possible that you won't ovulate for up to 9-12 months...or you could ovulate right away. It's just so unknown that I STRONGLY recommend you use barrier contraception until you are in a regular ovulatory cycle.
  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thanks again for more valuable advice! We have been talking about it for some time now and I have finally decided to start. I will be taking temperatures starting tomorrow even though I know the hormones are still active. How will I know when I'm ovulation again? Do I just have to wait for regular periods or are there other signs?


    Yes, as Amneris says, you need to get a book on the subject, and really study it, if you want NFP (Natural Family Planning - temping, mucus, cervical position, etc.) to work for you. Since you are coming off of Depo Provera, it's possible that you won't ovulate for up to 9-12 months...or you could ovulate right away. It's just so unknown that I STRONGLY recommend you use barrier contraception until you are in a regular ovulatory cycle.

    For sure - if not getting pregnant is a high priority for you and you are just coming off hormones, I agree that you will likely need a back-up method or a very long period of abstaining until you figure out charting. It can take 3-4 normal (your normal) cycles to get the hang of charting, and you may not have your normal cycles immediately, so you should not rely exclusively on charting at the beginning. You also shouldn't wait to see your first period because you ovulate before then - you could catch that first egg and not see a period because you are pregnant.
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  • webjockeywebjockey Posts: 2,786Registered Users
    I used ovacue. It's like charting for dummies (or the lazy, or for busy people). Not using it now because I am expecting.
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  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    I will be on amazon ASAP looking for that book. Please do Tell me more about this ovacue method!

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    I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly

    Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.




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  • curlyevcurlyev Posts: 246Registered Users
    Don't rely on charting. You may not ovulate at the same time every month, and the temp. taking is not fool-proof. It is not as effective. I know the charting method well, but that is because I'm trying to have a baby. There are some really low hormone pills you could ask about. I always used Nuva-ring, because pills made me feel horrible. If you chart as your protection, I'd suggest using an organic condom at least. Don't take a chance unless you are with someone you want to have a baby with in the future. This is just my opinion...
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  • curlyevcurlyev Posts: 246Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    I will be on amazon ASAP looking for that book. Please do Tell me more about this ovacue method!

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  • curlyevcurlyev Posts: 246Registered Users
    Amneris wrote: »
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thanks for all the help! I have been looking into the charting thing. How do you protect yourself on the days when you know you are ovulating? Just abstain or a barrier method? Also, I currently still have the shot 'in me'. It will probably last another 2 weeks. It will probably take a few months for my cycle to get back to normal so until then what should I use? Any experience with spermicide sponges or other barrier methods? I am allergic to latex and the lamb skin condoms are a no go as well.

    I think there are various types of latex-free condoms, not just lambskin ones.
    You are correct about the condoms. There are condoms that are latex-free and not lambskin. There is one brand they sell at regular drug stores, I can't remember the name, it's been a while since we used protection since we actually are trying for a baby.
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    -RO: GVP The Detangler
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    -PT: ION Effective Care (seldom)
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  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    Thank you! I started taking my temp yesterday just to get used to it. I know my hormonal BC still hasn't worn off. Curlylev, even if I don't ovulate at the same time every month, wouldn't I know when I am ovulating based on the temperature, mucus, and other symptoms like pain? When I wasn't using any kind of contraceptive, I always had some kind of pain on one side in the lower abdominal area every month about 10 days before my period. I'm pretty sure that was ovulation. Also, I'm getting married next year so I know he is the person I will be having children with at some point, but I want to be in control of that. I want to have my body in an optimal state when I become pregnant and I can't do that if I become pregnant without planning it.

    Those of you who recommended the book TCOYF, who is the author? My amazon search gave me a few books with the same name and different authors..

    Thanks!
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    I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly

    Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.




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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curlyev wrote: »
    Don't rely on charting. You may not ovulate at the same time every month, and the temp. taking is not fool-proof. It is not as effective. I know the charting method well, but that is because I'm trying to have a baby. There are some really low hormone pills you could ask about. I always used Nuva-ring, because pills made me feel horrible. If you chart as your protection, I'd suggest using an organic condom at least. Don't take a chance unless you are with someone you want to have a baby with in the future. This is just my opinion...

    I know it's just your opinion, but it is based on misconceptions. It doesn't matter whether or not you ovulate at the same time every month, because it's not the rhythm method. You are actively looking for signs of fertility every day, so whether or not this happens at regular intervals is irrelevant. It is the fertility signs and not the time of the month that are important. As to the effectiveness of charting, if used properly, its effectiveness approaches that of the Pill if used properly or is only very slightly less - I have seen stats with effectiveness of the Pill being around 98% and charting around 97%, or thereabouts. It is more effective than many barrier methods. Charting mostly fails because people take chances or don't get the hang of doing it properly, so I would say that if you want to rely on it alone you need to be very committed and very strict.

    For myself personally, I have always tended to have irregular and long cycles, and I am also strict about when I want to have babies and when I don't. I have been very committed to charting and have not used any other BC. I have only gotten pregnant when I wanted to, and then almost immediately, and I have never had a pregnancy when I did not want one - granted, it's only been 7.5 years, but so far, it has worked for me.

    Nothing other than abstinence is fool-proof...not even hormonal BC.
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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Thank you! I started taking my temp yesterday just to get used to it. I know my hormonal BC still hasn't worn off. Curlylev, even if I don't ovulate at the same time every month, wouldn't I know when I am ovulating based on the temperature, mucus, and other symptoms like pain? When I wasn't using any kind of contraceptive, I always had some kind of pain on one side in the lower abdominal area every month about 10 days before my period. I'm pretty sure that was ovulation. Also, I'm getting married next year so I know he is the person I will be having children with at some point, but I want to be in control of that. I want to have my body in an optimal state when I become pregnant and I can't do that if I become pregnant without planning it.

    Those of you who recommended the book TCOYF, who is the author? My amazon search gave me a few books with the same name and different authors..

    Thanks!

    The author is Toni Weschler. (I think that is the right spelling.)
    And your thinking is correct (see my previous post.)
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  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    Amneris, you are the reason why I am so confident about this method. My SO has doubts about it, but as soon as he comes home I will have him read your post. If this has worked for you for 7 years and you've been able to get pregnant when you want, I believe in it. I am aware that it will take time to get it right and that we have be to be strict and disciplined about it, but I would much rather make that effort than continue on the hormone stuff. Thanks a lot to everyone for all of your input. Anymore useful information is welcome. I will keep you updated on my journey.
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    I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly

    Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.




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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    Amneris, you are the reason why I am so confident about this method. My SO has doubts about it, but as soon as he comes home I will have him read your post. If this has worked for you for 7 years and you've been able to get pregnant when you want, I believe in it. I am aware that it will take time to get it right and that we have be to be strict and disciplined about it, but I would much rather make that effort than continue on the hormone stuff. Thanks a lot to everyone for all of your input. Anymore useful information is welcome. I will keep you updated on my journey.

    When I started, I educated my husband about it and he was fascinated as to how a woman's body works, and he has been right on board and it kept him really involved in the whole process.

    I am sure most men would ultimately prefer this to having to wear a condom (or not having to wear one often), or knowing you have to stuff yourself with hormones or shove things in and up yourself, when it is the man who is potentially fertile far more days than we are. Charting is also cheap and portable and discreet.

    *I don't mean to be disrespectful of other means of birth control - if you want or need to use them, do you, but no one should feel they have to use them when they would rather not if there is another alternative.
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  • webjockeywebjockey Posts: 2,786Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    I will be on amazon ASAP looking for that book. Please do Tell me more about this ovacue method!

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    It's not really a method. It's an electronic recording device that tells you when you are most fertile based on either your saliva or your vaginal secretions. You take a reading every day and it spits out your info. It's about as much effort as taking the pill. Just google ova cue. Most insurance won't cover it though.
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  • JewelCurlsJewelCurls Posts: 191Registered Users
    I had a similar experience, amneris. My husband found the whole concept interesting and was very much on board. We do not use any barrier methods and we make the decision together when to abstain, since he also understands the symptoms of fertility. It has bought us very close, and has given us a great perspective on our sexuality as a couple. I hope that it works out great for you and your finance!
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  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    Thank you! That's exactly what I'm hoping for. I want this to be something that both of us can control as a couple. We make other, far less important decisions together ALL the time. I also want to get him to understand how my body what and what it is doing on certain days. This is ultimately my goal and if charting can give me that AND control of when I have children, I'm all for it! I'm glad you ladies have shared your experiences with me. I am curious to know though, has anyone had negative experiences with this?
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    I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly

    Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.




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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    I know people who were dissatisfied with charting, but this was because they did not want to have the discipline required. My friend got pregnant on it, but she had one very ambiguous temp rise (like 0.2 degrees) in the morning and they had unprotected sex immediately that morning. The next day, her temp was down again and it didn't have a big rise until the day after that. She blamed charting, but it was really user error.
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  • goldygoldy Posts: 5,455Registered Users
    I use fertility friend to input my temperatures and cervical mucus. It's a free site and I like it a lot. It shows me my luteal phase, average days in my cycle, and average day of ovulation. You can pay for the premium features of their site (which they often offer free preview days of) and those features would be pretty helpful when trying to become pregnant.

    I use a Walgreens bbt and am happy with it. I only temp around 5-8 days before (suspected) ovulation, or once I see ewcm, until ovulation is confirmed.
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  • curledlovecurledlove Posts: 444Registered Users
    I had an app on my phone that served almost the same purpose. It was password protected so that anyone who picks up my phone cannot see my info. I am going to check out the site too though. How have you gotten success with only taking your temperature 5-8 days before suspected ovulation? Don't you have to take it everyday?
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    I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly

    Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.




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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    curledlove wrote: »
    I had an app on my phone that served almost the same purpose. It was password protected so that anyone who picks up my phone cannot see my info. I am going to check out the site too though. How have you gotten success with only taking your temperature 5-8 days before suspected ovulation? Don't you have to take it everyday?

    Once you know you have O'd, you don't need to temp until you get your period - those are safe days and you are not going to get pregnant once you know your egg is gone. Most people are dry for a few days after their period finishes so some may choose not to temp then either - that's a bigger risk, because there's always the chance your fertility can return earlier than it normally does, so if I were trying hard not to get pregnant I'd be careful with that, but if you always have longer cycles and/or are OK with raising the risk of pregnancy a tiny bit, you might choose to wait to temp until you see cervical mucus. I would never do that.

    The only reasons to temp every single day are:

    1) to get in the habit and discipline yourself to do it so you don't skip days

    2) if you are trying to get pregnant, temping after O can show possible signs of implantation (this is controversial) or if you are conceiving and miscarrying very early on, which can be helpful if you have to see a doctor

    3) to have complete charts that can tell you what your body does and what is a normal cycle for you - if after a while you have lots of those, this may be less relevant. I also know people who when they are trying to conceive don't temp once they are sure they have O'd so that they don't obsess about potential implantation signs, etc.

    4) if your luteal phase varies (which it usually doesn't, but some people say theirs does), if you are new to charting, or if you are trying to get pregnant, temping after O can show signs that your period is coming so that you can be mentally or physically prepared

    I don't recommend not charting every day unless you are a very experienced charter and you are not absolutely adamant about not conceiving. For the first several months, you need to do it every day to really get the hang of it.
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