Home›
CG BAD!

I've been doing CG for...maybe...6 months now and my hair has never been better! I've been using Moroccanoil original oil and Moroccanoil shine spray, along with R&B from Lush. Anyways, I've been rinsing my hair with conditioner so I haven't been completely CG. But because of the cones in the oil there has been some build up in my hair.
Tonight I did a "bali oil restorative hair treatment" by live clean, which, as far as I can tell has no cones nor any sulphates (it also 98% plant derived). I then used baking soda and ACV rinse and oh my god :pukeleft: IT WAS AWFUL.
The baking soda, I could actually feel it yanking my hair and damaging it. What I did was put it in, then let it sit for one minute and then scrubbed it out, I pored my hair down with the ACV and my hair still felt so awful I had to use shampoo twice to just get my hair feeling sort of normal and not so greasy again.
I think the mask I used might have caused some of the yanking and pulling, so I am willing to try using the baking soda and ACV one more time. I have a few questions though:
1. If I use the baking soda and ACV once a week will that prevent cone build up? (the only cones are cyclomethicone and dimethicone)
2. I have 2c hair, are there any other 2cs out there who find the baking soda works for them?
3. When I don't use the baking soda and ACV should I still rinse my hair with conditioner? Maybe a cone free one? Any recommendations?
4. I work out a lot, at least once a day, will that effect the method?
5. Will I stink? ACV is awful!
Thanks so much guys, I know I have a lot of questions, I just want nice hair (:
Tonight I did a "bali oil restorative hair treatment" by live clean, which, as far as I can tell has no cones nor any sulphates (it also 98% plant derived). I then used baking soda and ACV rinse and oh my god :pukeleft: IT WAS AWFUL.
The baking soda, I could actually feel it yanking my hair and damaging it. What I did was put it in, then let it sit for one minute and then scrubbed it out, I pored my hair down with the ACV and my hair still felt so awful I had to use shampoo twice to just get my hair feeling sort of normal and not so greasy again.
I think the mask I used might have caused some of the yanking and pulling, so I am willing to try using the baking soda and ACV one more time. I have a few questions though:
1. If I use the baking soda and ACV once a week will that prevent cone build up? (the only cones are cyclomethicone and dimethicone)
2. I have 2c hair, are there any other 2cs out there who find the baking soda works for them?
3. When I don't use the baking soda and ACV should I still rinse my hair with conditioner? Maybe a cone free one? Any recommendations?
4. I work out a lot, at least once a day, will that effect the method?
5. Will I stink? ACV is awful!
Thanks so much guys, I know I have a lot of questions, I just want nice hair (:
0
Comments
Here is the ingredient deck for the MoroccanOil:
Cyclopentasiloxane, dimethicone, cyclomethicone, argania spinosa, kernel oil (argan oil), linseed (linum uitatissimum) extract, fragrance, D&C yellow-11, D&C Red-17
Everything bolded is a cone. The first 3 ingredients (basically the bulk of what the product is).
Here is the Shine Spray:
Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone, Argania Spinoza Kernel Oil, Fragrance (Supplement), Wheat (Triticum Vulgare) Germ Oil, Panthenol, D&C Red no.17, D&C Yellow no.11.
Again, cone city!
With all of the oils in the Lush product and the Bali product it is no wonder you have build up! Unless you are washing with a pretty hefty cleanser you are not removing all the cones and oils. No conditioner cleanse will get that all off.
ACV rinse will help but if you really want to be CG, I'd dump all the cone laden products that are tricking you into believing that your hair is conditioned, smoothed and shiny.
2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
CG since 7/1/2010
Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
Condition: DevaCurl OC
LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
doing a no-poo wont remove cones. You need to use a sulfate shampoo. if your hair felt oily after doing the no-poo. It was because of the cone laden products, not the baking soda or acv.
as far as the smell, remember not to use 100% acv, I do a 50/50 acv/water mix. i then put in my leave in. i have no acv smell. put i like the smell so it wouldnt bother me anyway.
Good luck!
I am CG to the bone (NO sulfates and NO silicones-even water-soluble ones) and I cleanse with a cone and sulfate free lowpoo. That is good news if you need more than conditioner to cleanse.
And you will if you wish to continue with these products with which you have had success.
2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
CG since 7/1/2010
Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
Condition: DevaCurl OC
LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
Sorry to be confusing.
I am saying that you will need a pretty intense cleanser to remove all the oils and cones that you are using to avoid build up. The products that you are using make you NON-CG.
What I meant in the next post is that I do not use cones of any kind but I cannot conditioner cleanse. I use a sulfate and cone free shampoo "lowpoo" and that still makes me "CG".
If you wish to go fully CG, you will need to start with a sulfate shampoo (NO cones in it) and then use styling products without cones.
There is no law about being CG, however. If you enjoy the products that you currently use, you'll just not be able to avoid build up with conditioner cleansing.
2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
CG since 7/1/2010
Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
Condition: DevaCurl OC
LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
After I do a "final-shampoo" how should I use the baking soda and acv? I've heard a lot of different things. And will this work for people who work out a lot? Like, sometimes twice a day?
3a/f/iii
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
If you use products with silicones in them (like most products have) you would need to cleanse with an actual shampoo. You could probably get away with only shampooing every other, or every 2 days.
If you're not using a lot of heavy oils, and not using silicones, your not going to have a lot of buildup for dirt and bacteria to stick to, so using a sulfate shampoo is not necessary. You can water wash, or conditioner wash with a light conditioner, or use a sulfate free shampoo - scrubbing with fingers and friction is important.
I find that I don't get build up from amodimethicone, or dimethicone (if it's farther down on the list). I absolutely can not use cyclomethicone, or cyclopentasiloxane. No matter how much I think I want a product, as soon as I see those I put it back. And I use shampoo!
So you could mix up your routine as long as you follow those basic properties.
Using my iphone with my toe thumbs. There will be typos.
3a/f/iii
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: CJ Daily Fix, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: SS Caitlin's Conditioner, CJ Beauticurls Strengthening
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier,Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
low poo- washing your hair using conditioner. usually a bit water down or gentle shampoo.
if you use anything with cones, you have to use a sulfate shampoo to remove them.
removing build up, doing no poo or low poo is usually good enough.
no-poo or loo poo will remove cones.
I don't do BS (though I've been tempted lately to try) but I do ACVs all the time and my hair loves them. IMO, one does not need to always do a BS scrub in order to do an ACV. I dilute my ACV basically 1:16, though of course I don't actually measure it. It's roughly 1TB to 1c of water. I use a large mug, and pour in about 1 1/2 TBS.
So my ACV routine is about once a week, and goes:
low poo
ACV
DT
rinse with cold water
LI
stylers
I am thinking of replacing the low poo with the BS scrub just to see if my hair likes it though. I don't use cones in my stylers, so I don't really have a problem with build up (I'm hoping to phase out the CIAB, which does have a water soluble cone, if I can find something that is cheaper to replace it with), but I do work out and like to get my sweaty scalp clean.
3b. fine & thick, coarse, dry, medium porosity. Sucks up product and loves ACVs! FSG is my HG!
Currently using:
Low Poo: TJ's Refresh No Poo: CoWash w/VO-5; Sonoma Soap Company sulfate-free poo
RO: Yes to Cuc; SSC Lavender Condish; Sally GVP LI: Donna Marie Miracle D&C
Style: FSG w/Aussie Instant Freeze & CIAB