Which demi-perm. color is the most gentle?

musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
I have been using Redken’s Shades EQ Equalizing Conditioning Color Gloss demi-perm. product for about 5 or 6 years. At a recent appointment, my stylist left the color on too long (and used heat for 20 minutes, per my request). My hair was fried, and I lost a lot of curl. (The curl has not come back, even two months later.) I know that I can’t completely blame the Redken for this, but it got me wondering about gentle products for demi-perm. color.

I’ve had two stylists recommend Matrix Color Sync Demi-Permanent Creme Color. Does anyone have any experience with this? Even better, does anyone have experience with this compared to the Redken Shades EQ?

Any other suggestions for a very gentle demi-perm. color that (preferably) does not require heat?

My hair is about 25% gray in the crown, and the rest is about 10-20% gray. I am just trying to maintain a natural-looking medium ash brown.

Thanks for any responses! :)

ETA: Per DH, hair is 25% gray in the crown, and the rest is about 5% gray.

~Suzanne
Hair type: 2A/3A; soft, fine, thin
Products: Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo;
Robert Craig color

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  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,573Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Have you checked out Color by Robert Craig? It is more gentle than Shades EQ, etc because it does not contain peroxide like they do.

    http://www.robertcraig.com/php/index.php?location=haircolor

    It does not require heat to work and my hair is still healthy after 10+ yrs of use! :)
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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    Thanks, CurliLocks!

    Does the RC Color leave a line of demarcation or visible roots of any kind? I don’t have a lot of gray (yet), so I’m going for more of a natural look that blends the gray.

    Also, I’m looking for a medium ash brown shade, and I didn’t see that listed in their haircolor swatches (thanks for the link).

    Thanks again for your help! :)
    Hair type: 2A/3A; soft, fine, thin
    Products: Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo;
    Robert Craig color
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,573Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    musicat wrote:
    Thanks, CurliLocks!

    Does the RC Color leave a line of demarcation or visible roots of any kind? I don’t have a lot of gray (yet), so I’m going for more of a natural look that blends the gray.

    Also, I’m looking for a medium ash brown shade, and I didn’t see that listed in their haircolor swatches (thanks for the link).

    Thanks again for your help! :)

    The RC Color will not lift, so it won't lighten hair if that's what you need. But if you just want to blend gray, it's great! I suggest choosing a color about 2-3 shades lighter than your hair as they tend to grab darker on curly hair, esp porous.

    I don't get a visible line of color except for the gray roots. :oops: The rest, you can't even tell when it's growing out.

    Which swatch is closest to your color? If you have pics I might be able to suggest a color for you. :)
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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    Thanks again for your reply.

    I’m not looking to lift color or to lighten my hair. I just want to maintain (in a natural-looking way) my medium ash brown shade, and to blend the gray (again, in a natural-looking way).

    I generally go to a stylist about once every three months for color because I’m pretty lame when it comes to stuff like this. That’s why I’ve been using the Redken Shades EQ (a “professional” product, I’m told) for a number of years. And, that’s also why I’m curious about the Matrix Color Sync—a couple of stylists have recommended it to me.

    I will definitely keep the RC Color in mind. I like that it has no ammonia or peroxide. I tried Natural Instincts many years ago, but it turned my hair brassy, so I didn’t go back to it. If I try RC Color, I will definitely take your suggestions regarding choosing a color.

    As for the swatches, I suppose that the Ash Brown would be closest in terms of color family, but it would probably be too dark for me. I’m sorry that I don’t have any pics right now (going through a medical crisis with my mom).

    Thanks again for all your help and suggestions! :)
    Hair type: 2A/3A; soft, fine, thin
    Products: Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo;
    Robert Craig color
  • CurliLocksCurliLocks Posts: 10,573Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Ah, I see. Yes, home coloring can be tricky unless you enlist the help of a friend/SO. :)

    I don't know if any of these are near you, but there are actually a few salons in CA that use RC Color:

    http://www.robertcraig.com/php/index.php?location=haircolorists

    Good luck with whichever product you use. Having to cover these pesky grays is a pain. :evil:
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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    Thanks again for your help, CurliLocks! :)

    I checked out the link to the RC salon list, but unfortunately the ones listed in CA aren’t close to me.

    Yup, the grays are not fun, but I appreciate your help! I will definitely keep RC in mind if I ever get brave enough to do the home-color thing.

    So, does anyone else have any experience with Redken Shades EQ vs. Matrix Color Sync in terms of gentleness? Any other gentle demi-perm. colors?

    TIA!
    Hair type: 2A/3A; soft, fine, thin
    Products: Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo;
    Robert Craig color
  • UCurlGirlUCurlGirl Posts: 97Registered Users
    Hi,

    I'd also like to recommend the Clairol Colorglosses. If you do a board search, you'll come up with lots of info, and lots of people like them. I use the 2N (natural dark brown) about every 3 months and love it, but it has a peroxide developer. It's supposedly the equivalent of the Redken shades, but better imho, and can be found at Sally's.

    HTH...
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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    Thanks for your reply, UCurlGirl! I’ll check out those Clairol Colorglosses next time I’m at Sally’s.... :)
    Hair type: 2A/3A; soft, fine, thin
    Products: Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo;
    Robert Craig color
  • foxycus02foxycus02 Posts: 918Registered Users
    Well I used Redken shades EQ to try and brighten my med brown hair. Instead my hair came out almost jet black. With that said I then decided to visit a hair dresser who pulled out some highlights and BLEACHED some strands and fried them. I was so distraught, I cried at the salon. I looked like a zebra. I have very kinky tight curls and they were sticking up straight. I was horrified. Anyway one of the hairdressers came up to me and said shed try and fix it. She proceeded to apply colorsync to make the highlights a bit darker. She said she chose matrix because it has no peroxide and wont damage my hair any further. 3 weeks later the color has remained in the streaks and I like it. Ill probably look for it and apply a refresher in a couple of weeks.

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  • musicatmusicat Posts: 19Registered Users
    Hi, foxycus02:

    Thanks so much for sharing your story. I’m sorry that you had to go through such a stressful coloring experience. :( I can definitely relate to the part about your hair getting fried. I would have been horrified, too, if my curls (not as tight as yours) were sticking straight up! :shock:

    I’m happy to hear that the Matrix Colorsync has no peroxide, and it must be pretty gentle if it was chosen by the hairdresser to fix your color. I’m also happy to hear that you’re liking the results and will be using it again. I hope that your hair continues to heal and recover.

    I think I am going to try the Matrix for my next color. I’ve had two stylists recommend it recently, even though I’d been using the Redken for a number of years. I just kind of got soured on the Redken after my last experience with it.

    Thanks again for sharing your experience! It was very helpful to me. :)
    Hair type: 2A/3A; soft, fine, thin
    Products: Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo;
    Robert Craig color
  • jillipoojillipoo Posts: 3,795Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I know this is an old post, but I was curious to see whether Matrix Color Sync had ever come up in these discussions, and when I searched, I found it had!

    After trying to deal with Robert Craig hair color and not being very happy with the trial-and-error color selection process, I mentioned to my stylist that I wanted to use something less lethal than the Matrix color she's been using on my hair for years. (I have a lot of gray to cover.) She recommended Matrix ColorSync, which is semi-permanent but since I don't use shampoo of any kind, we figured it would stay in my hair pretty well. She also told me that it contains a very low-ammonia formulation, and that sounded good to me.

    So, I let her use it on me and now, three weeks later, it looks pretty much the same as permanent used to. My roots are showing but the color that was applied still looks decent. (Plus, I liked that it didn't burn my head or make my eyes water like permanent color did! That's gotta count for something.)

    I think I'm going to stick with ColorSync, but I wanted to see whether any of you had any information or experience with this line yourselves. Also, am I really doing my hair any significant favors by using this or am I just deluding myself?
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