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Why you should never let anyone "texturize" your hair (with pix)

LahomajayneLahomajayne Posts: 127Registered Users
As a person with wavy or very fine curly hair, you can sometimes get away with getting a "straight" hair cut - you know the drill, wash, condition, comb out straight pull tight and hack away - however, one thing you should never let them do is use a razor, point cut, or use thinning shears on your hair. Why? all of these methods can leave your hair prone to frizzies and split ends, but in the case of point cutting and thinning shears - there is another reason. In the layer where the thinning is done you will have serious issues with having stringy curls/wave formation and lots of frizz.
Picture a curl "clump" then imagine taking a thinning shear to that - that clump will never be a clump again, each bit of that clump will be its own "stringlet" instead of a ringlet or a straight frizzy bit that lays on top of your wave. If your hair is very fine like mine, each hair on its own, while having a curl pattern, requires the support of the other hairs in its clump to help support the curl, too few hairs in a clump and its just starts to look messy...you know that look!
So the next time you go to the salon for a cut my wavy comrades, do not allow the stylist to point cut, razor or thin out your hair!

Pictures attached!
Pictures 1 and 2- "stringlets" that can't find their companion hairs for support or to form clumps

Picture 3 - hair that has not been razored or thinned - notice the size of the clumps in this hair, and the smooth surface of the curls.

Picture 4 - the hair right next to that in picture 3 that was hacked with thinning shears. Notice the small size of the clumps - dare I even call them that, they are stringlets.

I know a lot of you may already know this stuff - but for those of you who may be new wavies (and wavies are the most at risk of having a stylist try to do this to you because they might consider you to have "straight" hair) I thought this might be educational :)

So, if you cannot find/afford to go to a curly hair specialist, make sure that your stylist cuts with sharp scissors only and doesn't do things to "add volume" or "reduce bulk" in your hair! It will just make you a frizzy mess!
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    I'm convinced that razor cuts (I used to ask my stylist to razor it even more) were a huge contributer to my 1/4 inch of split ends every 2 months pre CG.
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    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
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  • wavyonewavyone Posts: 219Registered Users
    That's my hair exactly (always had it thinned, up until about May of this year). It improved a little bit with my last cut, which was blunt ends only. But I guess I just have to grow out that part for it to look any better.:(
    2a or b, highlighted, fine hair but lots of it
    Modified CG since 6/11

    Low Poo: CJ Daily Fix
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    Rinse Out: CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner or Deva One C
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    Stylers: Deva Heaven in Hair as a Leave-in, followed by Arc Angel
    SOTC: CJ CIAB
  • Lucky CharmLucky Charm Posts: 1,250Registered Users
    I couldnt agree more. My cut before my last one I got thinned AND razored even though I said not to. My thick wirey strands stuck straight out. My clumps couldnt clump and it was just BAD. I went back to my trusty stylist (why I strayed, I just dont know!) who does a GREAT wet cut. She was horrified at my previous cut and the way I was treated. We evened it out as much as possible,but its still going to take a while to grow everything out to a workable length.
    - 2C - Coarse Canopy & med/fine underlayers
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    - plopping, diffusing, and clipping the roots
  • Kath_MichelleKath_Michelle Posts: 3Registered Users
    I wish I read this thread before I tried out a new stylist :( She "texturized" my hair by cutting into each clump of curl to create more volume but now it's a frizzy mess! Plus, I'm noticing A LOT of split ends only a couple weeks after the cut. I don't use heat, have been CG since April and do a DT and a PT at least once a week so there's no other reason for what's going on with my hair. Every curly girl should read this!!
    3A/3B Modified Curly Girl Method since 4.8.13

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    RO: Shea Moisture Restorative Conditioner
    LI: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie, Shea Moisture Thickening Growth Milk
    Style: JessiCurl Rockin' Ringlets & Confident Coils
    *Almond oil as a sealant
  • peachespeachespeachespeaches Posts: 44Registered Users
    Every stylist I've ever been to uses this on my hair- even my favorite one. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should tell my stylist to cut my hair with? I have big, wavy hair and it tends to bulk up, especially now that I have a pixie. What would she use to get rid of the bulk? I hate having a choppy hair cut!
  • purdue5887purdue5887 Posts: 4Registered Users
    Thanks for the bump, I had no idea about this!
    2a, Fine, High Density

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    Fails: AG ReCoil, AG Beach Bomb, Deva Angell, Aquage Defining Gel, Kerastase Oleo Relax Curl Creme.
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

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  • itsjustlucitsjustluc Posts: 9Registered Users
    Thank you so much for taking the time to explain and photograph the problem with these techniques on wavy hair. Everyone who has cut my hair has used either texturizing shears or a razor, even when I tell them I wear it wavy. I've always been pretty happy with my hair despite this. I recently tried a new stylist and talked about this with her and she agreed that razors/texturizers were not good for my hair. She used a different technique to reduce some of the bulk and I am happier than ever with my hair. I never thought ditching these techniques would make much of a difference. I had the same problems as the OP and now they're essentially gone.
    2B, medium/normal across the board

    No HGs yet, but currently toying with:
    Lo-Poo: AG Smoooth Argan Shampoo
    RO: Matrix Sleek (this is an old formula that somehow--magically--is cone free), AG Smoooth Argan Conditioner
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    Styling: mineral oil (to seal against humidity), LA Looks Sport Gel, FSG
  • heyhoheyho Posts: 55Registered Users
    itsjustluc wrote: »
    I recently tried a new stylist and talked about this with her and she agreed that razors/texturizers were not good for my hair. She used a different technique to reduce some of the bulk and I am happier than ever with my hair.

    What was the technique she used?
  • chupiechupie Posts: 5,270Registered Users Curl Neophyte
  • itsjustlucitsjustluc Posts: 9Registered Users
    Eek! I knew someone would ask and, unfortunately I don't know what it's called. She basically held her shears vertical, took sections of hair, and slid the open shears down them. That's a terrible description--I'll be getting my haircut in August and I can find out more then. Stay tuned? :)
    2B, medium/normal across the board

    No HGs yet, but currently toying with:
    Lo-Poo: AG Smoooth Argan Shampoo
    RO: Matrix Sleek (this is an old formula that somehow--magically--is cone free), AG Smoooth Argan Conditioner
    LI: VO5 Silky Experiences Island Coconut, SM C&H Milk
    Styling: mineral oil (to seal against humidity), LA Looks Sport Gel, FSG
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    Please let me add my head to the wealth of general knowledge on why wavies and curlies alike should NEVER get a thinning-shear cut.

    This sad situation was 8 months (yes 8 months) and 3 "normal" haircuts after my thinning shear haircut. My stylist had thinned my hair up to my eyes pretty much.... so you can imagine how long it's taking to grow out. I was a big frizzball for months and months and here it is growing out but you can see how the bottom is especially sad. (The thinning layer actually goes higher up but the bottom looks especially apparent.)

    This was 2 months ago. I've had another haircut since and it has grown out a little bit but it's still apparent, particularly when I go for "clumpy" styles.

    Hopefully in another 6 months my thinned layer will reach the rest of my layers.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

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  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    itsjustluc wrote: »
    Eek! I knew someone would ask and, unfortunately I don't know what it's called. She basically held her shears vertical, took sections of hair, and slid the open shears down them. That's a terrible description--I'll be getting my haircut in August and I can find out more then. Stay tuned? :)

    This sounds like it could be giving you more split ends?

    I always find the concept of debulking via scissors/thinning shears very bizarre. Do you know what debulks my hair like crazy? Clumping/definition and having moisturized hair (rich leave-ins etc.) Seriously, clumpy looks like I have 1/2 the density I do when my hair is loose-waves. That's what annoys me... I love big hair and I'm always trying to pump more air in it to make it look more voluminous. To me it's very easy to lose volume/bulk (I have medium density).
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • frankcescafrankcesca Posts: 26Registered Users
    ARRRRGH! I had a BC last month, almost a year after a Deva cut, and the way she diffused it was so horrible (bouncing the dryer up and down and raking her fingers through my roots the entire time) that I came out with the world's worst/80's-est frizz helmet. I freaked out and begged her to USE the thinning shears! Even she asked me twice, especially on dry hair, but I insisted I looked like a Tannenbaum and then she muttered, "Well, you certainly have enough hair" and passive-aggressively went to town. RRRRRRIIIIIIIIIPPPP. I've heard that hair stylists in Berlin in general are morally opposed to cutting layers, and in my moment of panic I didn't think to ask her for layers instead of thinning it. Or just running away before it could get worse.

    I know, I know, I should have come home and re-washed it and seen what it would do when ACTUALLY styled before I asked her to lay another finger on it. But the panic talked. And now I get to grow out stick-outies for the next year or two, just like some of you. Plus, I've got a mushroom head (the different curls fall 2-5 inches under my chin) and don't know if I should go somewhere else to see what's improvable, or if another cut will just make it worse. The bad one was already supposed to be Europe's answer to Deva/Ouidad (CurlSys) so I have no idea where to turn now. Every place that mentions curls has mixed curly reviews. Guess it's time to try (gulp!) trimming myself?

    Question:
    I had that thing itsjustluc was talking about a few times - they would take a section, twist it around til it was twisted firmly, then either run the shears down the outside or make little snips with the tip of the shears as they moved down. I guess that's a lot better than having the thinning shears rip through everything willy-nilly?
    2c, med-coarse, dense, high-med elasticity and still working out my porosity. Living in hard-water Germany.

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  • mustangbunnymustangbunny Posts: 1,033Registered Users
    wavydaze wrote: »
    Please let me add my head to the wealth of general knowledge on why wavies and curlies alike should NEVER get a thinning-shear cut.

    This sad situation was 8 months (yes 8 months) and 3 "normal" haircuts after my thinning shear haircut. My stylist had thinned my hair up to my eyes pretty much.... so you can imagine how long it's taking to grow out. I was a big frizzball for months and months and here it is growing out but you can see how the bottom is especially sad. (The thinning layer actually goes higher up but the bottom looks especially apparent.)

    This was 2 months ago. I've had another haircut since and it has grown out a little bit but it's still apparent, particularly when I go for "clumpy" styles.

    Hopefully in another 6 months my thinned layer will reach the rest of my layers.

    OMG your curls are still so incredibly gorgeous, even with the cut you didn't like. I'm jealous. I'm only a month CG and rockin some limp ass waves so far.


    Low-poo: Looking for a new one.
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    Leave in: Giovanni Direct Leave In
    PT: My hair needs very little. I use Suave Naturals Coconut when I need a little bit and follow up with a moisturizing conditioner.
    Styler: Giovanni LA

    Go Red Wings!
    :hockey:

  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,654Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    wavydaze, I think your hair looks beautiful in that pic. Doesn't look like you have any hair probs at all to me! :)
    Location: Texas
    Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
    CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Desert Essence Coconut, Oribe Silverati
    Leave-ins: Curl Junkie Beauti-Curls, KCKT, cno overnight
    Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG, CJ Pattern Pusha
    DT: Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    :love7: That's very nice of you to say mustangbunny and Spiralli! It's always nice to hear compliments! I do think it looked better in the picture than in real life but thank you anyway!
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • wavydazewavydaze Posts: 2,061Registered Users
    I'm only a month CG and rockin some limp ass waves so far.

    Do you have fine hair? I have fine hair and it took me a while into CG to realize how much protein my hair needed/liked. Protein gives me volume.
    2bc/ f / ii. low porosity roots + normal-high porosity shaft where bleached. normal elasticity.

    Currently using:
    Poo: Earthbath Oatmeal & Aloe
    RO: V05 Kiwi Lime
    LI: CJ Smoothing Lotion
    Styler: UFD CM, CJ PP
    PT: CJ Repair Me

    :thumright: hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
    :angry8: guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
    Neutral on cones.

    iherb discount code: CFN646
  • Chloe_s_MomChloe_s_Mom Posts: 48Registered Users
    I cringed terribly when I read about opening the scissors and sliding them down the hair - isn't that essentially like using a razor?

    I had grown my hair out for a year plus, it was awesome, thick, curly. Then I got a horrible hair cut where the stylist did exactly that. Essentially, she cut out my curls. Completely. My hair looked and felt thin, limp. I then had to chop it from bra length to shoulder, then to chin.

    My current stylist loves those darn thinning shears, and while it worked great on my piece-y pixie, it doesn't do me any favours otherwise.

    She's a curly head too, but had short hair, and very thick, so I doubt that it harms her own hair/styles.

    I have no idea why to say to her, instead, I've just not gone for a hair cut in a year.....sigh....
    Growing out a pixie (last big cut July 2012)
    3a? 3b? Fine, dense. Porous.
    Finally sulfate free. Avoiding silicones.
  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,654Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I would say something like you already stated: please don't use thinning shears, razors, or slide scissors down length of my hair. Thins it too much and I end up with too many split ends and breakage. I really do not want any of that and I will not pay for my cut if any of that happens. Are you okay with that?

    Then it will take courage to get up and talk to the manager and walk out if your wishes aren't adhered to.
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    Leave-ins: Curl Junkie Beauti-Curls, KCKT, cno overnight
    Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG, CJ Pattern Pusha
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  • mustangbunnymustangbunny Posts: 1,033Registered Users
    wavydaze wrote: »
    I'm only a month CG and rockin some limp ass waves so far.

    Do you have fine hair? I have fine hair and it took me a while into CG to realize how much protein my hair needed/liked. Protein gives me volume.

    I do believe my hair is fine, and it does seem to really love protein. It wants protein almost every day. I do a PT every few days but I was thinking of picking up some Aubrey Organics conditioner to help out with that.

    I've dyed and highlighted my hair many times and it seems like that has made some of my hair very very fine. On my highlights I can see the hair get thinner where the bleached part begins. So lesson learned there, never doing that again. That hair also refuses to curl, so it looks a bit silly, all these wavy bits with a straighty bit here and there. But it's so much easier to do in the mornings that I just don't even care if I look a little silly.


    Low-poo: Looking for a new one.
    Condish: V05 Tea Therapy, Body Shop Banana
    Leave in: Giovanni Direct Leave In
    PT: My hair needs very little. I use Suave Naturals Coconut when I need a little bit and follow up with a moisturizing conditioner.
    Styler: Giovanni LA

    Go Red Wings!
    :hockey:

  • rhosyn_durhosyn_du Posts: 99Registered Users
    This is really interesting. I agree wholeheartedly about razoring, but I actually really like what thinning shears just on the last 3"-4" do for my curls.

    I've got medium texture 2b waves on my top canopy and super-fine 3a/b cherub curls at my temples and nape, and thinning shears on the ends of my waves makes each wave taper to a cute little point the way my cherub curls naturally do, making my whole head look more uniform in texture. It's never caused any clumping issues for me.

    Then again, I've never experienced any ripping with thinning shears and can't figure out how or why they'd cause split ends, so maybe I'm thinking of a different kind of thinning shears than you guys are talking about?
    2c, fine/medium with a few coarse grays, medium porosity, normal elasticity, protein-sensitive

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    Low-Poo: L'Oreal EverCurl Shampoo
    RO: L'Oreal EverCurl Conditioner
    LOC: KCKT,
    Nightblooming Triple Moon Hair Anointing Oil, & Nightblooming Panacea or Freya Hair Salve
    Styling: Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel, Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Finishing Paste
  • heyhoheyho Posts: 55Registered Users
    itsjustluc wrote: »
    Eek! I knew someone would ask and, unfortunately I don't know what it's called. She basically held her shears vertical, took sections of hair, and slid the open shears down them. That's a terrible description--I'll be getting my haircut in August and I can find out more then. Stay tuned? :)

    Just came across this:

    Delightfully Tacky: Q + A // how to cut your own hair

    and it reminded me of this description.
  • yakottayakotta Posts: 40Registered Users
    Glad I found this. The last time I had a haircut I still had a pixie, and razoring always made it look so cute. I wouldn't have blinked twice if a stylist used it on me now.
  • bringingcurliesback?bringingcurliesback? Posts: 1,307Registered Users
    Razors are terrible because they slice your hair at an angle we curlies are best with blunt cuts. In other words watch the way your stylist angles his or her shears properly.
    Before I started wearing my hair exclusively naturallycurly I used to get razor cuts (picture that scene mullet look/short layers at the topped with a long thinned out mass at the bottom) and I loved it I'm not going to lie but my tastes have come a long way since then.thankyou for posting this as I was going to start letting stylists do what they want but now I know better. I'd much rather just keep my bob at the moment by asking for a simple straight across cut and of course the stylist awarded me with long layers. Thanks eyeroll* I'll never understand some of them. I need me a local curl whisperer.

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  • yakottayakotta Posts: 40Registered Users
    What about the thing where a stylist twists your hair and then kind of cuts along the twist to thin that out? My stylist did that all the time on my short hair (granted it was too short to curl, sooooo). Is that a no-no all around, or only if done at an angle?
  • mustangbunnymustangbunny Posts: 1,033Registered Users
    (picture that scene mullet look/short layers at the topped with a long thinned out mass at the bottom)

    I just love this sentence.


    Low-poo: Looking for a new one.
    Condish: V05 Tea Therapy, Body Shop Banana
    Leave in: Giovanni Direct Leave In
    PT: My hair needs very little. I use Suave Naturals Coconut when I need a little bit and follow up with a moisturizing conditioner.
    Styler: Giovanni LA

    Go Red Wings!
    :hockey:

  • sixelamysixelamy Posts: 4,156Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I feel this thread!! The reason my hair is so short is because someone butchered mine with thinning shears as well, without even asking!!! I was SO PISSED!!

    On straight hair it's lovely, not so much on curly. I really wanted to give my feedback to the stylist, but it would've come out all sorts of wrong and rude. Straight cut all the way! ...which is what I told the freaking stylist I wanted!

    The twisting thing, probably not the best idea, and it could give you split ends pretty easily. My old neighbor did this when I had my really short pixie cut. Loved it, but my hair was also straight then. Couldn't imagine it on curly hair.
    2c-3a - med-coarse - normal-high porosity - high density
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    STYLER: CJ Curl Queen
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  • KauaiMareCurlKauaiMareCurl Posts: 317Registered Users
    A year later, slowly but surely, the texturizing with thinning shears debacle has almost grown out on my almost waist length hair. It was done pre-CG and before I found this forum. My layers are also slowly coming along, the shortest layer is collar bone length. Been CG almost a year and been growing out the layers and guess what? I don't have the triangle or pyramid effect anymore. Pre-CG, I needed layers and more layers and struggled with the pyramid hair look. So, I am growing all of it out, and will keep subtle layers as done by the Ouidad stylist I found. Finally, I can also go 4-5 months between trims, whoo hoo
  • WeathercurlWeathercurl Posts: 228Registered Users
    Last December I went to a woman who allegedly specialized in cutting curly hair. She recommended something called a Helix cut to "bring out the curl" and said she preferred it over a Deva cut (which she was trained to do). I agreed, and she proceeded to take her shears, twist sections of hair and slide the blade down the length of the twist. She did my entire head. My hair was a horrible, stringy mess. I've trimmed a good 6 inches or more off to undo the damage. My hair is slowly recovering but it'll take another year before all the layering is gone, unless I do a big chop, which I have resisted so far. So - texturizing, razors, thinning - I say NOOOOO!!!!!! Never again.
    2b/2c ( weather permitting - 3a), fine texture but lots of it, colored and highlights, BSL.
    Experimenting w CG since Oct 2012

    Current rotation:
    cowash= TN
    AG Gel Mousse, LA Gel,
    DT = Coconut oil (love)
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