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The Ask Phoenix thread

ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
As everyone knows, our own Phoenix is a makeup artist of great skill. I always have a million questions for her, so I got her permission to start a thread in case others want a professional opinion, too.

Here's question #1: how would you apply eyeliner or e/s in the case of large but close-set eyes? Would you skip liner altogether?

#2: What is lipliner really meant to do?
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Neat thread! Thanks, Ninj!
    Here's question #1: how would you apply eyeliner or e/s in the case of large but close-set eyes? Would you skip liner altogether?
    Would you like to make your eyes look smaller/more wide-set? To make them look wider-set, concentrate lighter e/s colors on the inner part of your lids, closest to the nose, and use darker colors on the outer corners. Take a Q-tip and apply a shimmery, light colored shadow to the very inner corners of your eyes to really brighten the area.

    You can also offset close-set eyes by widening the space between your eyebrows. Pluck (or wax, etc) a few hairs from the front of your brows. This will "open up" the area and give the illusion of wider-set eyes.

    To deemphasize large eyes (if that's what you'd like to do), line them all around with your pencil, making the line ever so slightly thicker and darker as you get to the outer corners. You can use shadow for this too. You can also line the waterline (inner rim) of your lower lashes using pencil.
    #2: What is lipliner really meant to do?
    It's supposed to help prevent lipstick from feathering. But if you have oily skin or plan on wearing lip gloss, a primer applied underneath your liner and lip color(s) will help even more.
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Raises hand like Horshack. Oooh, oohh, ooh, oooh!attachment.php?attachmentid=166084&stc=1&d=1301723775

    1. When will you be in North Dakota so you can do my make-up? What's that? You probably won't make it here as long as you live. Awwww. Bummer.

    2. Where do I put my blush? I have a square face. Also any contouring tips for a square face. I attached a couple random pics. When taking pics my choices are either uncomfortable looking or faux middle aged model. I gave you one of each.:dontknow:

    3. For my oily, hooded, eyeshadow creasing eyelids, do you think the paint style primer (example: MAC paints and paint pots) would work better or the regular style primer (urban decay primer potion, two faced shadow insurance, etc.)? I have a good supply on hand, but I thought I'd ask while you are answering questions.

    Thanks in advance for your reply. Don't feel obligated to answer all my questions, because I'm sure you'll be inundated with tons of questions once people see this thread.
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    I apply blush under my cheekbones and up towards my temple. I'm not sure if I'm just being nuts or what. Is there a reason I like that?!

    I don't know my face shape. I always think it looks weird. My cheekbones are wider than my forehead, and I really can't tell if my forehead is wider than my jaw. I guess my hair is in my face so much that I don't know my own face shape.

    I have smallish eyes, not wide or close set (someone said I was center eyed?) and usually wear glasses, which adds to the smallness.u All I've figured out is that bold liner and liner on the waterline make my eyes look even smaller. Any tips for small eyes or glasses wearers?
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    pedaheh, I love your Horshack pic.

    Phoenix, I never thought of the eyebrow idea. I might try it. Also, can I wear the just the shimmer on the inside corners, if it's subtle?

    Regarding RCC's question, do all face shapes fall into the categories we already have, like square, round, oval, etc.?
  • kaybkayb Posts: 5,054Registered Users
    Do I have to apply foundation before I apply concealer? or can i use concealer by itself?
    I ain't thirsty. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but I don't want all of them, can I have some standards? Or do we just have to settle, for someone's who meh and will do.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    LOL @ Horshach
    pedaheh wrote: »

    2. Where do I put my blush? I have a square face. Also any contouring tips for a square face. I attached a couple random pics. When taking pics my choices are either uncomfortable looking or faux middle aged model. I gave you one of each.
    Wow, you're so pretty! Amazing features. And killer hair.

    Your face isn't exactly square IMO; it's somewhere between square and diamond shaped. Apply your blush on the apples of your cheeks (yes, every expert seems to rec this, but it works for squarish faces) and blend then apply a subtle shimmery highlight above your blush/below your eyes. This will really put the focus on the center of your face.

    To contour, use a tan color 2 shades darker than your skin tone. I’m thinking of Mac Tantone or Blunt. Use an angled brush to apply the color in a triangle shape under your cheekbones, sweep the color on your jaw and entire temple area too, as in this picture: face-contouring-199x300.jpg.

    3. For my oily, hooded, eyeshadow creasing eyelids, do you think the paint style primer (example: MAC paints and paint pots) would work better or the regular style primer (urban decay primer potion, two faced shadow insurance, etc.)? I have a good supply on hand, but I thought I'd ask while you are answering questions.
    MAC paints and paint pots crease on me. I think I returned the first Paint Pot I bought for that reason. I heard such raves about it that I decided to try again months later. UDPP was actually the first thing I tried that worked, almost unfailingly. Mark Kay Triple Action Eye Enhancer is (was?) also quite good. Too Faced also works well. I have very oily skin.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    I apply blush under my cheekbones and up towards my temple. I'm not sure if I'm just being nuts or what. Is there a reason I like that?!
    That's a good blush/contouring technique: the C shape! It's supposedly trendy on the runway now to apply blush in a C-shape but high on the cheekbones and on the temple. I've seen blush applied actually on the eye area.
    I don't know my face shape. I always think it looks weird. My cheekbones are wider than my forehead, and I really can't tell if my forehead is wider than my jaw. I guess my hair is in my face so much that I don't know my own face shape.
    To help determine your face shape, pull back your hair and look straight into a mirror. Use a marker or even lipstick to trace a line along the edge of your face. Try to stay very still or rest your face lightly on your fist to steady yourself. Now step back. This really helped me to know my face shape. That, or you could just post a pic. :)
    I have smallish eyes, not wide or close set (someone said I was center eyed?) and usually wear glasses, which adds to the smallness.u All I've figured out is that bold liner and liner on the waterline make my eyes look even smaller. Any tips for small eyes or glasses wearers?
    A quick trick is to line your lower waterline with a creamy white pencil. It widens the eyes very well. NYX cream shadowstick in Milk is a good one. But it is very soft, so apply lightly.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    pedaheh, I love your Horshack pic.

    Phoenix, I never thought of the eyebrow idea. I might try it. Also, can I wear the just the shimmer on the inside corners, if it's subtle?

    Regarding RCC's question, do all face shapes fall into the categories we already have, like square, round, oval, etc.?
    Absolutely. It's great for brightening the eyes.

    But I'm not sure what you mean about the face shapes.
    kayb wrote: »
    Do I have to apply foundation before I apply concealer? or can i use concealer by itself?
    You can definitely use concealer alone. No need for foundation unless you want to wear it.
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  • kaybkayb Posts: 5,054Registered Users
    Yay! Thanks Phoenix.
    I ain't thirsty. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but I don't want all of them, can I have some standards? Or do we just have to settle, for someone's who meh and will do.
    "
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users
    What a GREAT idea for a thread and thank you for being willing to take your time to help us.

    Off to ponder a question!!

    (I suspect it will be about aging eyes and eye shadow related. You know, not for me, but for a "friend".)
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    I apply blush under my cheekbones and up towards my temple. I'm not sure if I'm just being nuts or what. Is there a reason I like that?!
    That's a good blush/contouring technique: the C shape! It's supposedly trendy on the runway now to apply blush in a C-shape but high on the cheekbones and on the temple. I've seen blush applied actually on the eye area.
    I don't know my face shape. I always think it looks weird. My cheekbones are wider than my forehead, and I really can't tell if my forehead is wider than my jaw. I guess my hair is in my face so much that I don't know my own face shape.
    To help determine your face shape, pull back your hair and look straight into a mirror. Use a marker or even lipstick to trace a line along the edge of your face. Try to stay very still or rest your face lightly on your fist to steady yourself. Now step back. This really helped me to know my face shape. That, or you could just post a pic. :)
    I have smallish eyes, not wide or close set (someone said I was center eyed?) and usually wear glasses, which adds to the smallness.u All I've figured out is that bold liner and liner on the waterline make my eyes look even smaller. Any tips for small eyes or glasses wearers?
    A quick trick is to line your lower waterline with a creamy white pencil. It widens the eyes very well. NYX cream shadowstick in Milk is a good one. But it is very soft, so apply lightly.

    Shoot, I did something on point all on my own, lol. I just messed around, found that I liked it put on that way, and left it.

    Here's a hair-pulled-back no makeup pic.

    c6e4e21a-5ea3-76d9.jpg
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    RCC, do you ever darken your eyebrows, just a bit? I find that helps with "opening" the look of my eyes, which contrast with my fair brows.

    Nothing dramatic, just a little MAC eyebrow mascara, brushed through for a bit of color.

    P., what's your opinion? I may be wrong.
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Yes, I do since they're so pale. My wax lady dyes them also, but they're long overdue for that, lol.

    I have an Anastasia pencil that I like. I also used BE powder that I used with my prior shade of red.
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    I can't manage a pencil on my brows. Somehow I can't make the right kind of stroke.

    Powder works well for me, too. Dyeing is tough because if they come out too dark, I'm stuck. I have dark brown eyebrows in my high school graduation photo; they look glued on, or grease-painted, like I'm Groucho Marx.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    I apply blush under my cheekbones and up towards my temple. I'm not sure if I'm just being nuts or what. Is there a reason I like that?!
    That's a good blush/contouring technique: the C shape! It's supposedly trendy on the runway now to apply blush in a C-shape but high on the cheekbones and on the temple. I've seen blush applied actually on the eye area.

    To help determine your face shape, pull back your hair and look straight into a mirror. Use a marker or even lipstick to trace a line along the edge of your face. Try to stay very still or rest your face lightly on your fist to steady yourself. Now step back. This really helped me to know my face shape. That, or you could just post a pic. :)
    I have smallish eyes, not wide or close set (someone said I was center eyed?) and usually wear glasses, which adds to the smallness.u All I've figured out is that bold liner and liner on the waterline make my eyes look even smaller. Any tips for small eyes or glasses wearers?
    A quick trick is to line your lower waterline with a creamy white pencil. It widens the eyes very well. NYX cream shadowstick in Milk is a good one. But it is very soft, so apply lightly.

    Shoot, I did something on point all on my own, lol. I just messed around, found that I liked it put on that way, and left it.

    Here's a hair-pulled-back no makeup pic.

    c6e4e21a-5ea3-76d9.jpg
    Thanks for the pic! You have an oval face shape, which has the most options for wearing various makeup styles. E.g., you can wear your blush in virtually any shape you like.

    Re: tips for small eyes/glasses wearers, you don't seem to have small eyes to me. Do you normally wear undereye concealer? Curling your eyelashes opens up the eyes too.
    ninja dog wrote: »
    RCC, do you ever darken your eyebrows, just a bit? I find that helps with "opening" the look of my eyes, which contrast with my fair brows.

    Nothing dramatic, just a little MAC eyebrow mascara, brushed through for a bit of color.

    P., what's your opinion? I may be wrong.
    Filling in the brows will frame the face and define the eye area. I don't know if it work for everyone to open the look of their eyes, but different things do work for different people.
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  • sew and sewsew and sew Posts: 3,443Registered Users
    Can you recommend a good brow powder for ashy dark brown brows? I've been finding that what's offered for brunettes is too light, and what's offered for black hair is definitely too dark.
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  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,681Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Wish I was brave enough to post pics (have to learn how first!) as I think I need help with everything. Never been good with make-up and now I'm getting on a bit I think I need to get good with it!
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    LOL @ Horshach
    pedaheh wrote: »

    2. Where do I put my blush? I have a square face. Also any contouring tips for a square face. I attached a couple random pics. When taking pics my choices are either uncomfortable looking or faux middle aged model. I gave you one of each.
    Wow, you're so pretty! Amazing features. And killer hair.

    Your face isn't exactly square IMO; it's somewhere between square and diamond shaped. Apply your blush on the apples of your cheeks (yes, every expert seems to rec this, but it works for squarish faces) and blend then apply a subtle shimmery highlight above your blush/below your eyes. This will really put the focus on the center of your face.

    To contour, use a tan color 2 shades darker than your skin tone. I’m thinking of Mac Tantone or Blunt. Use an angled brush to apply the color in a triangle shape under your cheekbones, sweep the color on your jaw and entire temple area too, as in this picture: face-contouring-199x300.jpg.

    3. For my oily, hooded, eyeshadow creasing eyelids, do you think the paint style primer (example: MAC paints and paint pots) would work better or the regular style primer (urban decay primer potion, two faced shadow insurance, etc.)? I have a good supply on hand, but I thought I'd ask while you are answering questions.
    MAC paints and paint pots crease on me. I think I returned the first Paint Pot I bought for that reason. I heard such raves about it that I decided to try again months later. UDPP was actually the first thing I tried that worked, almost unfailingly. Mark Kay Triple Action Eye Enhancer is (was?) also quite good. Too Faced also works well. I have very oily skin.
    Thank you so much for the advice and thanks for the complements. The advice to try to keep the focus on the center of my face really helps me to know visually what I'm aiming for. I didn't know diamond was a face shape. But I think you spot on in saying I'm a cross between diamond and square. Now I can put on my blush and feel confident I actually did it right. I have a paint style primer now, but next time I'll try the other style. I may even have to get some before i run out of the other.:toothy3:

    One additional question. I put a slightly shimmery, slightly lighter concealer in my nasal labial folds to try to camouflage them. Good idea or bad plan? Youtube gurus don't have wrinkles, so they are no help at all. Oh and this question isn't for me. It is for Just a Jesus Chick's "friend".:laughing3: Just a Jesus chick and I have no wrinkles.

    Thanks again. This was all really helpful.
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  • nynaeve77nynaeve77 Posts: 7,135Registered Users
    Can you recommend a good brow powder for ashy dark brown brows? I've been finding that what's offered for brunettes is too light, and what's offered for black hair is definitely too dark.
    Obviously not Phoenix, but I use the Maybelline brow powder in dark brown. It's the perfect shade and my eyebrows are pretty dark.
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    guano:

    nynaeve, I like your siggy.

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    Thanks, ninja! It's something I say to my tea party friends often.
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  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    Phoenix wrote: »
    That's a good blush/contouring technique: the C shape! It's supposedly trendy on the runway now to apply blush in a C-shape but high on the cheekbones and on the temple. I've seen blush applied actually on the eye area.

    To help determine your face shape, pull back your hair and look straight into a mirror. Use a marker or even lipstick to trace a line along the edge of your face. Try to stay very still or rest your face lightly on your fist to steady yourself. Now step back. This really helped me to know my face shape. That, or you could just post a pic. :)

    A quick trick is to line your lower waterline with a creamy white pencil. It widens the eyes very well. NYX cream shadowstick in Milk is a good one. But it is very soft, so apply lightly.

    Shoot, I did something on point all on my own, lol. I just messed around, found that I liked it put on that way, and left it.

    Here's a hair-pulled-back no makeup pic.

    c6e4e21a-5ea3-76d9.jpg
    Thanks for the pic! You have an oval face shape, which has the most options for wearing various makeup styles. E.g., you can wear your blush in virtually any shape you like.

    Re: tips for small eyes/glasses wearers, you don't seem to have small eyes to me. Do you normally wear undereye concealer? Curling your eyelashes opens up the eyes too.
    ninja dog wrote: »
    RCC, do you ever darken your eyebrows, just a bit? I find that helps with "opening" the look of my eyes, which contrast with my fair brows.

    Nothing dramatic, just a little MAC eyebrow mascara, brushed through for a bit of color.

    P., what's your opinion? I may be wrong.
    Filling in the brows will frame the face and define the eye area. I don't know if it work for everyone to open the look of their eyes, but different things do work for different people.

    Whether or not I wear concealer under my eyes depends on the season. Ragweed is still active right now, so I wear it. Allergy times really enhance those circles.

    You have a point. My eyes don't look as little in that pic as they do in my mind. Weird.

    They look little when I smile, but I guess that's more normal.

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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    She looks so like you, RCC.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Starmie wrote: »
    Wish I was brave enough to post pics (have to learn how first!) as I think I need help with everything. Never been good with make-up and now I'm getting on a bit I think I need to get good with it!
    PM me a pic and your questions if you like!
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    Can you recommend a good brow powder for ashy dark brown brows? I've been finding that what's offered for brunettes is too light, and what's offered for black hair is definitely too dark.
    Obviously not Phoenix, but I use the Maybelline brow powder in dark brown. It's the perfect shade and my eyebrows are pretty dark.
    lol, this is what I was going to rec!

    Also Ardell Brow Palette in Medium Brown, and Ben Nye pressed e/s powder in Twilight Sable. Ardell is sold in Sally's and other places. But Ben Nye is mainly sold only or in makeup/theatre supply shops.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    Whether or not I wear concealer under my eyes depends on the season. Ragweed is still active right now, so I wear it. Allergy times really enhance those circles.
    Concealer brightens up the eye area, which is especially helpful when one wears glasses.

    I'm dealing with allergies now! Have you found this year to be particularly heinous for allergies? Wow, mine are killing me.
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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    It's been a horrible year for allergies!

    My sinuses ache almost daily. Even my prescription nose spray hasn't eliminated all my symptoms.

    Very aggravating.
  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »
    One additional question. I put a slightly shimmery, slightly lighter concealer in my nasal labial folds to try to camouflage them. Good idea or bad plan? Youtube gurus don't have wrinkles, so they are no help at all. Oh and this question isn't for me. It is for Just a Jesus Chick's "friend".:laughing3: Just a Jesus chick and I have no wrinkles.

    Thanks again. This was all really helpful.
    :laughing3:

    Which product do you use for that? The concealer in a slightly lighter shade is a great idea. I do this also to cover my seborrheic dermatitis. BUT a shimmery concealer (a highlighter, I guess?) will call attention to the area rather than hide it. Best to use one without shimmer.


    Glad to help!!
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    pedaheh wrote: »
    One additional question. I put a slightly shimmery, slightly lighter concealer in my nasal labial folds to try to camouflage them. Good idea or bad plan? Youtube gurus don't have wrinkles, so they are no help at all. Oh and this question isn't for me. It is for Just a Jesus Chick's "friend".:laughing3: Just a Jesus chick and I have no wrinkles.

    Thanks again. This was all really helpful.
    :laughing3:

    Which product do you use for that? The concealer in a slightly lighter shade is a great idea. I do this also to cover my seborrheic dermatitis. BUT a shimmery concealer (a highlighter, I guess?) will call attention to the area rather than hide it. Best to use one without shimmer.


    Glad to help!!
    I use maybelline mineral power concealer. Sometimes I'll use the salmon color (unfortunately a bit dark for me) in the Sonja Kashuk concealer palette first and layer the maybelline over the top. I figure if the salmon color helps with under eye circles and age spots, it should help with the darker areas in the nasal labial folds. I just make this stuff up as I go along and hope I'm doing more good then harm.:cherry:
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  • sew and sewsew and sew Posts: 3,443Registered Users
    Phoenix wrote: »
    nynaeve77 wrote: »
    Can you recommend a good brow powder for ashy dark brown brows? I've been finding that what's offered for brunettes is too light, and what's offered for black hair is definitely too dark.
    Obviously not Phoenix, but I use the Maybelline brow powder in dark brown. It's the perfect shade and my eyebrows are pretty dark.
    lol, this is what I was going to rec!

    Also Ardell Brow Palette in Medium Brown, and Ben Nye pressed e/s powder in Twilight Sable. Ardell is sold in Sally's and other places. But Ben Nye is mainly sold only or in makeup/theatre supply shops.

    Thank you both! I'll check these out.
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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    But Ben Nye is mainly sold only or in makeup/theatre supply shops.
    Whoops, I meant Ben Nye is mainly sold online or in makeup/theatre supply shops.
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