what they don't tell you about DevaCut!

jaclyn15jaclyn15 Posts: 227Registered Users
I recently got my first DevaCut. It was a treat to myself for sticking with the CG method for a full month. I thought it would be helpful to get my hair shaped well and get instructions about how to use products more effectively.

What they don't tell you about DevaCut is that your hair is cut unevenly. The stylist looks at your hair in its curly state, and it actually seems pretty haphazard the way she will cut the pieces. She sort of eyeballs you, picks up some pieces, and starts cutting in an effort to shape your hair while it is dry.

So, if you straighten your hair, it will look very uneven, because she is not cutting it with any overall plan to keep the pieces even or sides symmetrical.

Now, I understand that the goal of this is to give your hair the best shape when it's CURLY, not straight. I rarely straighten my hair, so this will hopefully not be an issue for me. BUT, I am not sure how I feel about having my hair cut this way. Frankly, I feel like if I wanted to take a scissors and just eyeball which pieces of hair seem like they need to go, I could do that myself (and for free). Plus, as all curly girls know, our hair lays differently every day. So now I feel like I have a hair cut that is based on how my hair was laying the day I went to the salon - which seems pretty stupid, in retrospect.

My hair looks OK - but I find myself noticing the asymmetry and it bothers me. I don't want to have it re-cut since it will just get shorter, so I will be letting this grow out awhile. The fact is that my old stylist was great, but the CG book sort of brainwashed me into thinking that wet cutting is NEVER good. The reality is, it's all about what works for you.

PS. The Deva stylist I selected has extensive training and outstanding reviews on this website. So, I don't think I chose a "bad" one.
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  • itsiliiiitsiliii Posts: 340Registered Users
    ah yeah ive heard about that! Ever since i heard about the technically "uneven" cut ive been second guessing getting a Deva cut...especially considering how expensive they are!! x.x
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  • Honeyb0000Honeyb0000 Posts: 42Registered Users
    I am going through this right now.

    I got my first (maybe last?) Deva cut in NYC in April. It looked really good then. But now, as it grows out, things are just all over the place. Unbalanced. Uneven.

    I am planning to just let it grow with length trims only for a while to see if I can even things out.

    Maybe the Deva thing works if you just commit to always wearing it one way. But my hair falls differently every single day. Impossible.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Same experience I had with two different Deva stylists. I think it's meant for those who only wear their curly. It also doesn't work on curly hair like mine that curls inconsistently - never the same way twice.

    I have a good curly cutter who cuts mine wet.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

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  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 12,228Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    jaclyn15 wrote: »
    I recently got my first DevaCut. It was a treat to myself for sticking with the CG method for a full month. I thought it would be helpful to get my hair shaped well and get instructions about how to use products more effectively.

    What they don't tell you about DevaCut is that your hair is cut unevenly. The stylist looks at your hair in its curly state, and it actually seems pretty haphazard the way she will cut the pieces. She sort of eyeballs you, picks up some pieces, and starts cutting in an effort to shape your hair while it is dry.

    So, if you straighten your hair, it will look very uneven, because she is not cutting it with any overall plan to keep the pieces even or sides symmetrical.

    Now, I understand that the goal of this is to give your hair the best shape when it's CURLY, not straight. I rarely straighten my hair, so this will hopefully not be an issue for me. BUT, I am not sure how I feel about having my hair cut this way. Frankly, I feel like if I wanted to take a scissors and just eyeball which pieces of hair seem like they need to go, I could do that myself (and for free). Plus, as all curly girls know, our hair lays differently every day. So now I feel like I have a hair cut that is based on how my hair was laying the day I went to the salon - which seems pretty stupid, in retrospect.

    My hair looks OK - but I find myself noticing the asymmetry and it bothers me. I don't want to have it re-cut since it will just get shorter, so I will be letting this grow out awhile. The fact is that my old stylist was great, but the CG book sort of brainwashed me into thinking that wet cutting is NEVER good. The reality is, it's all about what works for you.

    PS. The Deva stylist I selected has extensive training and outstanding reviews on this website. So, I don't think I chose a "bad" one.

    Re: the bolded - you are so right! That is why I've never been satisfied with Deva cuts - I've tried 3 different Deva stylists. I ended up going to someone who also cuts curly hair but she cuts it wet and I'm much happier with it, whether I do it curly or in a roller set.
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  • Jules1965Jules1965 Posts: 3Registered Users
    I would kill to find a stylist that will shape my hair while it’s dry and wavy/curly. I’ve totally given up on the whole straight-thing, because it’s humid here, and straightening is a waste of time, energy and healthy hair. My last three cuts have been cut wet and for straight, blown out hair, so now that I am going curly, it looks like…well…y’all know. :protest:

    Thank you for the head’s up, tho…all the more reason, once I get a curly cut, I won’t be tempted to straighten. :toothy8:
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    With a Deva cut, mine looked like crap even when curly - there were always scraggly pieces hanging down where it curled differently than it did the day it was cut.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

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  • SparklyCurlsSparklyCurls Posts: 163Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    True a Deva cut is not for everyone.

    It’s a particular cut specified only to be worn by curly heads and not for those that want to also wear their hair straight.

    If you research the actual cut - it is intended to be cut uneven as each and every curl is cut at its own length.

    But just the same as regular cutters you can also find curly cutters who don’t do a good job at it.

    And to be fair, this is not something they are keeping from you – it’s all public knowledge.

  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    True a Deva cut is not for everyone.

    It’s a particular cut specified only to be worn by curly heads and not for those that want to also wear their hair straight.

    If you research the actual cut - it is intended to be cut uneven as each and every curl is cut at its own length.

    But just the same as regular cutters you can also find curly cutters who don’t do a good job at it.

    And to be fair, this is not something they are keeping from you – it’s all public knowledge.


    For some of us it simply doesn't work - curly or straight. I might straighten mine once every three years, literally, so it's not that I also want to wear mine straight.

    It all depends on how an individual's hair curls, and that they do not tell you.
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  • SparklyCurlsSparklyCurls Posts: 163Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I’m not entirely certain who ‘they’ are that you refer to but I do know in researching a Deva cut it is said each curl is cut according to the curl pattern of the individuals hair pattern – not everyone has the same curl pattern and it would be up to the experience of the person cutting it to customize it as fitting to that particular person.

    Cutting curly hair using the technique of being a true Devi Cut – takes training and experience in a specialized way of analyzing the correct curl pattern and cutting each curl correctly.

    What some hairdressers may not tell you is that they are not 'truly' Deva trained. It's nothing you can gain knowledge of by just watching a YouTube video.

    I say all this from my very own experience.

    Next week I go for my 7th Deva cut – not from the Devachan Salon but from a trained and experienced Deva cutter. I travel and have three curler cutters I can depend on without worry to do a fabulous job - I guess I count myself lucky in that respect.

  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,355Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I’m not entirely certain who ‘they’ are that you refer to but I do know in researching a Deva cut it is said each curl is cut according to the curl pattern of the individuals hair pattern – not everyone has the same curl pattern and it would be up to the experience of the person cutting it to customize it as fitting to that particular person.

    Cutting curly hair using the technique of being a true Devi Cut – takes training and experience in a specialized way of analyzing the correct curl pattern and cutting each curl correctly.

    What some hairdressers may not tell you is that they are not 'truly' Deva trained. It's nothing you can gain knowledge of by just watching a YouTube video.

    I say all this from my very own experience.

    Next week I go for my 7th Deva cut – not from the Devachan Salon but from a trained and experienced Deva cutter. I travel and have three curler cutters I can depend on without worry to do a fabulous job - I guess I count myself lucky in that respect.

    sparklycurls -- you are correct that many of them are not trained. years ago it was a 2 weekend course, and now it is one day. so they may learn to cut an individual curl, but how to fit it in with a head of different types of waves and curls takes a lot more than one day. in fact, i think deva does not refer to it as training, they have another word that is escaping me right now. so, it is up to the individual stylist to get more, maybe deva does offer a more intense course, or on her own. and, remember, each stylist has more or less of a talent for haircutting, everyone is different.
    so, if you get a deva cut by someone who is good, your individual curls will blend in and grow out nicely.

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  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I LOVE my Deva cut!! I would not go back to another way of cutting. The difference it has made in my hair is remarkable.

    I do not straighten but my hair does not look lopsided nor uneven.

    It took me from real weak waves to waves with curls and some ringlets.

    I agree about getting someone who is very well trained. My current stylist has worked with Lorraine to train others.

    I researched, watched videos and learned all about it myself before going so I do not feel like there were things I was not told or frankly, did not know. I interviewed stylists. I have been to 3 Deva trained stylists.
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  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    They. You know, They, LOL! They = Deva, Lorraine Massey and other proponents of the Deva cut.

    I've used two stylists, found directly from the Deva site. The first seemed to be poorly trained with little experience, despite what I'd been told about her - likely only attended the one-day "Curlabration"

    The second was well trained, and I saw other Deva cuts that she did that looked great before I ever gave her a try. After several tries on me, we finally both agreed that my curl pattern was just too inconsistent and ever-changing for it to work well. She started cutting mine wet, which worked much better for me - I liked that she was flexible enough to be willing to do that. We both still used much of the other CG tips/techniques.

    When I was younger and my hair was much curlier, I think it would've been great for me. In fact, in those days, I used to cut it dry myself, and it worked well.
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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  • krm4hkrm4h Posts: 54Registered Users
    I've also had this experience (I've only had one Deva cut so far), though it doesn't really bother me. The right side of the hair that lays on my shoulder is slightly longer than the left. I figure she'll shape it up when I go in for a trim, and it's slight enough that no one would notice it but me. Maybe since I'm nearly 28 now and a little older, I'm just not as concerned about the little things like that. :)
  • Ms.CabernetMs.Cabernet Posts: 137Registered Users
    I absolutely know the way some of you feel here. I've got three Deva cuts by professionals with excellent reviews here, and I haven't been able to get used to wear "uneven" hair.
    The way the OP posts is exactly how I felt after each of these cuts: I've better done it myself with a pair of regular scissors. I still don't understand the science behind "cutting each curl individually" and how such a great technique results in uneven hair. Not slightly uneven - but really weird looking.
    So no more dry cuts for me...not even if I get one for free at Devachan! Cheap trims is what I'm having done every three months and it's looking good!
    By the way I'm 3b...maybe these cuts are better for some wavies, as it helps make their hair curlier?
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,355Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I absolutely know the way some of you feel here. I've got three Deva cuts by professionals with excellent reviews here, and I haven't been able to get used to wear "uneven" hair.
    The way the OP posts is exactly how I felt after each of these cuts: I've better done it myself with a pair of regular scissors. I still don't understand the science behind "cutting each curl individually" and how such a great technique results in uneven hair. Not slightly uneven - but really weird looking.
    So no more dry cuts for me...not even if I get one for free at Devachan! Cheap trims is what I'm having done every three months and it's looking good!
    By the way I'm 3b...maybe these cuts are better for some wavies, as it helps make their hair curlier?

    i bet the training these stylists had was the 'curlabration,' -- one day about how to care for curly hair, how to cut it, how to color it. not enough. several years back i also went to a deva trained stylist, local, who was and still is raved about on the reviews here -- i ended up with a mullet that took my regular stylist 3 cuts to finally bring it back! she did not account for the very curly crown (some 3b) and the very loose back/bottom, some, at that time, 2c.
    that is what i am talking about, they do not have enough training to visualize the entire head, how each curl/wave will interact with each other. now there clearly are many stylists who can put it together because of their sheer talent and other training, others who can't. and for the life of me i cannot understand how this particular one got the reviews she did. except that she is local, so.... and maybe the ones who got good cuts from her had one curl pattern??????
    again, seeing a good cut and asking who the stylist is still remains the optimal way to get a good stylist. if you are lucky enough to spot someone!
    i do think deva is to be blamed for the insufficient training they are now giving -- i think better to have fewer deva trained stylists but to know they truly know what to do with curly hair. so i don't think it's the method, i think it's the insufficient training. i get deva cuts, have for years, from someone who worked at devachan and actually did the old training courses, so i know what a good deva cut can do. i have many friends with different curl patterns (including my daughter) who also go to him and get great haircuts. i believe it's what the individual stylist does with what deva gives them.
    and there are many stylists out there who never took a deva course and are good with curly hair.

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  • Ms.CabernetMs.Cabernet Posts: 137Registered Users
    Yes. I remember when I used to go to a random hairdresser and had just shampoo, conditioner, a plain trim, a little mousse and voila!! Great curly (or blow dried) hair that lasted three days...(before the Deva theory was even created). I'll go back to that.
  • pinkwaterlilypinkwaterlily Posts: 21Registered Users
    I just my first Deva cut a couple of days ago. Before that, I just trimmed it myself, so it was all one length....i.e. flat-top pyramid :faroah:

    I came into the salon with my hair parted to one side, and the stylist cut my hair without re-parting it. The two sides are completely uneven...so if I part my hair down the center, one side is 3 inches long, and the other is 10 inches long. So basically, I now have to wear my hair parted the same exact way for it to look good.

    Now, on the other hand, I love the way the cut came out. It's got lots of layers, and I don't think I could've done it all myself at home, especially the layers in the back. (He put some really funky super-short layers at my crown, for example.)

    The reason I got the cut was because I finally decided to make peace with my hair and go the whole curly route. With a cut like this, it gives me a great incentive to take care of my curls because 1) the cut looks great on curly hair and 2) I will look like a crazy person if I decide to straighten it. :iconbiggrin:
  • curlylarucurlylaru Banned Posts: 143Banned Users
    I never thought about this I hope I never have this problem in the future. I got my first deva cut a couple of months ago. The cut itself was beautiful but my only gripe is she took off half my lenght after I specifically told her I was growing it longer. I've straightened it once since then and it was even guess I lucked out. I did notice she stretched my curls a bit while cutting then they would stap back when she let go so maybe she was measuring by eyeballing it and stretching it.

    The effect the cut has on my curls is amazing. They're more uniform and my hair just falls into place now with little effort. Before, my curls were just all over the place, uneven and I had major triangle hair. It looks good straight too, just a very layered straight look. I'm a 3c.
  • curlylarucurlylaru Banned Posts: 143Banned Users
    I just my first Deva cut a couple of days ago. Before that, I just trimmed it myself, so it was all one length....i.e. flat-top pyramid :faroah:

    I came into the salon with my hair parted to one side, and the stylist cut my hair without re-parting it. The two sides are completely uneven...so if I part my hair down the center, one side is 3 inches long, and the other is 10 inches long. So basically, I now have to wear my hair parted the same exact way for it to look good.

    Now, on the other hand, I love the way the cut came out. It's got lots of layers, and I don't think I could've done it all myself at home, especially the layers in the back. (He put some really funky super-short layers at my crown, for example.)

    The reason I got the cut was because I finally decided to make peace with my hair and go the whole curly route. With a cut like this, it gives me a great incentive to take care of my curls because 1) the cut looks great on curly hair and 2) I will look like a crazy person if I decide to straighten it. :iconbiggrin:

    Wow I can't beleive she didn't take the part into consideration.
  • pinkwaterlilypinkwaterlily Posts: 21Registered Users
    curlylaru wrote: »
    Wow I can't beleive she didn't take the part into consideration.

    Yeah, I was a little surprised too. Now I will know to bring it up next time I am getting my hair cut.

    Luckily, the cut came out looking great, and I don't mind having to part it in one way for a while.
  • ElizcostaElizcosta Posts: 37Registered Users
    Mine is always cut to the part I come in with, they have never re parted it.


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  • KorkscrewKorkscrew Posts: 1,834Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I got the best cut of my life a couple weeks ago and (yes) it happened to be a Deva cut. I had a fairly good Deva cut about two months prior to that.

    I agree with those who say the outcome often depends on the level of the stylist's expertise and talent. Yet I also see merit in the argument that a head full of several types of curls can mean the cut might not look the same once you wash and dry it again.

    I have - guessing - at least three curl types (mostly 3b/c) and so that's something that probably made it more likely I'd need to do a little corrective snipping in a couple places following the cut. But it was worth it.

    The main reason I value the Deva cut is because my hair looks so much better and the curls pop so much more with the strategic layers she gave me. The dry cutting method just seems to yield a better layered look IMO than all the wet cuts I've ever had.

    I think whether or not you get a Deva cut, your odds of getting a favorable cut can be greatly increased by:

    Doing your homework: reading a bunch of reviews on the stylist ahead of time, plus having consultations to ensure they're seasoned Deva stylists;

    Presenting your stylist with photos of models who have similar hair sporting the style you're looking for.

    Being quite vocal about length: Tell them exactly how much you want taken off, especially if different than the pics you're presenting. Be firm about how much or little hair you want taken off.

    ... Deva cuts are ideal for people who want a funky curly style to wear most of the time. Getting short layers in the crown has done WONDERS to perk up my hair too.
  • ultracurlzultracurlz Posts: 213Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    bwahahahaha XD

    i totally did that myself XD

    with baby blue little kid scissors XP

    i stilll see random curls that pop out every once in a while......it's weird and slightly off kilter........

    like me :laughing7:
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  • cutikikicutikiki Posts: 5Registered Users
    thank you for sharing ,
  • CurlyQ82CurlyQ82 Posts: 51Registered Users
    I'm new to the site and just learning about Deva cuts and considered it...but after reading some of the reviews and these posts, it seems mixed and I chickened out this time around. I mostly wear my hair curly but I do like some symmetry in my layers so when I do decide once in a while to blow it out, it looks good that way as well. Are the deva cuts always assymmetrical to the point where you wouldnt be able to blow them out? Still sticking with a wet cut for now :confused1:
  • banjocurlbanjocurl Posts: 1,031Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    i love my devacuts. i've been getting one cut per year from devachan itself, judy, carlos, sophie, ana....all did a fabulous job with my hair. i also got a cut from debbie at rapunzel in suffern near where i live and she is excellent as well. i never straighten so i don't know if it is uneven or not but it looks great and grows out really nicely too. i would recommend it highly. i have long 3b corkicelli hair.
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  • debbahdebbah Posts: 48Registered Users
    I got my first Deva cut at Devachan in NY about a month ago, and I LOVE it. It is the very first time in my very LONG life that I've actually had a stylist that GOT my hair! Agree with the other posters who went in with the pyramid shape and left with stylish hair, and also that it's much better if you're embracing the curly. I've really decided that I need to do the best with the hair I have rather than trying to make my hair be something it's not. Only took me 43 years to figure that out :-)

    I actually like the slightly funky, not perfectly straight and even, look of my style. For the first time (other than having a pixie cut) I feel like my hair actually has a style rather than just sitting there.

    BTW, I had Lois and she was great.
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  • gardencurlsgardencurls Posts: 573Registered Users
    The Curly Girl book and all of the video clips, etc. about Deva Cuts emphasize that the hair is cut unevenly in a Deva Cut, and that curls are literally cut individually. I've been cutting my own hair for many years now, and when I read the CG book I was so relieved to read about the "uneven" cuts. I've always cut my hair dry, thus unevenly, and I used to wonder if hair fashionistas cringed because they could see something I didn't see. As a teenager, I remember trying to tell a stylist how the back left side curls one way, and right side side is different, so if they're cut evenly my hair continually looks crooked...and the hair around my face...after an "even" cut, when dry it would look like I was the loser in a fight with a lawnmower. I started cutting my own hair & after college started going back to stylists. I had the same problems. They soaked my hair, cut it wet, and afterwards I could never get my hair to look even (the lawnmover thing). And everybody would tell me my hair was "crooked" and uneven. A couple people even asked if I requested asymmetrical hair for some quirky personal style. So I went back to cutting my own hair. Honestly, I felt so much better after learning that Deva stylists do this, too! For the first time ever I felt like my hair might be kinda "fashionable"...a little.
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  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,355Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    debbah wrote: »
    I actually like the slightly funky, not perfectly straight and even, look of my style. For the first time (other than having a pixie cut) I feel like my hair actually has a style rather than just sitting there.

    i, too, love that 'slightly funky' look, somehow i feel it makes my hair look curlier! i think precision cuts do not bring out the best in curly hair. love my deva cuts!

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
    washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
    leave in:curl junkie conditioners and treatments as leave in
    styling: curl junkie 
    sealants - jane carter nourish & shine
  • CurliGirli56CurliGirli56 Posts: 1Registered Users
    I had a Deva cut a couple months ago by a stylist who received rave reviews and has been through the professional training. I have ethnic (mixed race) 3b-c hair - it's course, dry, curly/frizzy. Cutting ethnic curly hair is not the same as cutting anglo curly hair and I wish those distinctions were made in the reviews for stylists. I wear my hair short which seems to be a challenge for most stylists I've been to in Maryland, and I've been to a lot. I moved here 16 years ago from L.A. where I had a fabulous hair stylist who cut my hair wet. I've probably been to 16+ hair stylists and have yet to find one who can give me a cute, short cut without it looking like Orphan Annie or some boring Mom look (I'm 54). I was in L.A. in March and made an appt. with my sister's stylist - James at Joseph Martin in Beverly Hills (on Canon). It was the best hair cut I've had in years and he cut my hair wet. And the fancy Deva cut I had a couple months left me with way too many dry/split ends, which I believe is caused by not cutting every hair/end, plus the Deva gel dries out my hair. Cremes work much better on my ethnic curls. So my search continues for a Maryland stylist who knows how to cut ethnic curls without some gimmicky cutting style but with true talent, creativity and experience in diverse curls. Wish me luck.:neutral:

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