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Shine for Graying/Natural Color?

GracingsGracings Posts: 43Registered Users
Well, as my hair grows out to its natural color, I detect more of a soft gray with mostly ash. I'm not as gray as I thought, but I'm gonna love it, nonetheless.

But I need help in the shine and frizz department. I've been sulfate and silicone free for many months, though I'm so tempted to find something that will hold my curls and give them longer-lasting shine in these summer months.

What do you do? Do you break some of the rules in your humid summers? And if so, what products do you recommend?
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  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Used Baking Soda Sampoo Recipe and it works! Also rinsed with Apple Cider Vinegar and that made the gray curls shine like crazy. 1 tbsp of BS to one cup of warm water. Concentrate on the roots. Leave in for five minutes and rinse... 2 tbsp ACV to 1 cup of warm water. Saturate hair and rinse or leave in.
    Amazing results...nice defined, frizz free curls that shine even after 3 hours of exposure to high humidity.
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    262536_2081412948000_1025363256_31971029_351219_s.jpg This was taken three hours after being in high humidity. The BS and ACV really work!
  • GracingsGracings Posts: 43Registered Users
    Thank you, Barbarosa. Your curls are super-shiningly beautiful, and defined. Do you use this every time that you shampoo, or just when things start to go downhill?
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Gracings wrote: »
    Thank you, Barbarosa. Your curls are super-shiningly beautiful, and defined. Do you use this every time that you shampoo, or just when things start to go downhill?

    Hi Gracings
    Thank you so much! I do this only every ten days. Condition poo in between with Suave Naturals Coconut Conditioner. The curls in your picture look very much like mine. Have hated my curls for so very long but since letting them go gray, they have become very healthy. Trying to grow them to shoulder length. I'm 64 and will try not to think about what's "age appropriate" :) It's all about attitude, dont you thinnk?
  • GracingsGracings Posts: 43Registered Users
    Good to know. I did the baking soda last night. I've done the vinegar before, but didn't do that last night. There is definitely more shine! My curls aren't consistent, but I was in dry A/C.

    Our curls do look similar and I'm wishing you the best in your grow-out. I just turned 50, and am trying to continue my growing out to bra strap length for more updo options. Age....bah! It's all in how we look best, for sure!
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Hi Gracings
    So glad to hear that you got shining curls with the BS. One other thing I forgot to mention in my last message... no more towels to dry your hair. Use a tee shirt to gently blot out the moisture. It makes a difference!
  • crwrittcrwritt Posts: 705Registered Users
    I just did the baking soda wash/ acv rinse, then added a tiny bit of pure argan oil, then Softee protein gel.
    I get so much root lift when I do the bs/acv.Is this true for you?
    Haven't done this in ages,Thanks for reminding me!
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Yes, I noticed that too! The lift is definitely better especially on top. Today after co washing I mixed a little Deva One Condition with the ACV in a cup of water, poured it on and did NOT rinse. My hair just loves it. Just wondering if too much of a good thing might not be so good. Anyone know if using the ACV too often will cause problems?
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    How much oil? I used olive oil once and it mademy hair really greasy.
  • crwrittcrwritt Posts: 705Registered Users
    Barbarosa wrote: »
    How much oil? I used olive oil once and it mademy hair really greasy.

    Just the tiniest drop, rubbed over the front and backs
    of my hands and worked through my hair.Really just enough to make my hands shiny, that's all I use when I
    put oil in my hair.
  • crwrittcrwritt Posts: 705Registered Users
    Barbarosa wrote: »
    Yes, I noticed that too! The lift is definitely better especially on top. Today after co washing I mixed a little Deva One Condition with the ACV in a cup of water, poured it on and did NOT rinse. My hair just loves it. Just wondering if too much of a good thing might not be so good. Anyone know if using the ACV too often will cause problems?

    I use it after a coconut oil pre poo and rinse it out.

    Coconut oil (tiny bit) over night, low poo wash, Acv rinse and rinse out. They used to call it oil shampooing.

    I flip flop on my methods so I don't think I'll O.D. on it.
  • silverbethsilverbeth Posts: 8Registered Users
    Thanks so much for this information. I saved the recipe. I used to use a blue shampoo but it had sulfates so no more. Barbarosa--your silver curls are beautiful! This is what I am hoping for. When I transitioned to gray I always used rollers and a blow dryer to straighten my hair. I'm so excited to now be silver and naturally curly.
    2a/3a type hair; med/fine texture; natural silver w/brown
    CG since 7/19/11, growing out short pixie to chin or shoulder length
    Devacurl No-Poo, One-condition, AnGel, recently LA Looks,
  • crwrittcrwritt Posts: 705Registered Users
    silverbeth wrote: »
    Thanks so much for this information. I saved the recipe. I used to use a blue shampoo but it had sulfates so no more. Barbarosa--your silver curls are beautiful! This is what I am hoping for. When I transitioned to gray I always used rollers and a blow dryer to straighten my hair. I'm so excited to now be silver and naturally curly.

    If you want a purple/blue tint for your cowash, you can get the Ardell red gold corrector at Sally's and add it to any shampoo or conditioner you like.
  • silverbethsilverbeth Posts: 8Registered Users
    That's also good to know. I used the blue shampoo about once a week to brighten the silver.
    2a/3a type hair; med/fine texture; natural silver w/brown
    CG since 7/19/11, growing out short pixie to chin or shoulder length
    Devacurl No-Poo, One-condition, AnGel, recently LA Looks,
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    silverbeth wrote: »
    Thanks so much for this information. I saved the recipe. I used to use a blue shampoo but it had sulfates so no more. Barbarosa--your silver curls are beautiful! This is what I am hoping for. When I transitioned to gray I always used rollers and a blow dryer to straighten my hair. I'm so excited to now be silver and naturally curly.[/QUOTE


    Congratulations Silverbeth! So happy for you for making the decision to go completely natural. Thanks for your kind words. It is so much easier this way. Your hair is going to be so healthy too.
    I kept getting frequent cuts during the transition but now I'm trying for little more length. The curls seem to be less tight when there's length. Last hair dresser wanted to keep it "age appropriate" but that's alot of nonsense. Good luck in your adventure. You're gonna love it!
  • silverbethsilverbeth Posts: 8Registered Users
    Thank you Barbarosa! I can already feel a difference in my hair after only 1 week of CG--it's much softer. I still can't believe it looks OK without all rollers and blow drying! What freedom!

    I also hate hearing about what's "age appropriate". I believe that as long as we are not harming anyone else we have a right to do what makes us happy, short hair, medium, long... I'm 56--and I see no harm in having longer silver curly hair. It's all fun!
    2a/3a type hair; med/fine texture; natural silver w/brown
    CG since 7/19/11, growing out short pixie to chin or shoulder length
    Devacurl No-Poo, One-condition, AnGel, recently LA Looks,
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Silverbeth, I'm with you! There are no rules. I am 64 and have never really like my curls until now. So I'm growing them! As long as they are healthy is what's important. I too was a slave to the hot iron, curlers and chemicals. Wish I had done this sooner.
    262536_2081412948000_1025363256_31971029_351219_s.jpg
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Another 'rule' breaker here. I wear my hair, clothes, jewelry, whatever that I like no matter what others say.

    I've used vinegar rinses for a few decades and my hair loves them. And it does add some shine. I also us a dab of Ojon Restorative for shine and to control flyawayss.
    I've never tried a baking soda rinse but will do that sometime.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Cheers to you Jeepy! Your hair is beautiful! You are my idol! (especially now since Cindy Joseph went blond for Nivea.) Ofcourse she is gorgeous no matter what color her hair is but I loved it so much gray. Going to try and get my hair to your length. It should be easier now that I stopped the madness :). Will try the Ojon. Where can I find it?
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Thanks barbarosa!
    I get my Ojon on Ebay tho they do sell it on their own website Ojon.com. The used to sell it here on Curlmart but I didn't see it last time I was looking at stuff here. That was awhile ago tho.
    It is my splurge item as it is more than I spend on any hair product. But a small tub lasts a long long time. Warning, people either love or hate the smell. I am addicted to it and often open the tub to smell it even when I'm not going to use any! : )
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • silverbethsilverbeth Posts: 8Registered Users
    Another 'rule' breaker here. I wear my hair, clothes, jewelry, whatever that I like no matter what others say.

    I agree that your hair is beautiful jeep! and I have to say it--very cool! -- here's to breaking the rules!
    2a/3a type hair; med/fine texture; natural silver w/brown
    CG since 7/19/11, growing out short pixie to chin or shoulder length
    Devacurl No-Poo, One-condition, AnGel, recently LA Looks,
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Thanks barbarosa!
    I get my Ojon on Ebay tho they do sell it on their own website Ojon.com. The used to sell it here on Curlmart but I didn't see it last time I was looking at stuff here. That was awhile ago tho.
    It is my splurge item as it is more than I spend on any hair product. But a small tub lasts a long long time. Warning, people either love or hate the smell. I am addicted to it and often open the tub to smell it even when I'm not going to use any! : )

    Thanks Jeepy! I went to their website and found many products with the name Ojon Restorative.....shampoos, conditioners, sprays, deep conditioners... Sorry to be a pest but can you tell me specifically which product of Ojon you use in your little dab?
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Thanks, silverbeth! I think you all have gorgeous hair!

    barbarosa, sorry I should have been more clear. It's Ojon Restorative Hair Treatment and it comes in a tub. I see on the website that they've added "Damage Reverse" to the name also. Ojon
    You can also find it on Ebay, usually for a little cheaper. They even sell sample packs on there most of the time.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    Thanks barbarosa!
    I get my Ojon on Ebay tho they do sell it on their own website Ojon.com. The used to sell it here on Curlmart but I didn't see it last time I was looking at stuff here. That was awhile ago tho.
    It is my splurge item as it is more than I spend on any hair product. But a small tub lasts a long long time. Warning, people either love or hate the smell. I am addicted to it and often open the tub to smell it even when I'm not going to use any! : )

    Thanks Jeep!
    Just got outbid on Ebay. The three ounce size was outfid at $8. Does that seem high to you? Will try Lords and Ladies. Have a merchandise credit there.
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    A 3 oz tub went for $8?! They usually sell for $25-$30 for that size.
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • nandiknitsnandiknits Posts: 260Registered Users
    Jeepcurlygirl, can you please tell me if Ojon Restorative Treatment has any protein or silk amino acids in it? Thanks in advance. (The ingredients aren't listed on the site.)
    CG since June/09
    3a/b extremely thick, coarse, porous
    Loving AOHR, Biolage Conditioning Balm, KCCC.:glasses8:
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Here are the ingredients I found on Amazon.
    Elaeis Oleifera (American Palm Oil), Perfume (Fragrance), Citronellol, Lecithin, Linalool, Tocopherol, Ascorbyl Palmitate (Vitamin C), Citric Acid, Prunus Africana (Prunus Africana Bark Extract), Serenoa Serrulata (Serenoa Serrulata Extract)
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
  • nandiknitsnandiknits Posts: 260Registered Users
    Thanks a lot Jeepcurlygurl. Looks good and protein free.
    CG since June/09
    3a/b extremely thick, coarse, porous
    Loving AOHR, Biolage Conditioning Balm, KCCC.:glasses8:
  • BarbarosaBarbarosa Posts: 116Registered Users
    A 3 oz tub went for $8?! They usually sell for $25-$30 for that size.

    No that was my last bid. Someone outbid me. Not sure what final was. Trying hard to get the length. How long did it take you?
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,250Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    When I started getting gray I cut my hair into a chin length bob and kept trimming it up to that length as the gray grew in. Then I let it grow out, just trimming it when it needed it. In the summer spend alot of time in the sun, ride on my guy's harleys, and ride in convertibles so my hair does get damaged and tangled so I do have to trim it sometimes. Plus it doesn't grow real fast so it has taken a few years to get to the length it is now (not quite bra strap length in back when wet).
    --I'm located in Western PA.
    --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, started going grey in late 2005.
    --My hair is 3B with some 3A, texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal except for the ends which are porous, elasticity-normal.
    --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, oils, honey, vinegar.
    --My CG and grey hair progress -- http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html
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