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  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    Nice pics but I say NO to the Pantene Curly line especially since the Pantene Curly Deep Conditioner treatment has sodium hydroxide it's really a perm/texturizer.

    You can just use Suave Naturals from the dollar store until you research some other conditioners.

    Good idea with a hair journal

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  • franelpanafranelpana Registered Users Posts: 15
    What is a texturizer? sorry for my ignorance hehe. I know i like suave naturals, it leaves my hair soft and the coconut scent smells good. Hey, and why do you use like 3 conditioners, should i use a different conditioner for cowash?
  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    Any product that says "loosens curls" most likely has sodium hydroxide. A texturizer is similar to a perm in that it uses chemicals to alter the hair permanently or semi permanently.

    Texturizers are targeted more at men and also include such products as s-curls, Bantu, etc and sometimes is not as strong as a standard perm.

    I use several conditioners for different reasons but all of them are cone-free.

    I have one conditioner that is full of protein that I only use once a month.

    The conditioner I use that has algae is great for activating the protein by attaching to it and carrying it into the cortex of the hair. So in this case one conditioner improves how the other conditioner works. I also use the algae right before I apply any conditioner in shower because I believe it also helps distribute the aloe, avocado, and coconut oils that are in the other conditioners.

    So I really use the algae conditioner as a base or catalyst before using any conditioner that I rinse out.

    My 3rd conditioner is for deep moisture by TRESemme Naturals and doubles as my styling leave-in conditioner.

    The 4th conditioner is sleek by TRESemme Naturals and I only use it when I detangle once a month.


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  • franelpanafranelpana Registered Users Posts: 15
    update, i'm just editing the first post for everyday, for those who think i haven't taken any more pictures
  • ttlollattlolla Registered Users Posts: 948 Curl Neophyte
    PRINCETON wrote: »
    Nice pics but I say NO to the Pantene Curly line especially since the Pantene Curly Deep Conditioner treatment has sodium hydroxide it's really a perm/texturizer.

    You can just use Suave Naturals from the dollar store until you research some other conditioners.

    Good idea with a hair journal

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    Goodness gracious! the treatment is not a perm
  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    @ttlolla

    Then why does it have LYE (sodium hydroxide) in it? I used it once and everybody I came in contact even said I smelled like a perm.

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    Ingredients: Water, Stearyl Alcohol, Bis Aminopropyl Dimethicone, Behentrimonium Chloride, Cetyl Alcohol, Fragrance, Benzyl Alcohol, Disodium EDTA, Panthenol, Panthenyl Ethyl Ether, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone


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  • franelpanafranelpana Registered Users Posts: 15
    oh, it's not that one, it's the conditoner, it's the same line of products but it's not the treatment, mine is in a bottle like most conditioners
  • ttlollattlolla Registered Users Posts: 948 Curl Neophyte
    It is at the bottom of the list, so inactive and I read It's apparently meant to be a preservative .

    Don't quote me on that though
  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    ttlolla wrote: »
    It is at the bottom of the list, so inactive and I read It's apparently meant to be a preservative .

    Don't quote on that though

    Well I'm speaking from first hand experience from using it. For a week or 2 I smelled just like a perm. But the bottle does say it loosens curl pattern and I found most products with LYE say the same. It's not that it lies but I think it should inform better about the chemicals. I even found it weird that you have to remove the label just to see the ingredients and then they don't stick back to the container.


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  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    franelpana wrote: »
    oh, it's not that one, it's the conditoner, it's the same line of products but it's not the treatment, mine is in a bottle like most conditioners

    I know you meant the conditioner but because product lines are formulated to support each other I just suggest you know about ingredients before using it.


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  • ttlollattlolla Registered Users Posts: 948 Curl Neophyte
    Ok! I've never used it
  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    ttlolla wrote: »
    Ok! I've never used it

    LOL :) I think it's the natural hair side of me that keeps me informing people about this product because at first glance it seems like the perfect deep conditioner for curly hair but it's a play on words "deep treatment". Felt like I should've known better afterward and can't tell folks you are natural hair care walking around smelling like a perm.


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  • KeenyliciousKeenylicious Registered Users Posts: 2,320 Curl Neophyte
    ttlolla wrote: »
    It is at the bottom of the list, so inactive and I read It's apparently meant to be a preservative .

    Don't quote me on that though
    i think it actually serves as a pH balancer.

    smelling like =/= having a perm...
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  • ttlollattlolla Registered Users Posts: 948 Curl Neophyte
    Keenylicious wrote: »
    ttlolla wrote: »
    It is at the bottom of the list, so inactive and I read It's apparently meant to be a preservative .

    Don't quote me on that though
    i think it actually serves as a pH balancer.

    smelling like =/= having a perm...

    Yea I also read that too . You said it better
  • franelpanafranelpana Registered Users Posts: 15
    Well, i'm just gonna keep cowashing the hair with that conditioner until i get a new one (hopefully in the next days) and when i get the suave naturals i'llwash my hair with shampoo since the pantene conditioner has cones. And the relaxing/perm thing, i don't really worry about it too much, theres nothing to relax anyway :P my hair doesn't curl yet, it's too short
  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Registered Users Posts: 872
    @Keenylicious
    It's a risk either way. If you try it you'll see what I'm talking about and I didn't understand why it made my scalp feel burned until I researched the ingredients. It could just be my sensitive skin but that perm smell is not what's up.

    2 things that will make me cut all my hair off is having that fried smell or that permed out smell.


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