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Colorful Neutral Protein Filler

IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
Sold at Sally's Beauty (and online), Colorful Neutral Protein Filler is keratin protein and wheat protein plus a few other ingredients.
It's a liquid, very water-like which you can add to FSG, gels, conditioners or even use straight out of the bottle.

In FSG, 3/4 to 1 teaspoon per cup of FSG is a good dose.

It's cheap and can add a nice protein punch to an otherwise satisfactory product.

Something protein-loving hair's owners should definitely know about!
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  • bluesheepbluesheep Posts: 300Registered Users
    Amazing - I was about to start a thread asking how people are using it. I bought some a while back and it's still languishing in the cabinet. In the thread about your PT, you had mentioned making a protein spray with it (something like SS?). Have you or anyone else tried this? What would you suggest in the way of proportions and additions? TIA!


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    Lowpoo:
    Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
    CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
    LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
    Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
    Love flour sack towels.
    Coconut oil = magic!
  • solidgoldsolidgold Posts: 1,485Registered Users
    I put the protein filler right into a spray bottle! I spray it on damp hair out of the shower before styling, and sometimes I use it as a refresher on dry hair.

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    2b/medium; CG 5/20/09
    Wash, co-wash, co: Queen Helene Royal Curl Shampoo / Conditioner, Kiehl's Amino Acid Shampoo / Conditioner, Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix, Tigi MM
    Stylers: Sally's Neutral Protein Filler as spray, Queen Helene Royal Curl Creme, LALSG
    Techniques: Plop and Diffuse
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  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
    See, bluesheep, here we are to read your mind! Creepy, huh? Time to bring the "CNPF" out of the cabinet.
  • missbanjomissbanjo Posts: 3,088Registered Users
    :goofy: I'm almost out of my CNPF and I bought the bigger bottle! It's ok tho, I've got the SS protein spray I can substitute for now since I'm not using it. :glasses1:
    Southern Colorado Curly
    Mix of 2s med-low porosity, med-fine texture, lots of hair
  • GreatcurlsGreatcurls Posts: 1,782Registered Users
    Hmmm...I'll check it out this weekend.
    Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
    This list is not exhaustive...:happy3:
    CoWash: various
    DT: various

    Leave-in
    : CR L/I Collection, various
    Stylers:MC Leave-in, Gorilla Snot
    Spritz/Sealant:Nu-Gro spray w/moisturizer
    *experimenting and loving it!
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Me too, prolly.
  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    Amazing! I'll have to check this out.
    4a/b Texlaxed hair w/ highlights. Medium texture & high porosity.

    HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

    SL APL BSL MBL
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Will it help post-color, too?

    I'm having a bit of an issue.
  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
    My understanding is that using a PT after your color your hair will fade the color. I'm not 100% sure why. Water pulls out dye because hair dyes are water soluble (reds are the most water-soluble). Protein is hygroscopic (water-attracting) so maybe that's part of it.

    Protein pre-coloring is supposed to help color "take."
  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    Everything I've read says to wait a bit - like 10 days before you do a PT.
    4a/b Texlaxed hair w/ highlights. Medium texture & high porosity.

    HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

    SL APL BSL MBL
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users
    My wimpy, ridiculously fine hair loves Neutral Protein Filler! Just using a few drops added to my conditioner on a pretty regular basis makes a hugh difference to my hair.

    I need to make sure it's well mixed in. The last time I used it, more came out than expected (new bottle), and between that and the large amount of conditioner already in my hand, I didn't get it as thoroughly mixed as I normally would. Since then, when my hair has finished drying, the side that got more of the NPF has appeared about an inch shorter than the other. I've got to get more on the side of my non-dominant hand next time.

    Or is this a sign that I need to do a more intensive PT all over my head?
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • bluesheepbluesheep Posts: 300Registered Users
    My wimpy, ridiculously fine hair loves Neutral Protein Filler! Just using a few drops added to my conditioner on a pretty regular basis makes a hugh difference to my hair.

    I need to make sure it's well mixed in. The last time I used it, more came out than expected (new bottle), and between that and the large amount of conditioner already in my hand, I didn't get it as thoroughly mixed as I normally would. Since then, when my hair has finished drying, the side that got more of the NPF has appeared about an inch shorter than the other. I've got to get more on the side of my non-dominant hand next time.

    Or is this a sign that I need to do a more intensive PT all over my head?

    It couldn't hurt to do a full PT. Or at least that's how it sounds - but I defer to IAgirl.


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    3b/3a, medium porosity, slightly coarse, high elasticity, high density. CG 2004; mod CG since 2006. CG again since 4/1/11.

    Lowpoo:
    Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
    CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
    LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
    Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
    Love flour sack towels.
    Coconut oil = magic!
  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    FYI, it helped.
  • bluesheepbluesheep Posts: 300Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    FYI, it helped.

    Good to know. How long has it been since you got your color done? I'm having mine done on Monday, and I'm thinking I should wait at least a week.

    And ninja, you're changing your avi like Cher changes costumes. It's so confusing!!! XD

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    3b/3a, medium porosity, slightly coarse, high elasticity, high density. CG 2004; mod CG since 2006. CG again since 4/1/11.

    Lowpoo:
    Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
    CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
    LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
    Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
    Love flour sack towels.
    Coconut oil = magic!
  • curlyserfcurlyserf Posts: 858Registered Users
    I add some to my GTTTT shampoo. Between using it a couple of times each week and using the Ion Reconstructor, I am definitely noticing a stronger wave/curl pattern to my hair.

    Kerri
    2?/3a ??? ; fine; high density; normal porosity and elasticity
    color treated

    CURRENTLY USING:
    cleanse:Organix Vanilla Silk, Use Me Cleansing Cream
    rinse out/li:Ion Effective Care, Tresseme Naturals Radiant Volume (both with NPF added)
    stylers:Curl Keeper, UFD Curly Magic, & Alba Botanicals Strong Hold Gel
    PT:CJ Repair Me

    mod CG since August 2010
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    bluesheep, I always change my avvie. It's rare for me to have the same one for more than a day.

    I used the Protein Filler to fix a bad (re: uneven) dye job. I redyed immediately, using the product for its original use. It improved things about 85 to 90 per cent. So: bad dye job on Friday; fix w/ filler & re-dye on Saturday.
  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    bluesheep, I always change my avvie. It's rare for me to have the same one for more than a day.

    I used the Protein Filler to fix a bad (re: uneven) dye job. I redyed immediately, using the product for its original use. It improved things about 85 to 90 per cent. So: bad dye job on Friday; fix w/ filler & re-dye on Saturday.

    That's pretty cool to be able to fix it all in one weekend. Imagine what you would have paid for that at a salon. Three cheers for DIY!

    OT: love your ever changing avi. Keeps us entertained.
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Thanks, IA. I know bluesheep didn't mean to be critical. And I love her sock monkey.

    I can't say it's 100 per cent improved, but it's a lot better than it was, fortunately. Next time I'm using the red version on the lighter part of my hair which isn't taking the usual penny color (what I am naturally) well. Not sure how I'll separate the sections (I have a shag), but as always, it's an interesting, if highly imprecise, process. (I am soaking it in Ion Repair Deep Conditioner as I write, btw.)

    Suggestions for effective separation welcome! Foil?
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users
    Yeah, I did the PT last evening. There isn't a change in the visual length of my hair. So now I'm thinking that the problem is that my part has shifted. I'll do another PT in a week, and if that doesn't make a difference, I'll even things up with a trim since I like where my part is now.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • bluesheepbluesheep Posts: 300Registered Users
    ninja dog wrote: »
    Thanks, IA. I know bluesheep didn't mean to be critical. And I love her sock monkey.

    I can't say it's 100 per cent improved, but it's a lot better than it was, fortunately. Next time I'm using the red version on the lighter part of my hair which isn't taking the usual penny color (what I am naturally) well. Not sure how I'll separate the sections (I have a shag), but as always, it's an interesting, if highly imprecise, process. (I am soaking it in Ion Repair Deep Conditioner as I write, btw.)

    Suggestions for effective separation welcome! Foil?

    Awww, thanks! That's my friend Luther. Handsome devil, isn't he? And I'm glad you understood I didn't mean to sound critical - I was actually joking. That's why I made the comparison to Cher. :mrgreen: Although I have to say I did love "Keep Calm"....

    And I think I'd use foils for separation. Maybe someone else has other ideas, though. Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.

    ETA: Does anyone know why CNPT only comes in puny 1.2oz or 4oz. sizes? Just curious...
    3b/3a, medium porosity, slightly coarse, high elasticity, high density. CG 2004; mod CG since 2006. CG again since 4/1/11.

    Lowpoo:
    Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
    CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
    LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
    Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
    Love flour sack towels.
    Coconut oil = magic!
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    That's bugging me too (the size limitations).
  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    You can get it in 16 oz sizes. Colorful Protein Filler
    4a/b Texlaxed hair w/ highlights. Medium texture & high porosity.

    HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

    SL APL BSL MBL
  • kasdenkasden Posts: 1,040Registered Users
    Yay for 16 oz! The shipping is crazy expensive...but I found it here: adiscountbeauty.com for about $10 cheaper!

    pssst...ninja and bluesheep: have you read Sock Monkey Goes to Hollywood? :laughing5:
    2c/3a, fine, low-med porosity, below BSL, mod CG since 9/09

    "I'm fairly certain that given a cape and a nice tiara, I could save the world." - Leigh Standley
  • bluesheepbluesheep Posts: 300Registered Users
    kasden wrote: »
    Yay for 16 oz! The shipping is crazy expensive...but I found it here: adiscountbeauty.com for about $10 cheaper!

    pssst...ninja and bluesheep: have you read Sock Monkey Goes to Hollywood? :laughing5:

    Awesome! Luther is demanding it (along with the fez I promised him ages ago).

    And thanks for the tip about adiscountbeauty.com - that shipping was insane!
    3b/3a, medium porosity, slightly coarse, high elasticity, high density. CG 2004; mod CG since 2006. CG again since 4/1/11.

    Lowpoo:
    Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
    CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
    LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
    Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
    Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
    Love flour sack towels.
    Coconut oil = magic!
  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
    Hey, thanks for the cheap CNPF location. I HATE $7+ shipping.

    I know you didn't mean to be critical, bluesheep! Gals here are so polite.
    I just mean us kids need a little entertainment. Ooh, what guide will Ninjadog be in today. It gives her a superheroine aura.

    Well, that and her penny-colored shag.
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Aw, shucks. You gals are swell.

    Yes! Luther needs a fez! I have a small one I put on my little anatomy man (a guy who comes apart like a puzzle of the human anatomy). It's an oddly useful item.

    I am going to buy a small red red and conduct an experiment this week. Will report on all results. :salut:

    p.s. kas, going to look for sock monkey goes to hollywood from the library right now. (And....found and reserved. Yay!)
  • kasdenkasden Posts: 1,040Registered Users
    ^Yay!!! Read it out loud to Sadie-Kate - she'll LOVE it!!! Luther will love it, too!!!
    2c/3a, fine, low-med porosity, below BSL, mod CG since 9/09

    "I'm fairly certain that given a cape and a nice tiara, I could save the world." - Leigh Standley
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users
    Will I need to check it first for adult content?
  • kasdenkasden Posts: 1,040Registered Users
    Silly little red-headed girl! It's a children's book.
    2c/3a, fine, low-med porosity, below BSL, mod CG since 9/09

    "I'm fairly certain that given a cape and a nice tiara, I could save the world." - Leigh Standley
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