CG is gross now!

Hair comes up in conversation sometimes. CG comes up sometimes too, but now I'm not too keen on mentioning it.
My grandparents, my birthparents, and my other family members think I'm absolutely DISGUSTING because I don't use shampoo. No matter how many times I explain CG to them, they're always revolted. In fact, when I told my grandma she said something among the lines of, "Oh my god, I'm about to throw up." She complimented me on my hair that morning.
This happens with friends too. I'm sick of everyone thinking I'm gross because I don't load chemicals into my hair, regardless of my countless explanations. Today, my friend said to me, "That's not right." My best friend of eight years said, "You do know conditioner is just putting grease in your hair, right?" I get nothing but criticism all the time for the method I use to control my locks. My CURLY-HAIRED FRIEND even told me that I was wrong and horrifying in my haircare and that I should use shampoo. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COMPLIMENT ME ON MY HAIR REGULARLY.
I just can't stand it anymore. Does anyone else deal with this?
My grandparents, my birthparents, and my other family members think I'm absolutely DISGUSTING because I don't use shampoo. No matter how many times I explain CG to them, they're always revolted. In fact, when I told my grandma she said something among the lines of, "Oh my god, I'm about to throw up." She complimented me on my hair that morning.
This happens with friends too. I'm sick of everyone thinking I'm gross because I don't load chemicals into my hair, regardless of my countless explanations. Today, my friend said to me, "That's not right." My best friend of eight years said, "You do know conditioner is just putting grease in your hair, right?" I get nothing but criticism all the time for the method I use to control my locks. My CURLY-HAIRED FRIEND even told me that I was wrong and horrifying in my haircare and that I should use shampoo. ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COMPLIMENT ME ON MY HAIR REGULARLY.
I just can't stand it anymore. Does anyone else deal with this?
3a. Hiiiigh porosity. ii density. Fine.
Co-Wash: Suave Naturals Coconut/VO5 Tea Therapy.
Detangle: Renpure Organics My Pretty Hair is Parched!/Suave Naturals Coconut/VO5 Tea Therapy.
Leave-In: Aussie 3 Minute Miracle.
Gel: LA Looks Sport or Fantasia IC Hair Polisher Styling Gel.
Co-Wash: Suave Naturals Coconut/VO5 Tea Therapy.
Detangle: Renpure Organics My Pretty Hair is Parched!/Suave Naturals Coconut/VO5 Tea Therapy.
Leave-In: Aussie 3 Minute Miracle.
Gel: LA Looks Sport or Fantasia IC Hair Polisher Styling Gel.

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3b, thick, angled bob, coarse, low(ish) porosity.
Favs:
Poo (when I get buildup): Bumble&Bumble Curly Shampoo
Lo-poo: L'Oreal EverCurl Cleansing Conditioner
LI: Aveda Be Curly Prep
Stylin': Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer for a natural full-bodied look, SheaMoisture Smoothie for finger curls.
I admit I was a little daunted when I first read about CG and wondered if co-washing would actually work, thinking only shampoo alone could cleanse the scalp. I'm really glad I gave it a chance now and haven't looked back.
It does make me laugh how people compliment how your hair looks visually, but once they realise you haven't gone down the 'conventional' route to look that way, it throws them off balance! (I bet a lot of people thought Lorraine Massey was crazy when she first came up with the CG idea, but look at the following she has now!)
Curl type : Boticelli, 3a, loose curls
Porosity : High
Texture : Fine/medium (I think!)
Co-wash/rinse out/leave in : L'oreal Full Restore 5, GFR&S, Schwarzkopf Bio Pomegranite
Gels : Umberto Giannini Flirty Curls Scrunching Jelly
Finish product : Boots Naked Style Frizz Fighter Serum or a pea-sized blob of condish smoothed over canopy
CG since Feb 2011
I was at the 2009 and 2011 BCS National Championship Games
Medium-coarse, super high density, normal porosity, low elasticity.
I'm currently trying out various Curl Junkie and Devacurl products.
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The nice thing about being older is that you come to realize that the opinions of uninformed individuals who have no idea what they are talking about are not important.:blah5::blah5::blah5:
When they don't have (or deny) curly hair, haven't tried it, but still have an opinion on it, based on little more than cultural indoctrination, who cares what they think?
Cowash-vo5/Sauve, RO-GVP Condish Balm/ION Effective Care, LI- AOHR/GVP condish balm w/drop of honey, styler-AG:Recoil, Gel-LALSG, BRHG
Last relaxer: Not sure. 3/08 or 4/08
BC'd: 9/18/09
Co-wash: Suave Naturals, HEHH, Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle, CJ Daily Fix
Leave-In: KCKT, Giovanni Direct Leave-In, CJ Smoothing Lotion
Stylers: ORS Twist and Loc Gel, KCCC, Ecostyler, SheaMoisture Deep Treatment Masque
Deep Conditioner: DevaCurl Heaven In Hair, CJ Deep Fix
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Texture: Fine
Porosity: Normal
Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut
RO: GVP CB
Styling: As I Am Leave In, Jessicurl Rockin' Ringlets & Confident Coils, DevaCurl Set Me Up, Curl Keeper
Gel: Ecostyler Olive Oil, BioSilk RHG
Your friend has a point. Using some conditioners is like putting grease in your hair because many of them are loaded with oils, waxes and silicones. However, it seems that she is oblivious to the fact that not all conditioners are created equal.
The conditioners in your siggy are great for co-washing! None of them contain heavy oils and they both appear to have a large amount of surfactants in them. Many people do not realise that the surfactants in many conditioners have the ability to remove dirt and excess sebum, therefore cleaning the hair and conditioning it at the same time. I think your friends and family just need a little educating about co-washing.
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3b, thick, angled bob, coarse, low(ish) porosity.
Favs:
Poo (when I get buildup): Bumble&Bumble Curly Shampoo
Lo-poo: L'Oreal EverCurl Cleansing Conditioner
LI: Aveda Be Curly Prep
Stylin': Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer for a natural full-bodied look, SheaMoisture Smoothie for finger curls.
The following surfactants are commonly found in conditioners:
- Cetearyl alcohol (CosIng - Cosmetics - Health and Consumers - European Commission: Ingredient/Substance Details)
- Cetyl alcohol (CosIng - Cosmetics - Health and Consumers - European Commission: Ingredient/Substance Details)
- Cetrimonium Chloride (CosIng - Cosmetics - Health and Consumers - European Commission: Ingredient/Substance Details)
- Behentrimonium Methosulfate (CosIng - Cosmetics - Health and Consumers - European Commission: Ingredient/Substance Details)
However, if there are too much oils or butters in the formulation the surfactants will not do a great job at cleaning the hair.
There are a lot more Surfactants out there. You can check out Cosing for more information.
Behentrimonium methosulfate is my personal favourite because it detangles as well as cleanses. The link to Cosing indicates that it is a hair conditioner as well as a surfactant.
Kinky Kurly Knot Today is the best conditioner that I have ever used for co-washing. It contains Behentrimonium Methosulfate and Cetyl alcohol and it really gets my hair clean while detangling it at the same time.
I have never used the conditioners in the OP's siggy but I checked out the ingredients and they seem great for co-washing.
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3b, thick, angled bob, coarse, low(ish) porosity.
Favs:
Poo (when I get buildup): Bumble&Bumble Curly Shampoo
Lo-poo: L'Oreal EverCurl Cleansing Conditioner
LI: Aveda Be Curly Prep
Stylin': Aveda Be Curly Curl Enhancer for a natural full-bodied look, SheaMoisture Smoothie for finger curls.
Needless to say, I am utterly discouraged right now...I think we all know the feeling. My friends all know and love my hair, but my whole family besides my brother is so critical. I don't know who else to turn to, cause I have no idea who else does this routine irl. I'm just...ugh, you know how awful it is to feel estatic about your new curls, FINALLY feeling good about the way you look, and then someone just pulls you to the ground and tramples all over you?
...I just feel...ugh.
I kept falling off the cg wagon but finally started properly as of July 2010
I use tresemme naturals condish, liveclean argan oil and argan oil leave-in condish and curl keeper!:angel9:
Canadian-raised Filipino!
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:confused3: I'm sorry to hear that your family aren't supportive of your decision to go CG. Don't let it put you off, people who do not understand the concept are shocked (which is understandable when we are indoctrined to believe in the shampoo and condition routine). Unless your folks bring the subject up, I wouldn't mention it to them and just carry on quietly doing what you do, safe in the knowledge that you are actually doing your beautiful curls a favour.
Your curls ARE gorgeous by the way!
Curl type : Boticelli, 3a, loose curls
Porosity : High
Texture : Fine/medium (I think!)
Co-wash/rinse out/leave in : L'oreal Full Restore 5, GFR&S, Schwarzkopf Bio Pomegranite
Gels : Umberto Giannini Flirty Curls Scrunching Jelly
Finish product : Boots Naked Style Frizz Fighter Serum or a pea-sized blob of condish smoothed over canopy
CG since Feb 2011
Doing the no-poo for now...
No-poo: EO coconut conditioner
LI: dab of EO coconut conditioner & Aveeno leave-in treatment
Curl enhancers/gel: CCCCL, FSG and CIAB
EVCO as shine serum
PT/DT: trying various combos
Methods/techniques: variations of icequeen and supersoaking, sometimes pixie diffuse, sometimes plop, but still looking for the magic combo.
Why do you tell them?
You're hair is really pretty, the color too.
Currently using: Kinky Curly Knot today leave-in and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
oh me oh my, i knoe EXACTLY what yure talking about. annoying a heck. i wish people would be more openminded
oil:coconut oil and olive oil
everything else: in need of suggestions!
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I'm so sorry CCC. I know what that can be like. Moms have a way of cutting you to the quick in a way no one else can. I'm in my early 40s and my mom can STILL get me once in a while. I've always been "different". Luckily, my mom and family eventually learned to appreciate that.
Try to remember that she loves you and *thinks* she knows what's best for you. She's doing the wrong thing, but with the right intentions. That said, blow it off. You know what's right for your hair. Keep doing what you're doing and ignore the criticism. Short of dragging you into the shower and forcibly shampooing your hair, no one can stop you. Just don't say anything more about it. Your mom may come around. Or not. Either way, you always have us, and your beautiful hair.
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Lowpoo: Gudonya Salty Dawg (etsy), SM Moisture Retention
CO: Gudonya Intense (etsy), SM Restorative, Tresemme Naturals
LI: Gudonya IHC, SMCH Milk, Tresemme Nat, Biotera LI
Stylers (current rotation): AVG/H20 spray, Eco Styler, EVCO, SMCH smoothie and mist, La Bella LoC, ORS Lock & Twist.
Homemade DTs, PTs and Pre-Poos
Love flour sack towels.
Coconut oil = magic!
I just hope to find someone that I can encourage to join me so I'm not totally alone. Glad to have you curlies here with me
I kept falling off the cg wagon but finally started properly as of July 2010
I use tresemme naturals condish, liveclean argan oil and argan oil leave-in condish and curl keeper!:angel9:
Canadian-raised Filipino!
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:cheers:
I have gotten some odd looks and negative comments, so my standard response now is that I have started using sulfate free shampoo and looking more carefully at the ingredients in the products I use. They don't need to know that I only use the shampoo on my scalp or that I cleanse with only conditioner most days.
Hair style is the final tip-off whether or not a woman really knows herself.
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(Finding myself via CG :read2:)
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2b-3b and a little of everything in between.
Texture: fine-medium
Porosity: slightly high
Elasticity: lowish
Nothing about my hair fits nicely into any category.
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Even now doctors are advising people with dry skin to was less or only wash certain parts. This is just the skin I'm talking about. So I don't understand why showering and only using conditioner on the hair is deemed to be so gross and nasty.
HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils
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Interesting that you say this. As far as I know I'm of mostly southern European and Irish descent, and when I tell people (excluding family) I don't use shampoo and I only wash my hair every other day, they usually say that I shouldn't be doing it that way because I'm white and "only black people can get away with not washing their hair with shampoo and everyday." I also buy my mousse in the section of the store labeled "ethnic hair care" and I've picked up some weird looks and one person (another curly white lady) told me "those products don't work for us, they're only for black women with curls." Too bad I've been using that mousse for half a year with great results. Anyway, point is I thought it was interesting how this seemed to go both ways.
And yeah, I don't get into my routine or products anymore, people have said it's gross too many times.
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2B/2C hair! :thumbup:
Shampoo: GTTT, SheaMoisture
Condish Tresemme naturals, GFTN
DT: Lustrasilk + honey
LI: KCKT, GVP CB
Styling products: Ouidad CC, TIGI Catwalk, KCCC, PaulMitchell Sculpting Foam
Oils: Coconut
I made it! Tailbone length stretched, WL curly
Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.
I've been CG for about a month now, and even though it's given me the frizz-free moist curls I never knew I could have, I've never really felt the need to discuss it with anyone. I don't think anyone outside other curlies is that interested in my hair, lol! It's just never come up in conversation, and I prefer it that way because I understand entirely the "EWW GROOOOSSS" reactions people have been getting when they do talk about it.
I think Western society is just obsessed with hygiene and suds and soap are a huge part of that. It's instilled in us from such a young age that bubbles/suds/soap is the only way to clean stuff that it's really no wonder people don't understand (and maybe get a little upset) when you confront them with the idea that, wow - maybe something they've lived by and trusted in for so long isn't gospel after all.
Kind of OT, but...didn't women used to use cold cream to cleanse their faces of make-up? And aren't stores full of, not just foaming cleansers, but cleansing milks and creams for dry skin? So, for dry hair, doesn't it make sense that a kind of cleansing cream/conditioner will work just fine too...?
I don't mean to offense someone. Please understand me right even if it's not so easy due to my typos:) I come from russia and I could never imagine before, that someone could find curls messy, ugly or would assume not to comb properly. All my life I only hear, my hair was a gift given me by nature and I should be lucky to wear it curly etc. And my hair is not nearly as good and healthy looking as yours. Ok, such curls are pretty untypical for russians, who have mostly just a kind of loose waves. But nevertheless, nobody cares if it's enough to use only a conditioner or not.
You're very strong personalities, guys, cos you deal with abusing and outcast day by day and still follow your pavements
CG Since 7/2/2011
In Between 2c & 3a
CONDISH- Sally's Generic value products conditioning balm
LEAVE IN- KCKT
STYLE- Ice Queen method
GELS- LA Looks Absolute styling sport // IC hair polisher styling gel with sparkle lites
HG- KCC = AMAZING! My secret weapon!
FINISH- Plop // Pixiecurl diffuser method (on occasion)
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