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Dry conditioner method

katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
After a few tries with stretched styles to combat shrinkage (band-out on a WnG and twists on dry hair) that completely FAILED (my hair started out big and fluffy exactly how I wanted it, then it shrunk back to it's normal size)

Maybe it's the humidity here in NYC but I cannot seem to get my stretched styles to stay stretched and not shrink. I tried a twist-out on dry hair, which looked great...until I walked outside and it shrank to smaller than my normal WnG and tangled into something fierce.
So what I've been doing lately is putting (a lot) of conditioner in sections while my hair is dry, detangling piece by piece, putting it up in a baggied bun. I'll sleep on it, then when I wake up, take it down, shake, and go.

So far this has been the only way to keep shrinkage at bay. It clumps amazingly and I'm having the best hair day imaginable. I will have to tweak it some because there has been some flaking. I'm also a little worried about build-up so I may have to actually start shampooing my hair (I typically don't lol). But other than that I love the way my hair looks,

Have you guys tried this? If so, which conditioner do you use?
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aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
long aid activator gel
random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
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  • shadyFLEXshadyFLEX Posts: 7Registered Users
    Do you use a leave-in conditioner or do you just leave in a conditioner that you would normally rinse out?

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  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    shadyFLEX wrote: »
    Do you use a leave-in conditioner or do you just leave in a conditioner that you would normally rinse out?

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    A rinse-out. This time I used Tresemme smoothing something-or-other. I think it's best to use a really thick and creamy one. Aussie 3min miracle works too
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • shadyFLEXshadyFLEX Posts: 7Registered Users
    Thanx, I should try it out!

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  • The New BlackThe New Black Posts: 16,738Registered Users
    cool idea
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  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users
    I may have to try that for my next WnG. My hair tangles like crazy too.
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  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    I may have to try that for my next WnG. My hair tangles like crazy too.

    From what I gather, it works on dry hair. So I'll do a WnG one day and the next night once my hair is completely dry.


    And I forgot to add in the first post, I only finger-comb while I'm distributing the conditioner
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users
    I may have to try that for my next WnG. My hair tangles like crazy too.

    From what I gather, it works on dry hair. So I'll do a WnG one day and the next night once my hair is completely dry.


    And I forgot to add in the first post, I only finger-comb while I'm distributing the conditioner

    Thanks for the heads up!
    APL BSL MBL WL HL TBL | porous, fine/medium strands, medium density
    My Fotki!
    Below: Typical PS bun
    004-vi.jpg
  • nana_banananana_banana Posts: 735Registered Users
    I'm going to try this tonight. :)
    Hair type: Mostly 3C, medium porosity to high porosity depending on the day, dense, fluffy, dry, tangly!



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  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    Update:

    Just washed today and I'm really happy with this method!!

    On the first day (as explained above) I put (a lot) of conditioner (smoothing tressemme ) on my hair in sections, gently finger detangled, bunned overnight and let dry the next day.

    My hair has been so perfect and the 'style' lasted 3 days. I'm sure that it would have lasted a week had I not washed it today, but I had too bc I put waaaaaay too much conditioner in and it was flaking something serious, which was getting on my nerves.

    My wash was amazing! I barely had any tangles (I guess the conditioner 'set' my detangled hair and it just kind of stayed like that:love5:) And my hair felt so healthy while the water was coursing through it. Tonight I'm going to add oil to the bottle just for fun. But I'm def not going to use as much conditioner as last time bc those flakes were no joke.

    Another note: I've posted on this board before about how labor-intensive it is to saturate my hair with water under the shower stream. When I first rinsed today, the water was able to go straight to my scalp and my hair was wet almost instantly (this is a HUGE deal to me). So the theory I'm working on is that my WnG causes my massive amounts of hair to shrink together to form this impenetrable barrier that makes it hard for water to get through.

    This literally has just made my life so much easier
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users
    I did a variation of your method last night by saturating my hair with conditioner (Natures Gate Asian Pear & Red Tea) and sealed with an oil/butter blend) and baggying it. My hair was so soft this morning! I ended up putting it back in a bun for the Summer Bun Challenge in 3c.
    APL BSL MBL WL HL TBL | porous, fine/medium strands, medium density
    My Fotki!
    Below: Typical PS bun
    004-vi.jpg
  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    I did a variation of your method last night by saturating my hair with conditioner (Natures Gate Asian Pear & Red Tea) and sealed with an oil/butter blend) and baggying it. My hair was so soft this morning! I ended up putting it back in a bun for the Summer Bun Challenge in 3c.

    Did the Nature's Gate give you any flakes? I may try that one
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users
    I did a variation of your method last night by saturating my hair with conditioner (Natures Gate Asian Pear & Red Tea) and sealed with an oil/butter blend) and baggying it. My hair was so soft this morning! I ended up putting it back in a bun for the Summer Bun Challenge in 3c.

    Did the Nature's Gate give you any flakes? I may try that one

    No flakes. Though I did seal with an oil - that may have helped.
    APL BSL MBL WL HL TBL | porous, fine/medium strands, medium density
    My Fotki!
    Below: Typical PS bun
    004-vi.jpg
  • *Marah**Marah* Posts: 8,032Registered Users
    I saw this lady on YT recently talk about how she put conditioner in her hair BEFORE she got in the shower to wash it.... I had read about this in the 2nd Curly Girl book and blew it off...cause I have high porosity hair..

    Well I decided to try it.. wow..it really works well for detangling to put the conditioner in before you wet your hair.

    I can't do the leaving conditioner in with the baggy and all that though.. my scalp will act a damn fool. It likes to breathe.
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  • nubiana30nubiana30 Posts: 39Registered Users
    I saw this lady on YT recently talk about how she put conditioner in her hair BEFORE she got in the shower to wash it.... I had read about this in the 2nd Curly Girl book and blew it off...cause I have high porosity hair..

    Well I decided to try it.. wow..it really works well for detangling to put the conditioner in before you wet your hair.


    I can't do the leaving conditioner in with the baggy and all that though.. my scalp will act a damn fool. It likes to breathe.

    +1 at bolded. I also saw someone on YT doing that. Ever since that time I generally saturate my hair with conditioner section by section before washing and de-tangle each section.( I have low porosity hair) Then I wash my hair, DC, rinse and use my leave in. The pre-conditioning works wonders for me and I hardly get tangles.
    Hair type: 4a, I believe
    Hair Texture: Thick, coarse, coily
    Low porosity

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  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users
    nubiana30 wrote: »
    I saw this lady on YT recently talk about how she put conditioner in her hair BEFORE she got in the shower to wash it.... I had read about this in the 2nd Curly Girl book and blew it off...cause I have high porosity hair..

    Well I decided to try it.. wow..it really works well for detangling to put the conditioner in before you wet your hair.


    I can't do the leaving conditioner in with the baggy and all that though.. my scalp will act a damn fool. It likes to breathe.

    +1 at bolded. I also saw someone on YT doing that. Ever since that time I generally saturate my hair with conditioner section by section before washing and de-tangle each section.( I have low porosity hair) Then I wash my hair, DC, rinse and use my leave in. The pre-conditioning works wonders for me and I hardly get tangles.


    I recently started doing to that to my hair too and it works beautifully. I mix some sort of oil with my conditioners and let it sit for a short while before detangling. My hair is naturally very porous so it drinks it up. I end up using more conditioner because I condition or DT after washing as well, but its worth it.
    APL BSL MBL WL HL TBL | porous, fine/medium strands, medium density
    My Fotki!
    Below: Typical PS bun
    004-vi.jpg
  • ttlollattlolla Posts: 948Registered Users
    I have to try this on Sunday , why I'm I excited ? :D
  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    I saw this lady on YT recently talk about how she put conditioner in her hair BEFORE she got in the shower to wash it.... I had read about this in the 2nd Curly Girl book and blew it off...cause I have high porosity hair..

    Well I decided to try it.. wow..it really works well for detangling to put the conditioner in before you wet your hair.

    I can't do the leaving conditioner in with the baggy and all that though.. my scalp will act a damn fool. It likes to breathe.

    I'm glad it works for you with washing! I know that dry hair will soak in conditioner better than wet. And, wetting hair makes it more prone to tangle...I feel like (slightly) more breakage will occur from wet detangling than dry+conditioner. Even if I don't continue with this WHOLE process, this detangling part will remain a staple in my routine.
    But I don't baggy over my whole head. I put my hair up in a high bun and baggy over the bun. This way my roots get stretched out and once I take the baggy off in the morning my curls are clumped together really nicely.

    BTW: Last night when I started over I mixed the Tresemme Smooth&Silky with Suave Coco, some coconut oil and some almond oil and NO MORE FLAKES:sunny: thanks for the tip @greenandchic
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • NoodleNapsNoodleNaps Posts: 463Registered Users
    nubiana30 wrote: »
    I saw this lady on YT recently talk about how she put conditioner in her hair BEFORE she got in the shower to wash it.... I had read about this in the 2nd Curly Girl book and blew it off...cause I have high porosity hair..

    Well I decided to try it.. wow..it really works well for detangling to put the conditioner in before you wet your hair.


    I can't do the leaving conditioner in with the baggy and all that though.. my scalp will act a damn fool. It likes to breathe.

    +1 at bolded. I also saw someone on YT doing that. Ever since that time I generally saturate my hair with conditioner section by section before washing and de-tangle each section.( I have low porosity hair) Then I wash my hair, DC, rinse and use my leave in. The pre-conditioning works wonders for me and I hardly get tangles.


    I recently started doing to that to my hair too and it works beautifully. I mix some sort of oil with my conditioners and let it sit for a short while before detangling. My hair is naturally very porous so it drinks it up. I end up using more conditioner because I condition or DT after washing as well, but its worth it.

    I generally DC my hair BEFORE I wash. I put my DC on dry hair, leave it in as long as I want to, then finger detangle, rinse, cowash or shampoo, and then comb through my rinse-out conditioner. I do use loads of conditioner, but it works for me.

    OP, I spend half my time in west africa and have to deal with the humidity shrinkage issues you mentioned, so I am going to try out this method and see how it works for me.
    Products in current rotation:

    Terressentials Pure Earth Mud Wash; Elucence MBC (now really just for cowashing, leg shaving or emergencies); Curl Junkie: Repair Me, Deep Fix, Curl Rehab; AOHSR (retiring); Oyin Handmade: Honey Hemp, Hair Dew, J&B; Qhemet Biologics: BRBC (retiring- prefer Oyin HD), AOHC, OHHB; Jojoba Oil for scalp; Castor Oil or Shea butter to seal; Henna & Ayurvedic pastes when I can be bothered.

    Still searching for the perfect stylers, but loving CJ CIAB over everything so far
  • nana_banananana_banana Posts: 735Registered Users
    Okay, so my hair wasn't stretched when I tried this (I tried it twice) but let me tell you, it's an excellent way to achieve better looking second day hair. I normally "can't" do second day hair but I was able to with this method.
    Hair type: Mostly 3C, medium porosity to high porosity depending on the day, dense, fluffy, dry, tangly!



    :afro:
  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    NoodleNaps wrote: »
    nubiana30 wrote: »

    +1 at bolded. I also saw someone on YT doing that. Ever since that time I generally saturate my hair with conditioner section by section before washing and de-tangle each section.( I have low porosity hair) Then I wash my hair, DC, rinse and use my leave in. The pre-conditioning works wonders for me and I hardly get tangles.


    I recently started doing to that to my hair too and it works beautifully. I mix some sort of oil with my conditioners and let it sit for a short while before detangling. My hair is naturally very porous so it drinks it up. I end up using more conditioner because I condition or DT after washing as well, but its worth it.

    I generally DC my hair BEFORE I wash. I put my DC on dry hair, leave it in as long as I want to, then finger detangle, rinse, cowash or shampoo, and then comb through my rinse-out conditioner. I do use loads of conditioner, but it works for me.

    OP, I spend half my time in west africa and have to deal with the humidity shrinkage issues you mentioned, so I am going to try out this method and see how it works for me.

    I've been DTing on dry hair for years...I don't know how it's taken me so long to figure this out lol. My hair drinks up moisture too, maybe that's why this so works so well.
    What I really like about this is that it only requires 2 products (conditioner and oil). No gels, leave-ins, curl creams, moisturizers etc. I've been on the search to make my hair regimen more budget friendly and I think this is the answer.:iconbiggrin:
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    Okay, so my hair wasn't stretched when I tried this (I tried it twice) but let me tell you, it's an excellent way to achieve better looking second day hair. I normally "can't" do second day hair but I was able to with this method.

    When I did this I stretched my hair (well just the roots) myself by bunning overnight. then the length dried into nice clumped curls Did you try that? And I'm really happy with how long it lasts. I plan on being able to get at least 4 days out of this
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • quietstormquietstorm Posts: 148Registered Users
    I may try this soon, it sounds like a good way to lock in moisture.
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  • laniseworkslaniseworks Posts: 170Registered Users
    I saw this lady on YT recently talk about how she put conditioner in her hair BEFORE she got in the shower to wash it.... I had read about this in the 2nd Curly Girl book and blew it off...cause I have high porosity hair..

    Well I decided to try it.. wow..it really works well for detangling to put the conditioner in before you wet your hair.

    I tried this by chance a couple months ago and I love it! I did it to help protect my hair from the shampoo bar I was using and it made my hair so much easier to detangle and softer.


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  • nana_banananana_banana Posts: 735Registered Users
    Okay, so my hair wasn't stretched when I tried this (I tried it twice) but let me tell you, it's an excellent way to achieve better looking second day hair. I normally "can't" do second day hair but I was able to with this method.

    When I did this I stretched my hair (well just the roots) myself by bunning overnight. then the length dried into nice clumped curls Did you try that? And I'm really happy with how long it lasts. I plan on being able to get at least 4 days out of this

    I definitely got the clumpy curls. I don't really stretch my hair but I might try stretching ad using this method.
    Hair type: Mostly 3C, medium porosity to high porosity depending on the day, dense, fluffy, dry, tangly!



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  • La RizadaLa Rizada Posts: 11Registered Users
    This method definitely works! I did it during the 1st year after my BC then I slipped off the bandwagon and started using gels.
    I'm weening myself off daily usage of ECO OO now and going back to this because my hair is now much longer but has crazy tangles becos its so dry.

    Thanks for the Tressemme oil mix tip! I was really worried about the flakes too!:thumbleft::thumbleft:
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  • bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
    Take it from a conditioner junkie, that is all I really use nowadays when I wear my hair curly. For a sleek bun I put in conditioner, to refresh curls after it gets screwed up I detangle a bit with conditioner leave it in til the next day then wham! Awesome hair. Dry hair + conditioner = amazing. Hell I don't even detangle on wash days with water...just Conditioner.
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  • NoodleNapsNoodleNaps Posts: 463Registered Users
    I'm finally going to try this tonight as am rocking a wash 'n' go at the moment. I used Ecostyler OO gel though, so basically before I go to bed do I just put some conditioner on over the top, bun, baggy and that's it? Or have you ladies normally been doing this when you have not used a gel/styler in your hair beforehand?
    Products in current rotation:

    Terressentials Pure Earth Mud Wash; Elucence MBC (now really just for cowashing, leg shaving or emergencies); Curl Junkie: Repair Me, Deep Fix, Curl Rehab; AOHSR (retiring); Oyin Handmade: Honey Hemp, Hair Dew, J&B; Qhemet Biologics: BRBC (retiring- prefer Oyin HD), AOHC, OHHB; Jojoba Oil for scalp; Castor Oil or Shea butter to seal; Henna & Ayurvedic pastes when I can be bothered.

    Still searching for the perfect stylers, but loving CJ CIAB over everything so far
  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    I think I may have layered it over a 3+ day old WnG out of laziness. But that was after the gel had already "died" out of my hair so to speak. What I've been doing lately is rinse-washing then towel blotting (regular terry-cloth towel...yes I know they're not good) so my hair is 90% dry and then going through with the conditioner. You could try that to get the product out of your hair first...or try layering it. keep us updated :)
    3c/4a fotki [update 4/18/09]
    blog
    approaching BSL
    BC 4/26/08! Last relaxer April '07

    :wav:
    aussie moist /suave coconut conditioner (cowash/leave-in)
    long aid activator gel
    random condish+honey+olive oil+cocnut milk+whole milk+conditioner (DT)
    finger combing>>>>Tangle Teaser
  • NoodleNapsNoodleNaps Posts: 463Registered Users
    I think I may have layered it over a 3+ day old WnG out of laziness. But that was after the gel had already "died" out of my hair so to speak. What I've been doing lately is rinse-washing then towel blotting (regular terry-cloth towel...yes I know they're not good) so my hair is 90% dry and then going through with the conditioner. You could try that to get the product out of your hair first...or try layering it. keep us updated :)

    Oh, ok I see.

    Alright, well I'll try layering tonight, and then try your method when I next wash (which might be tomorrow, depending on how disastrous this is :laughing6:)
    Products in current rotation:

    Terressentials Pure Earth Mud Wash; Elucence MBC (now really just for cowashing, leg shaving or emergencies); Curl Junkie: Repair Me, Deep Fix, Curl Rehab; AOHSR (retiring); Oyin Handmade: Honey Hemp, Hair Dew, J&B; Qhemet Biologics: BRBC (retiring- prefer Oyin HD), AOHC, OHHB; Jojoba Oil for scalp; Castor Oil or Shea butter to seal; Henna & Ayurvedic pastes when I can be bothered.

    Still searching for the perfect stylers, but loving CJ CIAB over everything so far
  • evelynnalfredevelynnalfred Posts: 324Registered Users
    I'm going to try this because my wet wash and go situation is the worst.
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