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SO wrong! 67-year-old mother gives birth to twins

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  • x_tigerlilyx_tigerlily Posts: 432Registered Users
    What a selfish woman.
    3C/4A and too long to handle (and afford!)
  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    Why is she a selfish woman?
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  • KaiaKaia Posts: 8,815Registered Users
    Why exactly would you question what kind of a mother she would be? Are you saying older people are not capable of being good parents? Or do you think she's so old she could die any day, leaving her children orphaned? If she gave birth at this age, I would imagine she's in pretty good health and has many good years ahead of her. I think the risks of birth defects are too high at that age, but that's my personal belief that I would not impose on others. Some people think any woman that gets pregnant after 35 is selfish and irresponsible, but we really have no right to judge. If this woman went through as much as she did to have these children, I think that shows she wanted them very badly and will be a good mother to them.
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  • DiscgirlDiscgirl Posts: 746Registered Users
    You could get hit by a bus ande die or become physically disabled tomorrow. There are many physically disabled people who are wonderful parents. There can be and are many absolutely crap 25 & 30 yo parents. There are many good poor parents. There are many 30 yo women who don't get pregnant without medical help. There are many infertile couples who use surrogates or adopt.

    See my poiint?
  • Hairblogger â„¢Hairblogger â„¢ Posts: 564Registered Users
    Wow, that is really incredible that the doctors would approve the procedure on a woman over 50 because the risks to both baby and mum after that age are magnified.

    But, maybe she wasn't in a position until later (financially and technology wise) to be able to concieve at all...
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  • yagottaloveyacurlsyagottaloveyacurls Posts: 5,766Registered Users
    Ok, WITHOUT knowing this woman's situation, the first thing that comes to mind is this is utter insanity.

    Again, I don't know the whole story, but I am shocked and actually a little dismayed at the fact the doctors would approve this.

    I wonder if maybe she tried to adopt and they refused her because of her age? That would be interesting to find out.

    ???
    bizarre.
    So many kids in this world...that need help.
    Why a 67 year old woman would have in-vitro is just beyond me.
    But then again, I really DON'T know the situation, so maybe I should just shut up.
  • x_tigerlilyx_tigerlily Posts: 432Registered Users
    Quite frankly, is a 70-80 year old woman capable of taking care of teenagers?
    3C/4A and too long to handle (and afford!)
  • Resume WriterResume Writer Posts: 645Registered Users
    Quite frankly, is a 70-80 year old woman capable of taking care of teenagers?

    I worry that the teenagers will be taking care of her.
  • DiscgirlDiscgirl Posts: 746Registered Users
    "???
    bizarre.
    So many kids in this world...that need help.
    Why a 67 year old woman would have in-vitro is just beyond me."

    Couldn't this exact same point be made for anyone "young or not so young" who becomes pregnant and decides to give birth or becomes pregnant through invitro or who decides to have "natural" children instead of adopting.?

    There are a ton of 16 yo who are probably doing the equivalent of taking care of or raising their 35 yo parents.

    No one who decides to become a parent knows what is going to happen to their lives after they have a child. I have a friend who's 35 SIL died of brain and (a second bout of) breast cancer. She left three children between the ages of 6 and 13.

    As far as plenty of children who need help, how does the argument that a 67 yo woman shouldn't give birth b/c she might not be around or might be extremely old at some point not also hold true?

    My mother has a friend who never married or had a child and decided at 50 or 50+ that she wanted to adopt. She tried desparately to adopt a child domestically and was repeatedly turned down b/c of her age (sometimes it was said and other times it was heavily implied). Finally, she wound up adopting a Russian girl from an orphanage.
  • KCLKCL Posts: 1,663Registered Users
    I am all for liberalism and it sounds really nice to defend this sort of thing.

    The reality is that a 10 year old should not have to be worried about the mortality of her mother or her mother's nursing home situation or any such thing and the hundreds of other reasons that human beings were not designed to mother offspring in our senior years.

    Yes, people die at all ages. Accidents and terrible diseases happen. Those are unexpected events that cannot be prevented.

    But making the conscious decision to have a child decades beyond what nature ever intended for any human female...when your chance of mortality is exponentially increased, your chance of not being able to care for this child even into her early childhood years, etc....is most assuredly irresponsible and certainly not an act designed with the child's best interest in mind.
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  • SpringcurlSpringcurl Posts: 8,002Registered Users
    If anything, she should think of how embarrassed her kids are going to be when they're 15 and their 82 year old mother shows up at school.

    Think of the children.

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  • quickcurlquickcurl Posts: 1,310Registered Users
    Personally, I feel bad for the children. I know what it's like to be faced with your parents' mortality at a fairly young age. I was in high school when my mother had her first heart attack, I was 22 when she almost died from an infection, 24 when my dad almost died from congestive heart failure....I could go on. Any way, they are now in their early 70s and I'm thankful that they are still alive and I've had 30+ years with them in my life. I have a chance of making the grandparents, my mother cried when I graduated from college and my dad has been able to see me have a successful career. Her children will not have that with her, and that's sad. She may not live to see them graduate from high school, let alone get married and have children of their own.
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  • MarMar Posts: 3,003Registered Users
    Honestly-I don't care.
    I just hope she has made provisions for thier care in case something happens(which,of course parents of ANY age should do)
    Being older doesn't make you a bad parent.My grandmother was sharp as a tack well into her 80's,and physically fit as well.
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  • fig jamfig jam Posts: 2,555Registered Users
    I'm with Mar; this just isn't one of the things I can get worked up about.

    Parents (young or old) who neglect their children, mistreat them, don't bother to train them how to be decent human beings -- THAT I can get excited about.

    No one knows how long they are going to live. All parents (as Mar said) should make provision for their children in case something happens to them.

    My dad died when I was five years old. He was 38. Go figure.
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  • KaiaKaia Posts: 8,815Registered Users
    Quite frankly, is a 70-80 year old woman capable of taking care of teenagers?
    In all honesty, is anyone capable of handling teenagers these days? I know plenty of parents in their 30's and 40's whose children run all over them. I stand by my belief that having children is a strictly personal decision and is none of anyone else's business. We know hardly anything about this woman, so what gives us the right to jump to conclusions and judge her for wanting to be a mother?
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  • shirleytemple13shirleytemple13 Posts: 328Registered Users
    Two words for you:

    egg. donor.

    Absolutely NO way those were her own eggs.
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  • AmnerisAmneris Posts: 15,117Registered Users
    This is shameful, with all the children in the world waiting to be adopted or fostered or mentored who need loving homes or the support of someone living in the west. It's too bad that this woman preferred to use an egg donor than help some existing children.
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  • ~Ghost Poster~~Ghost Poster~ Posts: 2,264Registered Users
    Quite frankly, is a 70-80 year old woman capable of taking care of teenagers?

    As the psychologically scarred adopted child of much older parents, I'm going to say not very likely.

    My parents were not psychologically, financially, or physically capable of dealing with two teenagers--even in their 60s, and, yes, we basically ran the household...and not very well, I might add. And just imagine how much more difficult teenagers will be in 15 years....
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  • RheannaRheanna Posts: 2,614Registered Users
    I can see both sides of this. I tend to agree with KCL and with Bailey422 almost equally.

    It isn't something I get worked up about at all, but it does strike me as being selfish, and let us get real - the chance of that woman dying before her kids are grown IS higher than the chance of a younger mom not living to see her kids grow up. It just is.
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  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    I know that there are some older folks who have to raise their grandkids and they do a great job. I also know there are young people who get cancer and leave their kids parentless. I just don't understand why someone who is 67 years old would seek out having a baby by IVF and egg donation. As Amneris said, adopt or foster a kid who needs a family.
    When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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  • yagottaloveyacurlsyagottaloveyacurls Posts: 5,766Registered Users
    mrspoppers wrote:
    I know that there are some older folks who have to raise their grandkids and they do a great job. I also know there are young people who get cancer and leave their kids parentless. I just don't understand why someone who is 67 years old would seek out having a baby by IVF and egg donation. As Amneris said, adopt or foster a kid who needs a family.

    Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
    I guess I just don't understand.
  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    Is this really any different than grandparents raising their grandkids because of deadbeat parents???
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  • yagottaloveyacurlsyagottaloveyacurls Posts: 5,766Registered Users
    FieryCurls wrote:
    Is this really any different than grandparents raising their grandkids because of deadbeat parents???


    What's different is one was a choice, the other was not.
  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    Mrspoppers, I didn't see that you had brought up my same question. I guess great minds do think alike!!!
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  • FieryCurlsFieryCurls Posts: 2,904Registered Users
    I agree that one was a choice and one wasn't, but it's still an older person raising kids.
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  • internetchickinternetchick Posts: 6,191Registered Users
    FieryCurls wrote:
    Is this really any different than grandparents raising their grandkids because of deadbeat parents???

    Yes it is. One is a clear choice to put kids in that situation, the other is rescuing kids from a bad home. Big difference imo.
  • mrspoppersmrspoppers Posts: 7,223Registered Users
    FieryCurls wrote:
    Is this really any different than grandparents raising their grandkids because of deadbeat parents???

    Yes it is. One is a clear choice to put kids in that situation, the other is rescuing kids from a bad home. Big difference imo.
    That's where I was going with it too.
    When are women going to face the fact that they don’t know their own bodies as well as men who have heard things?

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  • DiscgirlDiscgirl Posts: 746Registered Users
    People keep saying she is being selfish and that she should have adopted or fostered a kid. Once again, I'll ask: Why are young/younger people who choose to have a biological child, or infertile young/younger couples who can only have a child through medical intervention any less selfish for not adopting or fostering? Let's be honest, most people's genes aren't so extraordinary that the gene pool will be devastated by them not giving birth. Isn't it equally "selfish" to have a child on a planet that can hardly even support the population it has now?

    With regard to the "she should have adopted or fostered a kid" argument, how could she be an "acceptable age" for such an act if having a biological child at her age is "selfish" & wrong? Or is it that those children have to "settle" for what they can get regardless of how "shoddy" it is b/c they're orphans and/or in the foster care system?
  • fig jamfig jam Posts: 2,555Registered Users
    Amneris wrote:
    This is shameful, with all the children in the world waiting to be adopted or fostered or mentored who need loving homes or the support of someone living in the west. It's too bad that this woman preferred to use an egg donor than help some existing children.

    Be careful, there. It's not too far a logical leap to go from this statement to saying the same thing about any woman choosing to get pregnant rather than adopt/foster/mentor "some existing children" "who need loving homes or the support of someone living in the west."

    I really don't think you want or mean to say that, but you're standing on a slippery slope with THAT argument.
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