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Protein treatment?

moosegrl_86moosegrl_86 Posts: 403Registered Users
How can you tell when or if your hair needs a protein treatment? :confused:
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  • makeupvixenmakeupvixen Posts: 507Registered Users
    I just did a protein treatment on Tuesday because I was in desperate need of one. My hair felt like a bag of drying marshmallows, the edges were like cotton and ruff but the magority of my hair had a soft but stringy feel to it, and my ends had some breakage, just a lil. So it was time for me to really hit it hard with some protein.

    Did a dry protein session of Curl Junkie Repair Me, rinse, shampoo, deep condition and so on. My hair felt ok on Wednesday so I added some Oyin Honey Hemp Conditioner to it as a leave in (it has protein in it) and by thursday my hair was much better. So Friday (Today) I'm back to bunning and I used a shea butter blend on my bunned hair so I don't get breakage, oh and some JBCO on my scalp. By the time wash day is here on Sunday I know my hair will be all good. I just watch my hair closely after I do a protein treatment, ever since I had a bad reaction back in November I know to watch and listen to my hair.
  • pjjosephgisspjjosephgiss Posts: 643Registered Users
    I second what Makeup Vixen said. My hair feels mushy when it needs one, with less "snap back" when I stretch the curls. I love CJ repair me. Also, I have been using Cassia treatments every few weeks, and that seems to leave it very curly and strong. It can be drying though, so I am amending my regimen...
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  • makeupvixenmakeupvixen Posts: 507Registered Users
    I second what Makeup Vixen said. My hair feels mushy when it needs one, with less "snap back" when I stretch the curls. I love CJ repair me. Also, I have been using Cassia treatments every few weeks, and that seems to leave it very curly and strong. It can be drying though, so I am amending my regimen...

    See, now you about to open another can of worms for me... I thought Henna was the protein herb and Cassia was a conditioning herb??? I get so confused with these herbs, so I just buy some GBP or Curl Junkie Repair Me, no confusion there, lol.
  • shortie18shortie18 Posts: 41Registered Users
    I second what Makeup Vixen said. My hair feels mushy when it needs one, with less "snap back" when I stretch the curls. I love CJ repair me. Also, I have been using Cassia treatments every few weeks, and that seems to leave it very curly and strong. It can be drying though, so I am amending my regimen...

    See, now you about to open another can of worms for me... I thought Henna was the protein herb and Cassia was a conditioning herb??? I get so confused with these herbs, so I just buy some GBP or Curl Junkie Repair Me, no confusion there, lol.

    I think henna and cassia are the same as far as what they do for the hair but cassia doesn't give you any color...btw which conditioner is has more protein the gpb or the repair me? My hair loves protein!
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  • makeupvixenmakeupvixen Posts: 507Registered Users
    shortie18 wrote: »
    I second what Makeup Vixen said. My hair feels mushy when it needs one, with less "snap back" when I stretch the curls. I love CJ repair me. Also, I have been using Cassia treatments every few weeks, and that seems to leave it very curly and strong. It can be drying though, so I am amending my regimen...

    See, now you about to open another can of worms for me... I thought Henna was the protein herb and Cassia was a conditioning herb??? I get so confused with these herbs, so I just buy some GBP or Curl Junkie Repair Me, no confusion there, lol.

    I think henna and cassia are the same as far as what they do for the hair but cassia doesn't give you any color...btw which conditioner is has more protein the gpb or the repair me? My hair loves protein!

    I don't know which is stronger but I can only take the Repair Me in small doses, it's too strong for my hair but Boy does it get the job done. At one point I thought I was allergic but after trying it different ways and talking to Marsha the owner I found out I'm not allergic to it, it's just strong for me. GPB on the other hand I have never had a problem with and I like it. I also just used the CJ Beauticurls Strengthner as well and OMG I LOVE IT! The amount of protein in it is just the perfect amount for me. In fact Elle just uploaded a video on it, and she took the words right out of my mouth, I love it.
  • shortie18shortie18 Posts: 41Registered Users
    Thanks girl...I'm off to yt to watch elle's vid riiiiiiight now!
    4a/low porosity, :angel1:protein & ayurvedic herbs
    Finicky w/shea butter base products ie SM Leave In(Original)
    HG Poo: Komaza Moja
    HG spray leave in: Taliah Waajid Medicated PMB, NU GRO spray w/moisturizer
    HG Moisturizer:QB AOHC
    Loving @ the moment:YTCu,GVP CB,DM SB and Shine Magic, EcoK and pink, AVG, JC N&S, ORS Lock & Twist Gel, SM PM and DTM, HV Almond Glaze and Cocasta Oil


    Komaza Referral Code:458XZUHK
    Curls Referral Code:REF-P0VZELT9
  • triple_spiraltriple_spiral Posts: 249Registered Users
    About a week ago I was pretty sure I was overconditioned....hair was veryveryveeerrryyy soft and had a "barely there" feeling to it. I lost definition and had just a lot of fluff for hair. When I did pull on the curls I had, they didn't spring back into place, just hung limply to where I had pulled them. My hair started getting shapeless and weird.

    I looked around for a cheap protein treatment but did not find one.....on the ground there were a few for over 20 $, and then the online treatments which sound great but too expensive for me. I ended up beating two eggs, adding a bunch of Tresseme Naturals Moiturizing conditioner, and whipping that together. I added a dash of honey as an afterthought. I don't normally (well, ever) mix stuff together like that, and I never put foodstuff in my hair either, but I was getting desperate. I applied on my dry hair, waited half an hr, and then rinsed in the shower.

    It made my hair realllyyy tangled, but once I got over that my hair has been great all week.....curls/coils/definition are back, boingy-ness is back :happy7: I have also heard good things about using yogurt for protein treatment but haven't tried it
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  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    Eh. I just use the aphogee one every two/ two and a half months and follow up with a deep conditioning treatment so I don't get protein overload or anything. I've heard so much crap about aphogee though that I kind of want to try a new one...
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  • kaybkayb Posts: 5,054Registered Users
    I protein treat when my hair starts to break, careless, I know. I was doing henna over winter but stopped when it started to get warmer. Couple weeks ago I noticed my hair breaking when I took down my twists/fluffed/ touched it while out. It was the tiny ones too. I went into overdrive and protein treated three weeks in a row. No breakage. Think ill do it every two weeks or a least once a month.
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  • PRINCETONPRINCETON Posts: 872Registered Users
    How can you tell when or if your hair needs a protein treatment? :confused:

    If your hair is brutally damaged from overprocessing, coloring, bleaching, heat damage etc.

    Otherwise don't use a protein repair just because your styles are not popping off right.

    Chances are you're getting enough protein from your conditioner or styling products as is; however, you can also do a protein treatment right before getting braids or any other style where you need the hair to be stronger because some styles can be damaging.

    Always do a moisturizing deep conditioner after a protein treatment.

    If your hair is breaking at the root then protein will not help. Consider drinking more water, less coffee and less alcohol. If you are experiencing a load of breakage then it might not be protein that you need but the styling products or regiment you use are just not good for you.

    Always consider cutting down on product use and going back to basics before considering doing any treatments.

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  • moosegrl_86moosegrl_86 Posts: 403Registered Users
    PRINCETON wrote: »
    How can you tell when or if your hair needs a protein treatment? :confused:

    If your hair is brutally damaged from overprocessing, coloring, bleaching, heat damage etc.

    Otherwise don't use a protein repair just because your styles are not popping off right.

    Chances are you're getting enough protein from your conditioner or styling products as is; however, you can also do a protein treatment right before getting braids or any other style where you need the hair to be stronger because some styles can be damaging.

    Always do a moisturizing deep conditioner after a protein treatment.

    If your hair is breaking at the root then protein will not help. Consider drinking more water, less coffee and less alcohol. If you are experiencing a load of breakage then it might not be protein that you need but the styling products or regiment you use are just not good for you.

    Always consider cutting down on product use and going back to basics before considering doing any treatments.

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    None of the products I currently use have protein. I don't have any of the issues you mentioned. I just noticed my hair is a bit weak from all of the twisting I've been doing. I have a few midstrand splits and my hair is a bit brittle, so I thought I may need one. I used to have products with a bit of wheat protein but I haven't used them since last year. I deep condition for an hour each week. It hasn't helped much.
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  • Jelly.ViJelly.Vi Posts: 103Registered Users
    None of the products I currently use have protein. I don't have any of the issues you mentioned. I just noticed my hair is a bit weak from all of the twisting I've been doing. I have a few midstrand splits and my hair is a bit brittle, so I thought I may need one. I used to have products with a bit of wheat protein but I haven't used them since last year. I deep condition for an hour each week. It hasn't helped much.

    I think you should do some light protein.
    Since none of your products dont contain protein, and you DT, maybe your hair will appreciate the little oomph from a PT. I reccommend ion effective care. Although its very thick, it works as a light PT. It really helped my hair curl from the root, and with elasticity so they 'bounce back' even while soaked. It also feels stronger and more substancial after doing this treatment, and my hair doesnt 'fall apart' if i run my hands through a curl. A lot of people say its more of a DT, but it does contain protein. I feel it gives small 'shots'. Therefore if you feel it does your hair good, you can keep doing it, but if your hair doesnt like it, or you use it too many times in a row, it wont be like if you 'over protein' your hair with a hardcore treatment. HTH goodluck (:
  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    I am one of those people whose hair can get overconditioned or "mushy" but since I started using conditioners and stylers with protein, I find I don't have the problem as much. And I totally agree with always do a moisture dc afterwards or believe me you'll have problems.
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  • NoodleNapsNoodleNaps Posts: 463Registered Users
    kayb wrote: »
    I protein treat when my hair starts to break, careless, I know. I was doing henna over winter but stopped when it started to get warmer. Couple weeks ago I noticed my hair breaking when I took down my twists/fluffed/ touched it while out. It was the tiny ones too. I went into overdrive and protein treated three weeks in a row. No breakage. Think ill do it every two weeks or a least once a month.

    I am exactly the same. I have some dry-a$$ hair that can never be over-moisturised, but as I never got that 'mushy' feel, I never realised I needed protein. I went through a stage when my hair was just overly brittle, breaking off every time I touched it, and I was getting mid-strand splits, but because it was so dry I assumed I needed more moisture so up my DC-ing and it got worse. It was only then that I realised I needed to do a PT, and it improved almost immediately. Now I try to do one every month, but sometimes forget and don't remember I need another one until the breakage starts again :-?
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